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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 03:37 PM
Online satellite maps


This just ROCKS. Google has just released an update to their (already top-notch) online mapping service, to include an option of seeing the satellite image of where you are on the map.

I was poking around Baja-way... and thought many of you would want to also. Example attached is of downtown El Rosario, including the Baja Cactus facility.

Look for the link in the top-right that says "Satellite":
http://maps.google.com




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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 03:48 PM


this is to cool thanks Doug:bounce:



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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 04:10 PM


I've sized both of these down - both in resolution and file size. This is the La Paz area. btw.. you might need to search for San Diego, then scroll down (you can drag the map image).



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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 04:32 PM


Thanks Doug!! This is Way Cool !!!!

Here's Sierra de San Francisco and Green Canon San Pablo cuttin through:


http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.813877,-117.245568&spn...

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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 04:36 PM


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Thanks Doug!! This is Way Cool !!!!

Here's Sierra de San Francisco and Green Canon San Pablo cuttin through:

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=32.813877,-117.245568&spn...


I think that link is where you started from... on the south side of Mt. Soledad in San Diego....

I was scrolling through the Sierra San Francisco too... :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 04:39 PM


Yep, sorry, I was emailing the link to a friend, and coy & paste the wrong one. It's been corrected, copy and paste, cuz the hyperlink is not complete and wont ork if you just click on it.



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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 08:14 PM


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That's a good link. Thank you. Being a "map nut" I'm always looking for new material. One download that I like is http://www.keyhole.com

To get the full effect for Keyhole, though, you have to change your screen definition to 1024 X 768 pixels, and on many monitors that pulls the print down to a level some persons don't like.

I took a good look at many of the maps on the Google site and though the watermark says ?2005 the maps are several years prior--not that that makes much difference when looking at Baja.

I zeroed on the Punta Bufeo - Gonzaga area and tried to get in close but was given the "Sorry but we don't have imagery... ." Rats! I was hoping to get "Up Close and Personal." :lol:

On second thought, maybe that's not all bad. :bounce:




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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 08:31 PM


does a higher screen reso give more detail? or lower? as for seeing a vehicle on the road i can't, even zoomed in all the way. maybe i need to play around somemore. but it is cool. seems there are surfers at google maps, because alot of cool places aren't available. not a bad thing, i guess.



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[*] posted on 4-5-2005 at 11:09 PM


Doug, that's really great. Thanks!

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[*] posted on 4-6-2005 at 09:32 AM


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...One download that I like is http://www.keyhole.com

To get the full effect for Keyhole, though, you have to change your screen definition to 1024 X 768 pixels, and on many monitors that pulls the print down to a level some persons don't like.

I took a good look at many of the maps on the Google site and though the watermark says ?2005 the maps are several years prior--not that that makes much difference when looking at Baja.


Google acquired Keyhole about 6 months ago, and that is the technology they've used to offer this new service. Apparently maps are 6 to 12 months old (I don't know if that applies to the Mexico images as well):

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050406/google_maps.html

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[*] posted on 4-7-2005 at 09:08 AM
Laptop Resolution


I run my laptop at 1280x1024 and have no problems seeing the details on the maps.

However the problem of using it on the road is that wireless AirCards don't work on the Baja yet, and even Datastorm becomes useless in the Baja Sur.




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[*] posted on 4-7-2005 at 05:05 PM


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Imagine how handy it would be to have one of bajabus' satellite hookups out on the road.

When you get a little puzzled/curious which fork to take, just pull down the image and have a look.

I wonder what kind of resolution would be possible to have with a portable laptop?


I don't know what satellite hookup bajabus has. I use Motosat Datastorm with a Toshiba Satellite laptop, and, indeed, recently I took a look at a section of Baja not far from us to see where the different "forks" led. Resolution in that part of the world is not too good yet.

turtleandtoad, we're in touch with other Datastorm Users in Baja Sur, you just have to make sure you're using the Mex7 Satellite. The Galaxy up north doesn't have a footprint that reaches that far. In the summer when we head north to trout waters, we'll switch to Galaxy.

In fact User #1165 is in La Paz right now and across the Sea of Cortez and further south is User #994.

In addition, I've been having fun with these maps while following our son-in-law and his teammate racing KTMs in the Tunisian Rally. Too bad I can't see them 'live'.:yes:




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[*] posted on 4-7-2005 at 05:29 PM
Datastorm


Now you tell me! :o

I was going to buy a Datastorm while at Quartzsite in January, before my trip to Baja Sur, but was told by the sales people (in two different booths) that it wouldn't work that far south and west. So I didn't buy it.

No one even mentioned the Mexico 7 satellite. Bummer!:fire:




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[*] posted on 4-7-2005 at 08:57 PM


Off-Road.com started using the Datastorm in the fall of 2002 and successfully transmitted photos, copy and video from all over Baja as far south as LaPaz during the 2002 Baja 1000.

We found the unit to be delicate going through a number of replacement units. I have heard that the newest likthe one Bufeo has is much more refined and rugged.

Throughput is fair, a lot like a jammed up cable modem.




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[*] posted on 4-7-2005 at 09:11 PM


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I bought mine at Satellite Advantage in Quartzite, Paul Angerami, owner. Good guy, knowledgable, and extremely helpful when my first rig seized on me--during the SCORE San Felipe 250--I might add. :fire:

Motosat made good, though, put a whole new outfit on top of our truck, and they're still sure that it will endure the travel on our road to Pta Bufeo.

We'll see. Heading back down on Monday now that taxes are done.




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[*] posted on 4-9-2005 at 10:15 AM
Arroyo El Volcan


Here is the road coming from El Marmol (on the left), crosses Arroyo el Volcan, and passes the white mineralized slope of tiny springs, as seen below

http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=29.997375,-114.767261&spn...
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[*] posted on 4-9-2005 at 10:26 AM
El Volcan Onyx Dome


In the center, the round white area in the arroyo... this is just south of the place where the road from El Marmol crosses the arroyo (in above photo)


El Volcan

On the page that comes up with the image, click: 'Link to This Page' and the image gets bigger. If you scroll to a new site, and want to save it... just hit Link to This Page again, and the URL in your browser will be the right one. Paste that into Baja Nomad's links feature (the globe with the chain in front) to add more Baja places to this thread's list.

Here is the dome from the ground:


Also in the satellite image, you can see the pool of water north of the dome...





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[*] posted on 4-9-2005 at 10:57 AM


Yeah, but can you get close enough to find the Topes?:lol:

When I try to zoom in on the Playa Requeson area it says that it can't do it. Bummer.




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[*] posted on 4-9-2005 at 03:15 PM


It's Satmex 5 that has coverage all the way down to the tip on a direcway unit, NOT satmex 7.

Only datastorm users can request satellite changes depending on which part of the country you are traveling. You are allowed 1 free per year and then it's $50 each after that.

Tripod mounted DW users don't have that option unless they bought from a very good dealer that is willing to go to bat for you and at most they will do it once with some sort of excuse like my neighbor built a barn and now my line of sight is blocked. This is because Tripod DW users are not really supposed to be moving their systems and they are supposed to be fixed.

Starband tripod systems are authorized to be mobile. If you use Starband you won't have to worry about which sat you are assigned to. You will be put on IA-7 which offers coverage in all of the USA a good way into mainland Mexico, Down to Mulege on the Baja peninsula and about 50 - 100 miles into Canada with the standard antenna.
Take a look at the Ku band footprint here:

http://www.geo-orbit.org/westhemipgs/ft7p.html

The standard antenna will give you INTERNET connectivity just about anywhere within the 44 db line. A .98 meter antenna will take you out to the 42 db line and a 1.2 meter will pretty much keep you connected anywhere within the 40 db line. Now take all of this with a grain of salt since the map is meant to give you a general idea. It kinda reads just like a topo map especially where the lines are close together. At these points the cliff effect comes into play and the signal will drop off very rapidly. As you approach the outer limits of your antennas performance in a particular location you will notice that at night you will stay connected fine but as soon as 10AM to about 6 PM roll around you will get disconnected because your signal will not be strong enough to over come the background solar noise.

A tripod unit with a .98 meter antenna will take you all over Baja. It will run you well under $1,400 with the .98mt. as opposed to about $5,000 (installed) for the auto pointing Datastorm units.

Tripod units take about 30 mins to set up and come with 50 -100 ft of cable so you don't have to worry about parking under trees and not having LOS with your motor home automatic unit since you can spool out cable and put the tripos where it has LOS and your vehicle in the shade.

Auto pointing units are very convenient in that you just push a button and 5-10 mins later are online.




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[*] posted on 5-15-2005 at 11:26 AM
these are incredible, David. Thank you !!!!!


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