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SFandH
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Thanks. At the beginning of Article 27 (using google translate):
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In terms of the Federal Taxpayer Registry, the following will apply:
A. Subjects and their specific obligations:
I. Individuals and legal entities are required to comply with sections I, II, III and IV of section B of this article, provided that:
a) They must present periodic declarations, or
b) They are obliged to issue digital tax receipts online for the acts or activities they carry out or for the income they receive.
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It sounds to me that not everyone is required to comply. Am I missing something?
https://leyes-mx.com/codigo_fiscal_de_la_federacion/27.htm
[Edited on 5-25-2022 by SFandH]
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keep reading - anyone with a bank account must register
most expats have an account in Mexico
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we will see how this works as no one in my town knows about this. Nor is going to Ensenada to get in line. So what happens if they dont do it.?
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Quote: Originally posted by bajatrailrider  | | we will see how this works as no one in my town knows about this. Nor is going to Ensenada to get in line. So what happens if they dont do it.?
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CFE announced that if you don't provide an RFC they will not ba able to bill you - meaning they they will cut you off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H10dldg_r20&t=42s
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So since you can buy property on a fedocomiso with a tourist visa and tourist visas don't have CURP numbers, how do you get any of these now required
documents?
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | | So since you can buy property on a fedocomiso with a tourist visa and tourist visas don't have CURP numbers, how do you get any of these now required
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I think you know the answer, get a resident visa.
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Thanks 4x4abc for the posts and replies. I'm convinced.
People are going to revolt if CFE cuts off the juice because of the new rules. It's hard to believe that will happen.
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| Quote: Originally posted by akmaxx | Gracias Harald...
To clarify a little further - since you had a biz RFC they were able to identify you with just your RP card and then issue you a personal RFC?
And the biometrics collection (per internet explaination) never happened?
Since they are only collecting cards and issuing personal RFC's do you think it would possible to let someone stand in line for me with my ID? You
didn't sign anything or give fingerprints/fotos and I have biz rfc already.
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no biometrics needed
the standing in line was for the Constancia
if you ever had an in office Hacienda interaction (Fideicomiso, taxes, questions) you are in the system, even if you don't have an RFC - then they can
issue the Constancia paper.
That's what you stand in line for.
If you have a business RFC (like I do), then they know who you are and only your residency card will do and they'll issue the Constancia.
I they don't know you, if you have never interacted with Hacienda - you will have to go through the complicated online process of getting the RFC. It
might involve an appointment in person in the Hacienda office - I did not read that far since I did not need it.
Mexico ranks 60 on the worldwide scale of how easy/difficult it is to deal with government (US ranks 6th). You need a lot of sunshine and Margaritas
to balance your rage over plain bloated incompetence.
Recently it is the IT geeks in CDMX who make your life hell.
Fingerprints, token, funny symbols to decipher, password, Grandmother's maiden name, your favorite politician etc
Like all geeks the thinking is "There is this new thing - let's add it."
One reason Amazon is so successful is that they found that increased security measures pee potential clients off.
So, they keep it at a minimum and cover all possible fraud for you.
Happy customers buy more.
Not so in Mexico (except MercadoLibre) - roadblock after roadblock.
And when you are almost finished the site crashes.
There is a reason why 3rd world is 3rd world.
Once you decide to live here it is "take it or leave it"
At least you can send your kids to school without worrying all day
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never happen in my town turn off power as whole town dark at night. Lets see after June what happens. Most here have no driver lic or ID have not even
pd property tax 20 years.
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yet another take on it....just passing it along.
https://www.mexprofessionals.com/post/which-expats-need-an-r...
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
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good read up thank you
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| Quote: Originally posted by akmaxx | I am misunderstanding something - you need Constancia (easy with biz RFC) and you need personal RFC - Did you receive personal RFC or do you only have
biz RFC?
Ideally I'd like to stand on sidewalk and present my RP then they see that I have biz RFC when they look me up inside and they come back with
Constancia and personal RFC.
Does that sound likely?
Muchisimas gracias,
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I handed out my RP and got back the Constancia paper with a bunch of different numbers
they assigned me an RFC in the process and filled it in
only had biz RFC before
so yes, if you have a biz RFC go to Hacienda, stand in line early, 7:30, hand out RP, 8:10, get back RP and receive Constancia paper, 8:40
just like the image below
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It takes about 3 months to get an appointment in Mexicali to get an RFC number.
And contrary to the previous report, some folks are having an agent get the RFC for them.
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| Quote: Originally posted by PaulW | It takes about 3 months to get an appointment in Mexicali to get an RFC number.
And contrary to the previous report, some folks are having an agent get the RFC for them. |
sure, same here in La Paz, facilitators will get you the RFC for $100 in a day or two
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I started my mex corporation in the mid 2000's
accountant told me to go to Hacienda and get an RFC
I went
Hacienda told me, they can only issue one with updated immigration status (permanent vs temporary residency)
so I went to immigration to get the FM3
INM now told me, they can only issue one when I can present an RFC
catch 22
I told a friend about my predicament
he advised - never do those things alone
use a facilitator
I called one and was warned that it would be $60 US per hour for their services
Wow! - but I took the risk
I had both papers in hand in less than an hour
impossible had turned into "right away"
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Here is a link to the most coherent explanation of what this is all about and details and some solutions to the problems created.
https://en.equilibrium.mx/post/rfc-registration-obligation
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After reading some of the comments above, I am reminded that some people should stay nob. Mexico is a different country fortunately!
[Edited on 5-26-2022 by Bajaboy]
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SFandH
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Interesting article. Thanks for the post.
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Awkward that some Nomads post personal abuse against general information gathering, and worse that the admins here support the abuse. Very
problematic. Possibly criminal.
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bottom line is this:
when service providers like CFE require your Constancia and you don't have it
when you buy something big like a car and you can't provide a Constancia
will the entity accept the generic RFC or do they want the Constancia
if they do, you can interpret the new law any which way you like
those entities will not provide services (CFE) or sell you anything
you'll sit in the dark until you get the papers even though you think you shouldn't
since nothing in Mexico moves fast, I decided to be proactive and get that little paper just in case now that it is easy and fast
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