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2 Actors killed in crash south of Santa Rosalia
https://news.yahoo.com/two-actors-netflix-series-chosen-0036...
Sat, June 18, 2022, 7:36 PM·1 min read
(Reuters) - Two actors from the Netflix's original series "The Chosen One" were killed and six people injured in a road accident on Mexico's Baja
California Sur peninsula, the Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday.
Actors Raymundo Gurdano and Juan Francisco Aguilar died in the accident on Thursday, the report https://on.wsj.com/3bbvb9H said citing the company.
"The Chosen One" is a Brazilian thriller series first launched in 2019, based on a comic book series 'American Jesus'.
Netflix did not immediately respond to Reuters' request for comment.
(Reporting by Jaiveer Singh Shekhawat in Bengaluru; Editing by Daniel Wallis)
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Very sad. I wonder what happened? Tire blow out? Missed curve?
I have never heard of the series, has anyone watched it?
RIP QEPD
Tidiana (Mom of 7 from La Bocana) was at the Santa Rosalia hospital the same day with chest pain. They sent her home, saying they could not help her
and wd set up an appt, with a cardiologist in La Paz.
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From the pics, the crash looked survivable. Wonder if the victims were not wearing seat belts?
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I only saw one picture. A van on it's side. You couldn't tell any real damage from that angle.
I bet they weren't wearing seat belts.
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mexico.....
“This is a plea for justice for these deaths,” said friend and novelist Rick Zazueta via Facebook. “This was no ordinary accident, the cast had
been complaining openly about the logistical and transport issues faced in this production, calling it illogical, unreasonable, ignorant, and stupid.
The conditions of the van were completely unfit for the purpose of transporting people; worn out tires, noisy brakes, loose steering wheel, not all
seat belts worked, easily identifiable signs of danger. But, the show must go on, and the actors get wrapped up in the artform and want to work, and
don’t get as many opportunities to work, so they take these gigs with big dreams of Netflix and the promise of a small paycheck.”
Production was temporarily paused following the accident.
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"If" what that guy said is true. I would guess:
A) Corporate discipline for those who didn't listen and put them in an unsafe work environment. Including termination.
B) Monetary compensation for their families.
C) A change in culture for the specific Netflix group that was involved. Which is possibly a separate Netflix entity.
Let's let the facts play out first though.
I have a good friend who is writer for Netflix here in LA. It's a good company overall. They are struggling to grow, however, due to all the new
streaming services that have popped up in the last three years.
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chit happens.
You gonna get angry and sue?
You need to get over it, move on.
P.s. when the van is a piece of chit, slow down! If your driver is on meth, you should get off and take an Uber.
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Wrong van, location, accident, etc. fyi
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/12-people-die-mexico-...
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Rick Zazueta
June 18, 2022
Open Letter to Variety Magazine.
BACKWARDS MURDER - Tragedy strikes at NETFLIX production “American Jesus” in Baja California Sur. Paco Mufote and Ray Garduño, Two of the most
beloved, well respected, and talented regional actors are dead because of a car accident on Baja California’s infamous Highway 1. This is a plea for
justice for these deaths. This was no ordinary accident, the cast had been complaining openly about the logistical and transport issues faced in this
production, calling it illogical, unreasonable, ignorant, and stupid. The conditions of the van were completely unfit for the purpose of transporting
people; worn out tires, noisy brakes, loose steering wheel, not all seat belts worked, easily identifiable signs of danger. But, the show must go on,
and the actors get wrapped up in the artform and want to work, and don't get as many opportunities to work, so they take these gigs with big dreams of
NETFLIX and the promise of a small paycheck.
Producer Stacy Perskie and director Everardo Gout are directly to blame as other Hollywood actors have mentioned they were on a campaign to recruit
the best talent and offering less than a third of the minimum standard. Naturally most declined, so they headed south of the border and recruited
local, hard working talent for even less. Baja California is a wild land from a geographical position. The main filming locations were between Santa
Rosalia and San Ignacio 230 miles away from each other, and as anybody who has traversed the peninsula knows, these 230 miles seem like a straight,
but it is a pronounced and difficult drive. Please be patient as I give you context; Baja California is home to the most aggressive off-road races on
the planet for a reason. Companies and race teams invest millions of dollars each year figuring out the logistical elements between locations, Perskie
and Gout’s production treated it as if these were first world highways.
The nearest commercial airport is Loreto which is another 125 miles from Santa Rosalia. The two airports that follow are La Paz at 350 miles from
Santa Rosalia and Tijuana at 600 miles. These are the points of interest in this production. Imagine moving people at a whim without experienced local
knowledge of the area. It's disrespectful to the land, it’s disrespectful to the people working, and it's a disgrace for the film industry as a
whole. Everybody knew something was seriously wrong with logistics and transport there was talk all over set and beyond- Not only the actors, but the
crew, and especially Perskie and Gout knew this was a problem, but they were cheap and selfish, and their selfishness cost Paco Mufote and Ray
Garduño their lives.
Overworked drivers + the distance between locations + quality of the vans = two lives. That is a lot of blood to pay for somebody else's negligence.
NETFLIX’s role on this is important because they are the ones whose name is attached to the production, and sure because of contemporary mechanisms
of executive production and different companies, they will likely attempt to wash their hands and abandon Perskie and Gout, but we all know that
without the promise of a NETFLIX program, there is no show, no money, no nothing. So either NETFLIX didn’t do its due diligence regarding safety and
proper production protocols or Perskie and Gout cooked the books to pocket money. The third possibility is a frightening one; NETFLIX doesn't care.
Which raises the question - is NETFLIX the audiovisual DeBeers buying the blood diamond of American Jesus?
So many questions that we will not allow to go unanswered. Where are the insurance companies? Why did they ask the casting director to call the
families of the deceased? why are there no protocols for tragedy, better yet, why were there no protocols to avoid them. Let’s get eyes on the
contracts that were signed between Perskie and Gout’s production company RedRum (Murder backwards, because apparently it’s all a joke) and Paco
Mufote and Ray Garduño. I’m willing to bet that these contracts are the real joke if they were studied by professional labor lawyers. What about
the contract that NETFLIX has with Perskie and Gout’s murder-backwards company? Could we see those? I bet those would not be as funny.
ANDA is the Union of Working Actors in Mexico - Are they going to speak for the deceased? Does ANDA matter? Did Perskie and Gout sign a contract with
ANDA? What about the Baja California Sur Film Commission? What kind of permits did they approve? They sure were talking about the greatness of having
this production in their state, did they send an investigator to talk to the cast and crew that was working? Or do they simply publish a badly worded
little post with the Secretary of Tourisms seal? Could NETFLIX or anybody issue a statement at least.
We need to know what’s going on, we are hungry for the truth. Beyond the backwards murder company of Perskie and Gout and regardless if they ever
work again or are allowed to be near a film set -this is an outrage! There needs to be justice, there needs to be people in prison and those people
have a first and last name; Stacy Perskie and Everardo Gout.
Pacote Mufote and Ray Garduño deserve more than our respects, they deserve a commitment to justice.
https://www.facebook.com/rick.zazueta/posts/7446828845387615
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https://www.tvinsider.com/1049045/the-chosen-one-netflix-dea...
https://twitter.com/BCGobierno/status/1537847744554885120
https://twitter.com/ZETATijuana/status/1537655066731155458
[Edited on 6-21-2022 by BajaNomad]
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Filming in Mexico is something I know a little about. This road is one I have driven many times. That said, I know nothing about this particular
tragedy.
It is difficult to tell much from one picture past the van left the road and rolled several times plus it seems several passengers were ejected from
it. The van seems not to have many air bags, suggesting it might be older. My experience riding in crew transport vans both in Mexico and the US is
that some passengers didn’t wear seat belts and some did. Personally I did and tried to always sit in the front right seat.
In 40 years of working around the world on location shoots I (thankfully) was never personally involved in a serious accident or equipment failure.
Transport accidents in general were not very common. My experience was that most of the equipment was well enough maintained and the drivers were
generally competent. In Mexico it was not uncommon for a transport driver to drive a van he supplied. This was true even on large projects. Some
drivers were replaced because of complaints by the riders, usually very quickly.
Transport drivers do work long hours as they bring the crew to and from the set outside of crew call. Long shoot days require even longer hours for
the drivers. Accidents caused by fatigue are a problem in the US as well.
The road in question between San Ignacio and Loreto is generally the narrow no shoulder type of 2 lane road common in all of Baja. Currently the road
between San Ignacio and Santa Rosalia is the section most in need of repair (opinion)! That said repairs are ongoing and 6 weeks ago I remember there
being repaving with traffic brakes north of Loreto! The commercial truck traffic is also heavy at times (most times)! Livestock on the road is a fact
of life. Driving this road requires undivided attention!
Those demanding charges be brought might want to wait until some of the information about this tragedy is collected and released. It’s obvious that
those “in charge” are responsible but responsible for what remains to be determined.
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | Filming in Mexico is something I know a little about. This road is one I have driven many times. That said, I know nothing about this particular
tragedy.
It is difficult to tell much from one picture past the van left the road and rolled several times plus it seems several passengers were ejected from
it. The van seems not to have many air bags, suggesting it might be older. My experience riding in crew transport vans both in Mexico and the US is
that some passengers didn’t wear seat belts and some did. Personally I did and tried to always sit in the front right seat.
In 40 years of working around the world on location shoots I (thankfully) was never personally involved in a serious accident or equipment failure.
Transport accidents in general were not very common. My experience was that most of the equipment was well enough maintained and the drivers were
generally competent. In Mexico it was not uncommon for a transport driver to drive a van he supplied. This was true even on large projects. Some
drivers were replaced because of complaints by the riders, usually very quickly.
Transport drivers do work long hours as they bring the crew to and from the set outside of crew call. Long shoot days require even longer hours for
the drivers. Accidents caused by fatigue are a problem in the US as well.
The road in question between San Ignacio and Loreto is generally the narrow no shoulder type of 2 lane road common in all of Baja. Currently the road
between San Ignacio and Santa Rosalia is the section most in need of repair (opinion)! That said repairs are ongoing and 6 weeks ago I remember there
being repaving with traffic brakes north of Loreto! The commercial truck traffic is also heavy at times (most times)! Livestock on the road is a fact
of life. Driving this road requires undivided attention!
Those demanding charges be brought might want to wait until some of the information about this tragedy is collected and released. It’s obvious that
those “in charge” are responsible but responsible for what remains to be determined.
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Sometimes the transport “unions” force businesses to use certain transporters (typically prevent outsiders from operating on their turf).
If transporters are working long hours or providing chitty old/unsafe vans, they should be fired.
And if customers are not wearing seat belts, then the customers are just stupid.
I see people frequently not wear seat belts on vans and particularly busses. Busses crash just like vans and sedans. People are often really stupid.
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Maybe the driver was forced off the road and the condition of the van has nothing to do with the accident. Did anybody survive?
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Yes, most of the passengers survived.
Goat,
You know nothing about Mexican Unions! You also know nothing about this accident!
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Rick Zazueta
June 18, 2022
Open Letter to Variety Magazine.
BACKWARDS MURDER - Tragedy strikes at NETFLIX production “American Jesus” in Baja California Sur. Paco Mufote and Ray Garduño, Two of the most
beloved, well respected, and talented regional actors are dead because of a car accident on Baja California’s infamous Highway 1. This is a plea for
justice for these deaths. This was no ordinary accident, the cast had been complaining openly about the logistical and transport issues faced in this
production, calling it illogical, unreasonable, ignorant, and stupid. The conditions of the van were completely unfit for the purpose of transporting
people; worn out tires, noisy brakes, loose steering wheel, not all seat belts worked, easily identifiable signs of danger. But, the show must go on,
and the actors get wrapped up in the artform and want to work, and don't get as many opportunities to work, so they take these gigs with big dreams of
NETFLIX and the promise of a small paycheck.
Producer Stacy Perskie and director Everardo Gout are directly to blame as other Hollywood actors have mentioned they were on a campaign to recruit
the best talent and offering less than a third of the minimum standard. Naturally most declined, so they headed south of the border and recruited
local, hard working talent for even less. Baja California is a wild land from a geographical position. The main filming locations were between Santa
Rosalia and San Ignacio 230 miles away from each other, and as anybody who has traversed the peninsula knows, these 230 miles seem like a straight,
but it is a pronounced and difficult drive. Please be patient as I give you context; Baja California is home to the most aggressive off-road races on
the planet for a reason. Companies and race teams invest millions of dollars each year figuring out the logistical elements between locations, Perskie
and Gout’s production treated it as if these were first world highways.
The nearest commercial airport is Loreto which is another 125 miles from Santa Rosalia. The two airports that follow are La Paz at 350 miles from
Santa Rosalia and Tijuana at 600 miles. These are the points of interest in this production. Imagine moving people at a whim without experienced local
knowledge of the area. It's disrespectful to the land, it’s disrespectful to the people working, and it's a disgrace for the film industry as a
whole. Everybody knew something was seriously wrong with logistics and transport there was talk all over set and beyond- Not only the actors, but the
crew, and especially Perskie and Gout knew this was a problem, but they were cheap and selfish, and their selfishness cost Paco Mufote and Ray
Garduño their lives.
Overworked drivers + the distance between locations + quality of the vans = two lives. That is a lot of blood to pay for somebody else's negligence.
NETFLIX’s role on this is important because they are the ones whose name is attached to the production, and sure because of contemporary mechanisms
of executive production and different companies, they will likely attempt to wash their hands and abandon Perskie and Gout, but we all know that
without the promise of a NETFLIX program, there is no show, no money, no nothing. So either NETFLIX didn’t do its due diligence regarding safety and
proper production protocols or Perskie and Gout cooked the books to pocket money. The third possibility is a frightening one; NETFLIX doesn't care.
Which raises the question - is NETFLIX the audiovisual DeBeers buying the blood diamond of American Jesus?
So many questions that we will not allow to go unanswered. Where are the insurance companies? Why did they ask the casting director to call the
families of the deceased? why are there no protocols for tragedy, better yet, why were there no protocols to avoid them. Let’s get eyes on the
contracts that were signed between Perskie and Gout’s production company RedRum (Murder backwards, because apparently it’s all a joke) and Paco
Mufote and Ray Garduño. I’m willing to bet that these contracts are the real joke if they were studied by professional labor lawyers. What about
the contract that NETFLIX has with Perskie and Gout’s murder-backwards company? Could we see those? I bet those would not be as funny.
ANDA is the Union of Working Actors in Mexico - Are they going to speak for the deceased? Does ANDA matter? Did Perskie and Gout sign a contract with
ANDA? What about the Baja California Sur Film Commission? What kind of permits did they approve? They sure were talking about the greatness of having
this production in their state, did they send an investigator to talk to the cast and crew that was working? Or do they simply publish a badly worded
little post with the Secretary of Tourisms seal? Could NETFLIX or anybody issue a statement at least.
We need to know what’s going on, we are hungry for the truth. Beyond the backwards murder company of Perskie and Gout and regardless if they ever
work again or are allowed to be near a film set -this is an outrage! There needs to be justice, there needs to be people in prison and those people
have a first and last name; Stacy Perskie and Everardo Gout.
Pacote Mufote and Ray Garduño deserve more than our respects, they deserve a commitment to justice.
https://www.facebook.com/rick.zazueta/posts/7446828845387615
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https://www.tvinsider.com/1049045/the-chosen-one-netflix-dea...
https://twitter.com/BCGobierno/status/1537847744554885120
https://twitter.com/ZETATijuana/status/1537655066731155458
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Wow. That guy is trying to blame everyone under the sun.
It could just be a tragic accident. Filming in Baja does come with inherent risks.
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Life comes with risks, if you get out alive they write a book about you!
If you read his letter it’s more about money than safety, though he does cover both.
It does shed light on the fundamental difference between the Mexican and US legal systems. In Mexico you need to prove that you are innocent.
My experience with unions as a 40+ year member is that they are usually only as good as the members. Mexican movie unions are somewhat different than
the US or Canadian unions. I’ll leave it at that!
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Bummer all the way around. RIP.
Tragic accident and it would seem that there should be some accountability for those in charge of the 'production'. We shall see.
Santa Rosalia to San Ignacio is 76 miles not 230. Not that it matters.
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Km not Miles!!
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Redrum (murder spelled backwards) has me thinking of The Shining, and Jack Nicholson going crazy. I wonder why the company chose that for their name?
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