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[*] posted on 3-14-2023 at 11:58 AM
Latest Pictures - We went North for 2 weeks


The project progressed while we were gone!

Kitchen painting, plumbing and counter sealing complete.


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West wall finished pending painting.



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North Wall finished pending painting and concrete stair steps poured.



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South Wall is almost ready for concrete. Not much container exposed now. Soon no container exposed!



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Pantry Floor done today. Just a few weeks ago this was bare container. Now the roof and walls are insulated and concrete painted white. The floor will be sealed concrete. This is how the upstairs container part of the house will be finished as well.



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Last 2 Solar Panel Racks ready to install.

Solar System 18 - 540W panels 2 - 6KW 240 VAC inverters and 3 - 4 100A 48V Li Ion batteries



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[*] posted on 3-15-2023 at 08:52 AM


Man! It's really coming together! What a fun & engaging project. That is a lot of solar input!
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[*] posted on 3-16-2023 at 10:10 AM


The 18 solar panels allow us to run the AC and charge our car at the same time while still charging the batteries. We anticipate between 7-8KW midday between mid-March and October. The panels are flat mounted to take advantage of our location’s overcast summer weather and the fact that the sun actually travels north of here in summer.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2023 at 12:15 PM


Super cool!

Sorry, I haven't revised the entire thread but you also are grid-connected?

Backup generator?

Congratulations on a cool project.
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[*] posted on 3-16-2023 at 12:26 PM
Finished container door end


The right container door has all the durock installed. You can compare it to the left side. Next step cement covering.

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Air compressor & plasma cutter both on solar. This is why you need 240VAC/48VDC inverters and lots of solar panels.



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Compressors and plasma cutters are difficult loads for small generators or 120VAC solar systems.


For 1/4” steel plate plasma is about 4 times faster cutting than abrasive wheel cutters. Plasma cutter $250 US.

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[*] posted on 3-24-2023 at 08:46 PM
The outside Durock is all installed


The Durock (Cement Board) was installed on the East side today.

This picture shows container wall, insulation and Durock.



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This picture shows the completed south end with white cement and the East side completely covered. The 1st scratch coat of cement will be done tomorrow and finished in white cement next week.



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The work inside (electrical) continues.
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[*] posted on 3-25-2023 at 08:16 AM


Nice job. Interesting to see, thank you!



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[*] posted on 3-26-2023 at 07:09 AM


Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
The 18 solar panels allow us to run the AC and charge our car at the same time while still charging the batteries. We anticipate between 7-8KW midday between mid-March and October. The panels are flat mounted to take advantage of our location’s overcast summer weather and the fact that the sun actually travels north of here in summer.


RFClark: We are especially interested in how your solar will meet your needs. We have about an equivalent sizing of panels as you for our fully electric home about 60 miles north of you on the pacific coast, but a fair bit more in batteries, and the total of 32,500 watt hours lithium battery storage seems about right when we get a string of cloudy days during winter months. So far with these batteries our generator has not been needed. I have some questions:
Are you also on grid power, or do you have a supplementary generator that will take excess loads, or a larger generator to recharge and carry full loads in case of solar system failures as we do?
Are you installing timers to spread the various loads out as excess solar is available and after battery storage is recharged?

[Edited on 3-26-2023 by JDCanuck]




A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 3-26-2023 at 12:05 PM


JD,

We plan to go up to 20KW in battery storage eventually. Our heaviest load is our car charging (4KW) for 2.5 Hrs. We’ve done all our welding and cutting off the inverters since we installed them.

I calculate that we’ll ultimately have at least 8KW of solar power midday. Our 4 inverter ACs will draw around 4KW max giving us plenty of margin to charge and run the house. Currently with 2 of the 3 arrays installed we have over a KW of solar from 8:00 AM on.

We don’t have CFE in our area. We have a backup inverter propane plant that is rated at 9KW 240VAC. It will charge the batteries and carry our maximum AC load.

If we needed night time AC. I would run the generator until we turn in and then AC the bedroom(s) off the 12K btu mini-splits in each BR from the batteries.

Our San Felipe place has internet control of all the heavy loads. The new place has internet control of the ACs (Carrier AC). We really don’t have any other big loads that run automatically. We have a dishwasher which we run after 9:00 with a 90 min cycle. Hot water is propane on demand a few feet away from the DW so its water is quite hot. Max draw is about 900W for the DW.
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[*] posted on 3-27-2023 at 07:32 AM


Thanks RFC: Sounds to me like you have excess panels for what you plan as the hot water and stove appear to be on propane. Our hot water is all electric on 3 separate tanks totaling 60 gal and this is by far our largest loading. The induction/ convection stove and convection toasters are the second highest loads, but induction stovetop is extremely efficient and boils water in under 2 min as opposed to 4-5 on propane or electric element. I've considered putting in solar hot water heaters upstream of the electrics, but so far have not found a supplier willing to install out here. If I ever do this, I should have enough excess to charge a moderately sized BEV. Always something for the future. Do you have any experience with pressurized solar hot water heaters?



A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 3-27-2023 at 07:48 AM


I am intrigued by the capabilities of the new 2-way charging and discharging EV's like the Lightning F-150 and the possibility of having them supply power to the home at a far cheaper cost than expanding the solar batteries when they are not being used for transport. So far only 2 or 3 suppliers have thought this one out, but I think it will become far more common in future. We have tried to keep our installed solar batteries minimalized for this reason. Sunrun requires an 80 amp charger circuit for this purpose with the Lightning.
Heres the concept:
https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/feature...

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A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 3-27-2023 at 08:24 AM


"I calculate that we’ll ultimately have at least 8KW of solar power midday. Our 4 inverter ACs will draw around 4KW max giving us plenty of margin to charge and run the house. Currently with 2 of the 3 arrays installed we have over a KW of solar from 8:00 AM on."

If you have had the same installer as us for the solar, I suspect you will push out 9kw or more in summer at peaks, as we are getting over 10kw with just a bit more (4%) panels rating, and the daily output breaks above 60kwh at peaks if we can get the loading phased in to utilize it all. We have 24 - 445w panels installed, so the daily solar factor is just a bit over 6 in our location, we were expecting only 5 to 5.5. Over winter months, we found that dropped by about 1/3 at the most, and our panel orientation is not the best, shifted about 10 degrees to the west.

[Edited on 3-27-2023 by JDCanuck]




A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 3-27-2023 at 12:01 PM


Electric hot water requires too much electricity even for a CFE house. We need propane for backup anyway. We also have induction plates we use when it’s hot. A heat pump water heater might be a good idea when the price comes down. You cant beat 11 Peso propane and $150 demand water heaters. Saves water too!

My calculations as to the max available are very rough. We mounted our panels flat because the sun is actually north of us at 22 degrees for a lot of the Spring, Summer and Fall. We also have low overcast often in the mornings and evenings.

Flat mounts work better in both cases. Less peak power when the sun is south of us but more hours per day. The less hours on batteries the longer they last. We generate power from sunrise to sunset on clear days. Our neighbors with south facing panels generate from about 8:30 - 17:00 right now. Flat panels survive high winds better as well.

We built and installed our own panel racks.
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[*] posted on 3-27-2023 at 12:25 PM


Yes, it may work better overall at a somewhat reduced angle, we too get excess solar generation from about 7:30 to18:00, recharging of batteries and additional loads from 8 to 17:30 as it needs to overcome internal system losses as well, which run around 220 watts 24 hr a day. 2 and 1/2 ton heat pumps are timed from 6:30 to 20:00 with enough battery power to run 2 bedroom 1 tons on extended cooling all night if desired, which will draw down the storage to about 35-50% before excess solar is available again the next day. These are winter factors, summer of course we will be more stingy on the cooling overnite, but we are seldom in occupancy at that time of year.
The surprising part this past year was the amount of heating it took overnite to maintain 23 degrees inside. I've been told it was an exceptionally cool year. In summer we find we adjust to 25 to 26 degrees inside and feel rather cool as the outdoor temps are significantly higher.


[Edited on 4-19-2023 by JDCanuck]




A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 4-2-2023 at 12:01 PM
Interior walls (Finally!)


We are finally doing the upstairs interior. These shots are from the living room. There is a bedroom and bathroom on each side of the living room. The roof and perimeter of the 2nd floor are insulated and each of the Bedroom and bathroom areas are also insulated to allow operation of zone climate control as each area has its own mini split heat pump.

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[*] posted on 4-9-2023 at 10:00 PM
Cooking a Holiday Dinner in our new kitchen



Home made chili rellenos for dinner from our new kitchen.Today is Sandy’s birthday too. I wish you all a happy whatever you celebrate and will have more construction pictures next week.
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We’re building exterior furniture as well as doors. The wood is domestic 1” Teak planks. It has a more interesting grain than the African Teak we’re using for hand rails.

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[*] posted on 4-18-2023 at 06:34 PM
Visitors at our doorstep


We had visitors today. Our concrete guy said tacos and burritos de burro are all the rage in La Paz on the weekends.

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Moving on the scratch coat is mostly on and the master bath will be done in a couple of days. Pictures soon!

Currently we’re getting over 2KW of solar at 7:30 AM from our 12 - 540 W panels.


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[*] posted on 4-18-2023 at 06:42 PM


Looking great, coming along so nicely. Are you guys living downstairs now?
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[*] posted on 4-19-2023 at 10:55 AM


Yes, we’ve been living there for about a month now.
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[*] posted on 4-20-2023 at 04:48 PM
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Hi,

This type of shutter is widely used in Europe. Does anyone have any experience with them.

The concept:

In the up position the 2 halves are latched together to make a single unit. Both halves are covered with galvanized metal sheeting the same as we used on the ends of the house. They will be painted white on the exterior side to match the house. Yes there will be a 3rd hinge in the center of the production units.

The frames and undersides will be painted black to match the steel window frame.

We plan to use 20” gas shocks (think hatchbacks) to hold them open. There will be pin latches on each side in the middle and bottom to hold them closed.

1/4” neoprene strips will be between the shutter and the window frame to prevent rattle when closed.

I’m interested in any of your thoughts.

Thanks

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