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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 09:16 AM
Starbucks at Mission Santa Maria soon


a new 10 mile road has been pushed in from Rancho San Ignacito (major roadside restaurant) to Mission Santa Maria

according to last year's sat images they were at 1/2 from the mission

one lane, rough and steep in parts like the Santa Ines road



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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 09:44 AM


When we drove in last March, I saw no road coming in but that is all granite and I wasn't looking for a new road. I did zoom in on Google Earth to the new road and it is quite visible. Maybe I should mention it in the new guide, at San Ignacito? Starbucks coming soon?

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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 10:08 AM


San Ignacito is the start of the road

Starbucks will be at Santa Maria
with a new highway coming in, it is only a matter of time
guess, they want to exploit the Santa Maria Pool (what the call Baja Oasis now)
too difficult to drag people over Widowmaker




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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 10:59 AM


Harald, Can you give me the coords to find teh start for the road?
Thanks Paul
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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 11:28 AM


29°39'34.17"N, 114°38'40.11"W
might not be open to the public yet




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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 12:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
San Ignacito is the start of the road

Starbucks will be at Santa Maria
with a new highway coming in, it is only a matter of time
guess, they want to exploit the Santa Maria Pool (what the call Baja Oasis now)
too difficult to drag people over Widowmaker


Yes, I knew that... I just didn't hit the T when I replied on my phone. Thanks... it has been corrected. LIke how you missed the Y for: "what they call Baja Oasis..."

'Pozo de Escuadra' has been the Internet name for the pretty oasis down in the canyon, below the Indian trail (orig ECR) you can see going down from the end of the bulldozed road.




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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 12:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Harald, Can you give me the coords to find teh start for the road?
Thanks Paul


Here is the other end of the new road: 29°44'04.3"N 114°32'55.1"W




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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 01:05 PM


Santa Maria Pool = Baja Oasis = Pozo de Escuadra



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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 02:49 PM


Do you have to pass thru the restaurant's property or is there another way around? And if you're passing thru, I assume no problems?



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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 03:58 PM


Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
Do you have to pass thru the restaurant's property or is there another way around? And if you're passing thru, I assume no problems?


A Mexicali Nomad who has posted photo-filled trip reports, emailed me about this new road. I think there may be a toll collected by the ranch to cover the cost to them... Let me look if I can find and share his findings.
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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 08:01 PM


Why would anyone want to build another road to the mission from Hwy 1? I didn't think the road in from Santa Inez was that bad especially if you take the arroyo run. Build a road from Hwy 5 to the mission.
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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 09:01 PM


Is this road really new? I looked on GE, it did not appear new. Perhaps it is just a cattle trail or old ranch road that got scraped?

It would make sense for someone to scrape the other existing road, and charge people $10 to pass.

Toll roads sound like a good idea for ranchers to make a few bucks off campers and knuckle draggers.






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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 09:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by TMW  
Why would anyone want to build another road to the mission from Hwy 1? I didn't think the road in from Santa Inez was that bad especially if you take the arroyo run. Build a road from Hwy 5 to the mission.


Probably cheapest to scrape an existing/abandoned road or cattle trail. Cutting new roads is usually More work.




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[*] posted on 11-10-2022 at 10:24 PM


brand new 2021 road
no traces of it before

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[*] posted on 11-11-2022 at 08:09 AM


There was just a foot trail, from San Ignacito to the mission, well documented by Baja Nomad 'rockman' aka Norm Christie in a magazine and shown on some maps as a road.

The new Rancho San Ignacito people have been busy!

Here is a post from 2007, in my reply to TWW, I include the article text. The only difference is that the trail Norm used junctioned with the existing road a mile past the mission rather than 1/4 mile before it:

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
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DK when you've been at the mission did you ever see any remains of the trail leading out to hwy 1 near San Ignacito?


No Tom, but that trail goes through a pass/ canyon that comes into the Santa Maria mission valley a mile past the mission... where the road drops into the white sand arroyo...

Norm Christie ('rockman' on Nomad) wrote an article about hiking to the mission on that trail, then down the canyon to Punta Final... I have a link to that story in my web site...

It is from 1993:
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Mision Santa Maria
By Norm Christie


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The ruins of Mision Santa Maria de Los Angeles are about as far from a road as any mission on the Baja California peninsula. I had tried for two years to mobilize some friends for a backpacking trip into the site without success. So, in mid-September 1993, when "Dr. Bob" Binton phoned me to say that he had three friends wanting to make the hike in October, I enthusiastically accepted his invitation. We rendezvoused near Catavina on the eighteenth of October. During the next five days we experienced some of the most fascinating and beautiful areas on the peninsula.

The Santa Maria mission was the last mission built by the Jesuits before they were expelled from Mexico for political intrigues. The area, which includes freshwater springs in a valley named "Cabujacaamang" by the Indians, was first seen by Father Fernando Consag in 1746, when he discovered Bahia San Luis Gonzaga on the Sea of Cortez. The mission itself was built in 1767 by Father Arnes and Diez as the third in a string of remote missions. It was designed to replace Mision Calamajue which was built in the previous year, but was found to have water that was too highly mineralized to sustain crops.

Although built in a wide canyon surrounded by volcanic rock and granite, Mision Santa Maria was the only mission built by the Jesuits mainly of adobe bricks rather than stone. After the Jesuits reluctantly departed from Baja Sur, the Franciscans occupied the site for a few months in 1768, but abandoned it as a principle mission when they began construction of the new Mission San Fernando de Velicata, forty miles to the northwest, in 1769. At that time, the Santa Maria mission became an outpost of Mission San Francisco Borja until 1818 when it was permanently abandoned.

Beginning in 1961, attempts were made to bulldoze a trail from Rancho Santa Ines, past the Santa Maria mission to Bahia Gonzaga on the Sea of Cortez. Constructed with great amounts of effort, the road reached a point about a half mile east of the mission on the Camino Real, but was abandoned because of impassable terrain. Today that trail has eroded and is obliterated in many areas, but is still the most common route for Santa Maria's infrequent visitors.

Our group decided on a different route. Our starting point was the small "Chelanga" gold mine just north of Jaraguay, reached by a dirt road turning off the highway at km 187. Our route was northward, crossing the peninsula divide at Puerto la Mission (elevation 2500). We passed grinding stones, sleep circles and other evidence of early Indians. The rock in this are is mainly volcanic. As we proceeded northward, we dropped down into a dry wash which had eroded into the light colored granite under the volcanics. We encountered our first waterholes about one mile past the divide. Many maps identify this canyon as Canon Santa Maria, but in fact, this canyon runs into the real Canon Santa Maria (as identified by the locals and historians) about a mile below the mission. We continued northeast in this canyon. Occasional pools of water developed into a continuous small stream which occasionally blossomed into large pools surrounded by forests of palm trees. This water is present throughout the entire year. I used a filter before drinking the water, but "Tomas" Campbell, a fellow hiker, took his chances and drank the the water straight from the stream during the entire trip without ill effects. A few wild mountain sheep, deer and smaller wild animals inhabit this area, but free-range cattle very rarely get up into this remote yet enticing region.

There are two main types of palm tree here; Palma Verde (Palma Almenico) and Palma Azul (Palma Senico and Palma Taco). Both bear small edible fruits which taste, as one might imagine, like dates. They add a gourmet touch when pitted and added to instant Quaker Oats in the mornings.

Our first night's campsite was in the canyon northwest of Pico Colorado at an elevation of about 1600 feet. The next morning, Wednesday, we explored some tributary canyons in the area and then departed the campsite at 11:30 AM. Hiking over the smoothly eroded granite boulders in the steep sided canyon, we arrived at the junction of this canyon and the main Santa Maria canyon at 2:15 PM. We had been told that the best campsite in the area was about 1/4 mile downstream in an oasis-like setting with a large pool. The Santa Maria mission is about one mile upstream from the junction.

The following morning, leaving our sleeping bags and camp gear at the oasis, we hiked up the broad main canyon (the real Canon Santa Maria), to the mission. I had read that the mission had been built of stone blocks and adobe, but there was no evidence of stone blocks anywhere. The site originally consisted of a large adove church building, and adobe barracks-like quarters and storage building, and a stone corral. Aerial photos show evidence of other buildings that were probably made of palm wood, but it is not evident on the ground. A photo published in 1908 shows the church walls to be much higher than they are now, and the storage/barracks building to be nearly intact (though roofless). Today, a few pits are evident where treasure hunters may or may not have found the legendary lost treasure of the Jesuits. A small trickle of running water nourishes a glassy palm forest along the watercourse, but there are no deep pools remaining near the mission. Remnants of a crude aqueduct may still be seen.

The mission had attracted more than 300 Indians when the cadre of newly arrived Franciscans moved north ward in 1768. Although there was sufficient water here, there was insufficient arable soil to grow the corp needed to keep the Indians attracted to the church.

The following morning, we split up and explored various tributary canyons. We were mainly searching for rock art and pictographs which had been reported in the area. No significant art was found that day, but some garnet crystals were discovered in quartz veins in Cerro Pinto canyon, south of the main canyon. This canyon has running water (sometimes underground) and several large, deep water holes.

On the morning of October 20, we cleaned our campsite and packed up for the last leg of our hike toward Bahia Gonzaga. Our local guide, Prieto, told us that the main canyon downstream had several impassable areas of deep pools flanked by vertical smooth awls of granite, so we hiked up above the canyon, on its north rim, along the remnant of the old Camino Real. This involved climbing slightly to a maximum elevation of 1375 feet (the west end of the bulldozed trail) and proceeding for about a half mile. Along this stretch we observed several rocks with petroglyphs. We then returned to the floor of the canyon (675 feet) where there was still water. As we proceeded westward, the canyon became wilder and sandier. Reaching the beginning of the large alluvial fan at about 575 feet elevation, there was no sign of surface water; it was now flowing under the sand. We walked about another mile before arriving at our previously arranged meeting site with a couple of vehicles (with ice chests full of notably cool refreshments) and proceeded on wheels to Punta Final where resident friends were preparing a welcome back dinner.

We were all tired, but not exhausted. Although we did not have a thermometer, temperatures were estimated to range from about 85F during the day to 55F at night. I had made the mistake of wearing light weight hiking boots. They began to fall apart while we crossed the sharp stones of the volcanic terrain on the first day. Temporary repairs were made with an awl and some cord, but I suggest that future hikers in this area wear stronger boots. On our final evening, the boots, our only casualty, were cremated and given a decent burial.



Getting there: The turnoff to our trailhead at the Chelanga mine is 6.5 miles south of Catavina on Highway 1. Catavina is 295 miles south of Tijuana, and the location of a nice La Pinto hotel, gas station (with mechanics) and a great little cafe at the station. More elegant meals (and margaritas) are available at the hotel. An alternate trailhead or exit point is Rancho Santa Inex, on a signed, paved side road 1/2 mile south of Catavina. Here there is a Flying Samaritans medical clinic, paved runway, and a cafe where you can get cool drinks and information. The terminal point for our hike is near the coastal gravel road from Puertocitos to Highway 1 at Laguna Chapala. This road is good from Alfonsina's southward, but terrible between Puertocitos and Alfonsina's. Ice, drinking water and a good dirt airstrip are available at the turnoff to Alfonsina's. On this route, the last dependable gas and supplies are at San Felipe, 155 miles south of Mexicali.
Climate: Because summer temperatures often exceed 100 degrees, this trip would be very uncomfortable from July through September. December through March can be cold, sometimes in the 40's at night. Rain is rare, but drizzle is possible in the winter, and tropical downpours occur occsionally in summer.

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[*] posted on 11-11-2022 at 09:05 AM


So this road would be about 5 miles shorter? Pardon my ignorance, 4x4, but could you explain your white and yellow markings on your topo please.
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[*] posted on 11-11-2022 at 09:15 AM


I think that is close about right (4-5 miles shorter) at a glance.
Good question for Harald about his colors!

Here is the trail east from San Ignacito shown incorrectly as being the same as the auto road from Santa Inés, in the 2003 Baja Almanac folding map:





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[*] posted on 11-11-2022 at 10:34 AM


Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
So this road would be about 5 miles shorter? Pardon my ignorance, 4x4, but could you explain your white and yellow markings on your topo please.


black = pavement
white = mining trail or new 4x4 track
yellow = rural 4x4 road
green = animal trail or Camino Real




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[*] posted on 11-11-2022 at 10:41 AM


the valley from the west always had importance as a supply route to the mission
hence the name Puerto La Mision

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[*] posted on 11-11-2022 at 10:48 AM


I have pretty much all of Baja mapped
there are few corners that I don't know
either in person or bird's view

Google released new images and during an update I found the new Santa Maria road
there are dozens of other new and exciting roads all over Baja

lotsa new ranch prospecting as well

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