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pacificobob
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Transpeninsular train
https://www.sandiegored.com/en/news/233658/Amazing-peninsula...
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mtgoat666
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If you take enough hallucinogens, you might see this train in your lifetime.
I am still waiting for escalara nautica and the mega-port,… are those projects done yet?
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I would love to see train travel make a big comeback and I could see it becoming so. Flying has become such a drag, between the escalating cost, the
security line-ups, the cancelled and delayed flights, the lost luggage. My daughter who came down for Xmas had a delayed flight because one of the
flight attendants was seriously late getting to work. An entire planeload of people delayed an hour and a half because an employee couldn't manage to
get to work on time and apparently they had no one else on call.
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mtgoat666
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Train from Tijuana to San José del Cabo will have departures every 30 minutes 
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/tren-de-tijuana-a-san-jose-del-ca...
transpenninsular train will only cost 8 billion USD. this is a really good deal, compared to the CA high speed rail project estimated to cost 105
billion USD 
the stations will be the following:
Estación Tijuana
Estación Ensenada
Estación San Pedro Mártir
Estación Bahía de Los Ángeles
Estación Guerrero Negro
Estación Santa Rosalía
Estación Ciudad Constitución
Estación La Paz
Estación Todos Santos
Estación Cabo San Lucas
Estación San José del Cabo
the planners seem to have left San Quintin and Mulege off the list? what's up with that?
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Baja people love fairy tales and ghost stories
if you want to succeed as politician, you have to throw one out on occasion
there have been wilder proposals in the past
Harald Pietschmann
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Never going to happen. The Tijuana rapid transit bus system SITT they rolled out in 2016 has been a complete failure. Even if they somehow managed to
build this train system I don't believe it would be maintained or administered properly.
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You gringos are a bunch of fuddy duddy pessimists! Youth is needed. You old farts are lack imagination! You need to dream big to accomplish big
things! Go crawl back under your rocks, you Debbie downers!
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rccali
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Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  | | You gringos are a bunch of fuddy duddy pessimists! Youth is needed. You old farts are lack imagination! You need to dream big to accomplish big
things! Go crawl back under your rocks, you Debbie downers! |
Free balloon rides in Del Mar this week. You should check it out.
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Don Pisto
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from all the same folks that swore highway 5 would never be completed in their lifetime....
there's only two things in life but I forget what they are........
John Hiatt
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rccali
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Almost 13 years later I'm still waiting on the elevated toll road from the border to Playas. I believe there was also another project proposed of an
elevated toll road from Playas to the airport. So when is the groundbreaking on these projects? That would be never.
You can ignore any projects like this floated out by Mexican officials. They're just lying for effect.
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-alternate-border-r...
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When we moved to San Pancho in Nayarit in 2012 the toll road between Vallarta and GDL was projected to be finished August of 2013.
Some of it has and those parts are NICE!
Next year......
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The train scheme sounds a lot like the Escalera Nautica project.
That was the project to build harbors and marinas around the coast of Baja (a nautical ladder) plus a cross-peninsula, boat ferry from Santa
Rosalillita to Bahía de los Angeles.
An extra wide paved road was built from Hwy. 1 to Santa Rosalillita's harbor site (bypassing the town). The harbor was built (unwisely), the boat
elevator delivered, and paved pullouts along the road to L.A. Bay added (to allow cars places the pass the slow trucks carrying the yachts).
Then they learned that sailboat owners are cheap and wouldn't trust the truck drivers to ferry their 'babies' from one side of Baja to the other...
Oh, and the 2008 political and economic disaster happened!
Now, that harbor has filled with sand and the whole thing was abandoned.
Frank ('soulpatch') reminded me also of the Puertecitos to Gonzaga and Laguna Chapala highway project (123 kms./76 miles). Started in 2007, advancing
about 10 kms. a year, arrived at Gonzaga Bay (72 kms.) 7 years later, and went 20 kms. past. Then the final 31 kms. took 6 more years, finishing in
early 2020. Some years no work was done at all. [Those with calculators that knows the last Km. marker reads 201, will have to deduct 3 'mystery
kilometers' because the highway crew, after Km. 167, made the next one to read Km. 171!]
In 1973 (one year), the Transpeninsular Highway was built north from San Ignacio and south from San Quintín, 345 miles, finishing that project. A
project put into action in the late 1960's to build 800 miles of the 1,000+ mile Hwy. #1. Some of those miles were graded and ready to pave in the
late 1950s but more were or became an unimproved primitive road.
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As an aside after some reflection someone connected in the train corridor building business might get it done.
They are just blowing in the Mayan train infrastructure with zero regard to the environment and when somebody connected needs to clean dollars/make
money things do get done.
It will be fascinating to see if it does happen and SCAMLO is not above the fray.
There is a lot of big Mexican money behind the Mayan Express and there is also Chinese money.
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The one completed outcome of the Escalera Nautica project was power run north from GN to BoLA thus enabling gas stations in BoLA instead of the fuel
truck and drums/cans of gas.
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Why do you need a 100Km of power lines to pump gas? Puertecitos and BofG both have had Pemex stations for decades off the grid. The one is closed but
not because of electricity.
[Edited on 2-15-2023 by RFClark]
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The town of Bahía de los Angeles had been powered by diesel generators since the 1960s as it grew from 50 people to several hundred +.
While it was romantic to see all those stars come out when the generator was shut off at 10 pm, the size of the town, food refrigeration needs, and
summer night AC, for the fussy gringos, pretty much demanded 24 hour electricity by 2006, when the wires went in.
Gas stations do not need to be on the grid. Pemex had stations at San Agustin, Cataviña, Parador Punta Prieta, and Villa Jesus María in 1974,
decades before 2006. All but one closed, but that was due to poor ejido management and lack of banking services or a good labor pool!
It has been interesting to see the changes since the 1960s to now!
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4x4abc
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| Quote: Originally posted by baja-chris | | The one completed outcome of the Escalera Nautica project was power run north from GN to BoLA thus enabling gas stations in BoLA instead of the fuel
truck and drums/cans of gas. |
the reason for the power line to Bahia de los Angles is that high ranking gov officials own a lot of land in the area.
Nobody givers a sh.. about a gas station
Harald Pietschmann
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc | | Quote: Originally posted by baja-chris | | The one completed outcome of the Escalera Nautica project was power run north from GN to BoLA thus enabling gas stations in BoLA instead of the fuel
truck and drums/cans of gas. |
the reason for the power line to Bahia de los Angles is that high ranking gov officials own a lot of land in the area.
Nobody givers a sh.. about a gas station
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maybe. maybe not. bola is large enough to have obtained grid connection on it's own merits.
it may also help that some rich mexicans like carlos slim have bought up land in the area.
the fact that military is guarding an airfield at bola despite it's lapsed permit tells you that someone is pulling some sort of strings for bola.
these strings pulled for bola do not extend to solving the murders of gringos in bola,... the string pullers dont care about that.
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Goat,
“String pullers” usually don’t investigate themselves, families, or friends!
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And they just figured out they're going to need continuous military presence to guard the thing. Some six thousand of them.
Who coulda possibly dreamt of resistance, right there in the middle of Cruzob territory?
And SCAMLO wants to have the military in charge of law enforcement but he also wants them involved in tourism....pretty innovative, no?
A for profit military system works in so many ways.
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