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[*] posted on 3-6-2023 at 11:36 AM
Four US Citizens Kidnapped by armed men in Matamoros



Not Baja but along the Mexican border with Texas. Still relevant IMO.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/06/americans-ki...

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[*] posted on 3-6-2023 at 04:06 PM


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(CNN) Four US citizens were assaulted and kidnapped by gunmen in northeastern Mexico on Friday in a case of mistaken identity, a US official with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

The Americans are believed to have been targeted by mistake and were not the intended victims, the official said. Investigators believe a Mexican cartel likely mistook them for Haitian drug smugglers, the official said, adding investigators have not identified any concerning criminal history on the part of the Americans.

The Americans had traveled to the border city of Matamoros for medical procedures, the official said,...




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[*] posted on 3-6-2023 at 04:46 PM


It's cool that the old Goat has inside knowledge about these cartels and that they were not the Haitian drug smugglers kidnapped but were another group of some friendlies? How Goat got to be so interconnected in cartels we'll never know, but it's great he is here posting accurate updates about cartels, identities, drug smugglers and kidnappers with his inside knowledge as a cartel member/informant.

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[*] posted on 3-6-2023 at 05:25 PM


Quote: Originally posted by gnukid  
It's cool that the old Goat has inside knowledge about these cartels and that they were not the Haitian drug smugglers kidnapped but were another group of some friendlies? How Goat got to be so interconnected in cartels we'll never know, but it's great he is here posting accurate updates about cartels, identities, drug smugglers and kidnappers with his inside knowledge as a cartel member/informant.

[Edited on 3-6-2023 by gnukid]


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What you talking about? Are you posting after doing bong hits? I just posted a news blurb from CNN. My knowledge of this event is no more than the news provided!





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[*] posted on 3-6-2023 at 06:30 PM


the video out there doesn't look too good:(



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[*] posted on 3-6-2023 at 10:58 PM


This is absolutely awful.




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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 07:00 AM


‘Mistakes” like this attack on medical tourists are what happens when Mexico tolerates cartels. Cartels won’t be stomped out until communities and politicians say no.

When Mexico allows cartels to operate with impunity, this is what happens.
The fault lies with citizens and government that allow cartels to run over Mexico.





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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 08:31 AM


Sounds like they have all been found. 2 dead. 2 alive.
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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 01:54 PM


Looks like we don’t have enough wars going presently so the usual suspects are putting Mexico on the agenda. Im sure the Mexican citizens will appreciate a foreign military invasion from the north.

Graham says he will introduce bill to ‘set the stage’ for US to use military force in Mexico
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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 02:39 PM


These four people, driving halfway across the United States (from North or South Carolina), to save money for a tummy tuck or get a perscrition filled cheaper, doesn't make much sense to me... How many hotel nights, round-trip, plus the cost of gasoline, meals, etc?

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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 04:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
Graham says he will introduce bill to ‘set the stage’ for US to use military force in Mexico
https://l.smartnews.com/YFg1N/yxoEFV


Here is a quote from news today

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​Sen. Lindsey Graham said Monday he will introduce a bill laying the groundwork ​for President Biden to use US military force against Mexican drug cartels.

“I’m going to introduce legislation,... to make certain Mexican drug cartels foreign terrorist organizations under US law and set the stage to use military force if necessary to protect America from being poisoned by things coming out of Mexico,”

Graham said he agrees with former Attorney General Bill Barr, who wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed last week that the US should designate the cartels as terrorist groups and confront them the same way past administrations confronted ISIS in the Middle East.


So, it seems Barr and Graham are saying they want to use cruise missiles to fight cartels on mexican soil.
Coming soon: air strikes on high value targets in tijuana and rosarito!




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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 07:19 PM


Of course it's awful what happened to these folks, but perhaps if some didn't have their faces covered with piercings and visible tattoos all over, they wouldn't have attracted undue attention.
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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 07:59 PM


Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Of course it's awful what happened to these folks, but perhaps if some didn't have their faces covered with piercings and visible tattoos all over, they wouldn't have attracted undue attention.



Blame the victims. Typical BS from you.




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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 08:18 PM


I hope someone needy and deserving is $50K richer!



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Quote: Originally posted by surabi  
Of course it's awful what happened to these folks, but perhaps if some didn't have their faces covered with piercings and visible tattoos all over, they wouldn't have attracted undue attention.


You sound like a religious zealot right winger, blaming the victims.




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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 09:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by Don Pisto  
I hope someone needy and deserving is $50K richer!

My bet is if those perps actually were cartel lackeys, they won't be around long enough to get caught; the jefes aren't going to be at all happy with a screw-up that brings down the kind of heat this is generating.


well so far they got one in custody and SOMEBODY led em to the shed holding the four.....that should be good for FBI 50K




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[*] posted on 3-7-2023 at 10:43 PM


I wasn't blaming the victims and perhaps they were just were unlucky enough to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. But we all know that when you travel outside of your normal habitat, it's wise to do as much research as possible about where you are going to be travelling, take stock of your surroundings and not draw too much attention to yourself.

The woman's mother was worried about her going and apparently she told her everything would be fine, not to worry. While that is usually the case, Tamaulipas is one of the more dangerous places to be, and I would bet those folks didn't bother reading up about it.

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[*] posted on 3-8-2023 at 11:22 AM


I'm pretty comfortable with traveling in Mexico alone by car, but I always tell everyone to stay out of the big border cities. If you need a list: Matamoros, Reynosa, Nuevo Laredo, Juarez, Nogales, Mexicali, and Tijuana.
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[*] posted on 3-8-2023 at 01:24 PM


Hard to get into the 'good' Mexico without going through border cities.



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[*] posted on 3-8-2023 at 02:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Hard to get into the 'good' Mexico without going through border cities.


Those are just the seven border cities I avoid. The combination of the busy crossings and the cartel activity are enough to keep me away. When I go to / leave Mexico I use the crossings in small border towns, which seem to be just as safe as the interior of Mexico.
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