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I wish I could say past tariffs have created positive results. The computer chips tariff of late 1990's pushed IBM, Dell, Apple and Texas Instruments
computer manufacturing to China. Steel tariffs that hit somewhat after that eventually pushed global steel giants and ship builders out of the US into
Asia. US Steel is a fraction of what it used to be and increasingly non competitive. Remember when GE, Westinghouse Whirlpool and Maytag used to be
mighty companies actually built from parts made in the US? Will this time be different? We will have to wait for ten years to see.
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Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  | | Steel tariffs that hit somewhat after that eventually pushed global steel giants out of the US into Asia. US Steel is a fraction of what it used to be
and increasingly non competitive. Will this time be different? We will have to wait for ten years to see. |
A bit oversimplified. Union contracts/labor prices have been biggest contributor to offshoring to Asia.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco | | Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck | | Steel tariffs that hit somewhat after that eventually pushed global steel giants out of the US into Asia. US Steel is a fraction of what it used to be
and increasingly non competitive. Will this time be different? We will have to wait for ten years to see. |
A bit oversimplified. Union contracts/labor prices have been biggest contributor to offshoring to Asia. |
Well, then as now, it was the Unions that were the primary people demanding the protectionist tariffs for their benefit.
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Hi guys !
Time to have this conversation ended. This might go to far into politics.
This forum is about the enjoyment of traveling in Baja !
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Do you think the kids knew they were taking Fentanyl?
What if it happened to your kid? Or someone in your family? Would you be so smug??
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Sheinbaum responds on X. Anyone translate?
https://x.com/Claudiashein/status/1885857655094415528?ref_sr...
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JZ
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Maybe she should get a hold of the cartels and make Mexico and Baja safe for all?
Is that too much to ask?
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Anyone who is awake will tell you that the narco corruption has reached all levels of government in Mexico.
Catching 10 tons a month is telling. Imagine the amount getting thru...
Sheinbaum makes it sound like she doesn't have a massive problem with drug consumption in her country. That is extremely absurd to say.
More rhetoric from a Socialist politician who has done nothing to help Mexico. Her leadership is watching over an era of unprecedented violence and
standing by while the tentacles of the cartels are reaching deeper into every corner of the Mexican economy and culture.
It is undeniable that Mexico is a more dangerous place than it was 10 years ago. Sad.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco |
Sheinbaum makes it sound like she doesn't have a massive problem with drug consumption in her country. That is extremely absurd to say.
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What's absurd is your contention that Mexico has a massive drug consumption problem. You see hundreds of strung out drug addicts living on the street
in Mexico, like you do all over the US? You hear about tons of young Mexicans dying of fentanyl overdoses?
It is Americans who drive the drug trade, as well as supplying guns to the cartels.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco |
Sheinbaum makes it sound like she doesn't have a massive problem with drug consumption in her country. That is extremely absurd to say.
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What's absurd is your contention that Mexico has a massive drug consumption problem. You see hundreds of strung out drug addicts living on the street
in Mexico, like you do all over the US? You hear about tons of young Mexicans dying of fentanyl overdoses?
It is Americans who drive the drug trade, as well as supplying guns to the cartels. |
America definitely has a drug consumption problem. As does Mexico. If you haven't seen homeless and drug addicts in Mexico, I am not sure how to help
you understand this. They are everywhere but there is no media focus because there are bigger issues to tackle like the daily murders all across the
country at the hands of the cartel.
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Of course I've seen strung out tweakers in Mexico. They exist everywhere in the world. That doesn't translate to Mexico having a "massive problem with
drug consumption". It doesn't.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Of course I've seen strung out tweakers in Mexico. They exist everywhere in the world. That doesn't translate to Mexico having a "massive problem with
drug consumption". It doesn't. |
There are videos posted daily of drugged out cartel members interrogating then decapitating those they deem to be enemies. That is a big drug problem.
It is.
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Cartel killing other cartel enemies has nothing to do with the erroneous notion that Mexico has a "massive drug consumption problem".
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As I said, there are drug addicts everywhere. And meth seems to make people crazy and violent. So the crime that results is definitely a problem, but
it doesn't mean there is a huge addiction issue in Mexico.
No, not very prevalent in my neck of the woods and I've actually seen more down and out foreigners stumbling down the street obviously strung out on
something than Mexicans.
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | As I said, there are drug addicts everywhere. And meth seems to make people crazy and violent. So the crime that results is definitely a problem, but
it doesn't mean there is a huge addiction issue in Mexico.
No, not very prevalent in my neck of the woods and I've actually seen more down and out foreigners stumbling down the street obviously strung out on
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This is right. No data out of MX for how addiction is playing out for Mexicans. There IS a massive drug problem around production in MX.
Consumption is a massive US problem.
From what I read, crack has been a problem in MX and fentanyl use is on the rise.
I don't see homeless or addicts between La Paz and Cabo. It's not epidemic yet. MX border towns have a bigger addiction problem. It's not been
documented by MX and data doesn't exist. Don't know a thing about Mainland problems but Surabi does.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Anecdotally, there seemed to be more meth heads around my area several years ago than there are now. I don't know whether they've been run out of
town, arrested and incarcerated for thievery and other crimes, or fentanyl has taken over, so the addicts are not as visible. (Meth seems to hype
people up, whereas fentanyl has sedative effects- uppers vs. downers)
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