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Barry A.
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Don----------Hmmmmm, I sky-hook might work. That is a really sad predicament!
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David K
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Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo |
At least I didn't get stuck! I mean, I did not need help to get back on the road, so I was just "delayed'.
By the way, I am not lifting the front by that plastic bumper. The jack has hooks for a chain that passed through the bumper and hooked to the frame.
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I used the term "temporarily immobile" if the ground benief my tires didn't cooperate! Letting more air out of my tires always worked!
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Maderita
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You're probably joking, but if you want a serious answer:
Dig under the rear bumper. There is likely a 2" receiver hitch. If so, dig down enough to place a plywood base for the jack. If no plywood, the spare
tire is an option. Lift the rear with the Hi-Lift. Fill in the holes where the tires were. Air down to 6 or 8 psi. Then hope that you have a 4x4 with
a winch. Attach a snatch block to the receiver hitch and run the wire rope back to the winching vehicle to double the line pull (twice the pulling
power, but at half the speed). Dig the 4x4 in using 2WD, then 4x4 so that it sinks into the sand. Otherwise the winching vehicle will slide forward.
Pop the hood up to prevent shackle/wire rope flying through the windshield. Weight the wire rope with a tool bag on a carabiner, or use whatever you
have. Engine running for higher voltage to the winch = more power. Make sure that the stuck vehicle is in neutral, parking brake released. Front tires
pointed straight ahead. If no winch, then a hefty recovery strap. Keep the bystanders well out of the way. Designate a person to monitor that because
there will be dozens drinking beer and sticking their noses into dangerous business.
This is a deep stuck situation with sand filled all around. Particularly bad as the tires are completely blocked with sand and their will be suction
to overcome. It might take a couple winches simultaneosuly or 2, even 3 vehicles with tow straps. Might involve digging down to reach axles for
attachment points. This vehicle is unibody contruction, so there may not be strong attachment points on the sheetmetal subframe. Cross fingers and
hope that parts don't rip loose before this SUV comes out.
I've recovered a few near San Felipe that were stuck this bad. More muddy than sandy. Almost always prefer to rig multiple tow straps to other trucks.
I dislike risking my vehicle by using the winch in a tidal zone or getting salt water on my undercarriage.
This is one situation where an exhaust jack might work well for the initial raising to the point where it can be winched or pulled.
How would other Nomads approach this stuck situation?
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AKgringo
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Location: Anchorage, AK (no mas!)
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Report it stolen?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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SFandH
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Sign the pink slip over to the highest bidder. You might get a couple hundred dollars.
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JZ
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Quote: Originally posted by Maderita |
You're probably joking, but if you want a serious answer:
Dig under the rear bumper. There is likely a 2" receiver hitch. If so, dig down enough to place a plywood base for the jack. If no plywood, the spare
tire is an option. Lift the rear with the Hi-Lift. Fill in the holes where the tires were. Air down to 6 or 8 psi. Then hope that you have a 4x4 with
a winch. Attach a snatch block to the receiver hitch and run the wire rope back to the winching vehicle to double the line pull (twice the pulling
power, but at half the speed). Dig the 4x4 in using 2WD, then 4x4 so that it sinks into the sand. Otherwise the winching vehicle will slide forward.
Pop the hood up to prevent shackle/wire rope flying through the windshield. Weight the wire rope with a tool bag on a carabiner, or use whatever you
have. Engine running for higher voltage to the winch = more power. Make sure that the stuck vehicle is in neutral, parking brake released. Front tires
pointed straight ahead. If no winch, then a hefty recovery strap. Keep the bystanders well out of the way. Designate a person to monitor that because
there will be dozens drinking beer and sticking their noses into dangerous business.
This is a deep stuck situation with sand filled all around. Particularly bad as the tires are completely blocked with sand and their will be suction
to overcome. It might take a couple winches simultaneosuly or 2, even 3 vehicles with tow straps. Might involve digging down to reach axles for
attachment points. This vehicle is unibody contruction, so there may not be strong attachment points on the sheetmetal subframe. Cross fingers and
hope that parts don't rip loose before this SUV comes out.
I've recovered a few near San Felipe that were stuck this bad. More muddy than sandy. Almost always prefer to rig multiple tow straps to other trucks.
I dislike risking my vehicle by using the winch in a tidal zone or getting salt water on my undercarriage.
This is one situation where an exhaust jack might work well for the initial raising to the point where it can be winched or pulled.
How would other Nomads approach this stuck situation? |
Very thorough answer.
My answer would be, go get a tractor.
[Edited on 7-25-2020 by JZ]
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mtgoat666
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It’s illegal to drive on the beach.
Karma.
I would drive by that chit show w/o stopping, you cant fix stupid.
Woke!
“...ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country.” “My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America
will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man.”
Prefered gender pronoun: the royal we
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advrider
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I agree, tractor or excavator! Probably a little to late...
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John Harper
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It's not stuck at all, it's just a hoax.
John
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RFClark
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In the old days (‘70s) when you could drive and camp on the beach South of Pismo (which is West of Los Angeles). Such sights were very common!
The gas station in Pismo next to the beach as I remember it, had a military Wrecker built on a duce and a half chassis. It had a PTO winch with a
hundred or so feet of steel cable on it! For a few hundred dollars and more than a few acerbic comments from the other 4 wheelers who gathered to
drink beer and shout “encouragement”, the “dead Head” driver would retrieve your “mistake“ and drag it back to the paved road in town!
Sadly, those days are gone, but the “stupid” lives on. “Darwin and Murphy” never sleep, “It’s a 4X4! It won’t get stuck!” is as great
a lie as “I’m from the government and I’m here to help you”! Carry several jacks and shovels always! A winch and a deadman are nice too!
Don’t forget to bring lots of beer and water!
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Mulege Canuck
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I have a large come along that a welder made for me. It has a removable 4Ft pipe handle. It has 200 ft of 5/16 Amsteel on the drum and I have a
snatch block I rig up to get a 2 to 1 mechanical advantage. I also carry a danforth anchor that I use as a dead man.
I have only needed it a couple of times but I was very glad I had it. 5/16 Amsteel is rope that is as strong as 3/8 steel cable and moves through a
block smoothly. Great stuff. I would swap out the steel cable on your winches with this product. Buy it at a commercial fishing store. It will be
cheaper there than anywhere else.
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Pacifico
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JZ, I carry the Pro Eagle and have the mount and skidplate from Solo Motorsports. Great combo if you have the room to mount it. I drilled a hole in
mine and added a lock to it so that my jack doesn't walk off. They also make one for the cheaper Harbor Freight jack. Here is the link:
https://solomotorsports.com/shop/parts/general-parts/pro-eag...
"Plan your life as if you are going to live forever. Live your life as if you are going to die tomorrow." - Carlos Fiesta
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Ken Cooke
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Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
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Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
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I carry tire plugs and tire cement in both Jeeps. Dual compressors/Air Tank in TJ and CO2 in Gladiator. The TJ has a Hi-Lift and a Hi-Lift Base.
I'm thinking about buying another Hi-Lift for the Gladiator, but that ARB hydraulic lift is what I really want.
I like to air down my tires to 8 psi on sand and on the trails on both Jeeps.
Pole Line Road - Rich T. plugged a cut sidewall on Saturnino Valdez's Bronco. This went really fast, and Saturnino made it back home to Mexicali that
evening on the repaired tire without incident.
I have only sliced one sidewall, requiring a full tire replacement on the trail over the past 20 years. On a day trip south of Bay of L.A. to look at
the mangrove area, Tom Severin of Badlands 4x4 had to turn back and return to camp after his BFGoodrich AT sidewall was completely destroyed on the
trail south of L.A. Bay. I believe that he also used a Hi-Lift to remove the unrepairable tire on the trail.
Airing up after Calamajue Wash/Pioneer Trail - February 2019. Everyone on the run had on-board air of some type.
Doctor Dave's on-board setup had a special t-split that allowed for continuous pressure at all four tires. He was really proud to show me this system
that he produced for the 'El Imposible' trail run - February 2019.
[Edited on 7-31-2020 by Ken Cooke]
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