Pesky Poop Problem!!

Another shot of the Garage

that is one ugly structure. maybe the birds are trying to tell you something

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Originally posted by Bruce R Leech that is one ugly structure. maybe the birds are trying to tell you something

What do you expect for $10/hr.

Frank has it right, I am thinking-------

lets see, what would look better the bird poop or the chicken wire?

well at least with the chicken wire you could raise some chickens to eat, but you would still have the poop. but it always looks better when it comes from your own birds

Jeez Bruce, I hope you and Bedman are buddies.

I love your idea of having that much elevated deck area, and given the architectural standards of the average Baja community, I think you've done fine.

Clearly, it will be possible to limit roosing space to the railings and the top of the roof. I would look for the least expensive appropriate sheet goods and build a ceiling, and as Barry says, close the gable ends too. Ventilation of the enclosed space is very important or you'll cook your roof covering from the inside, limiting its useful life. I would use gable vents and at least as much square area in frieze block screening. The ceiling may even reduce temperatures on the deck by eliminating the radiation of heat to the living area from the underside of the sheathing.

In the end, it may be necessary to make removable screen panels you can put up when you are away for extended periods, if that is the case, as I suspect you have less problem with roosting when there is lots of human activity around the place.

It looks like a perfect "rest area" for both birds and people!

Another thought: If the deck was waterproof, and I assume it has slope, you could just hose it off as required.

Two cents from the Home Inspector.

What do Mexican birds eat?

It's not the birds he's worried about, Bruce!

Seriously, the device I listed has been put to good use in the Marine industry for years.

Bedman you'll look back later and laugh....

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Originally posted by Roberto Quote: Originally posted by Bruce R Leech all kidding aside I think you need to learn to live with the Birds. after all they were there first. try painting your thing the same color as the bird poop or some thing like that. to do anything to make them go away would be like some one moving to Mexico and kicking all of the Mexicans out. just be glad that you can provide them with a nice perch and a little shade. some food and fresh water would be nice also. good luck and enjoy your new Friends It's not the birds he's worried about, Bruce! Seriously, the device I listed has been put to good use in the Marine industry for years.

It seems that I have built a Seagull - Crow - Buzzard - Pelican Outhouse!!

fish I guess

Bruce,

Are you drinking again ?? Too funny !


Bedman,

1. Careful closing in the gables if there is much wind in your area. Make sure the shole thing won't blow over or lift off from the extra wind force.
2. Once you've closed in or screened the top of your big bird house, they will move down to a less desireable but still satisfactory location on your railings.
3. Walls are the only cure to keep all those danged nature's critters and their poops away.

They oughta learn not to poop an your place, eh ??

slingshot, marbles and a case of beer

live birds don't like to hang with dead birds

Ideas, One and All

It's that "marine" moniker. Take a $5.00 tarp, relabel it as marine boatcover and presto! you can sell it for $50.00

But, you got the point of the link. That stuff works.

Wow Bedman you really have thin skin. It is obvious to me that your construction is built for function and comfort rather than for beauty and structural integrity. it would be my guess that it is on a leased lot, and in that case I would have not done it much deferent. I was just funning with you.

you shuld see some of my projects.

sorry If I hurt your feelings. just trying to liven things up around here .

Bedman - I like it

Be thankful that you are BELOW the border...

...If your 'casa' were up here in alta California, you would now have to hire a consulting firm and file an Environment Impact Study showing proof that you aren't going to 'injure' the poor, disadvantaged, wild life that have been seeking their 'rights' to the shade you created...

This Study would take several years, of course, and cost you well over $100K! Then, in order for you to 'move' the fowl, you would be required to mitigate the situation by erecting an additional, twice-sized structure nearby to allow the birds to roost without upsetting their lifestyle.

If it were me, when nobody was looking, I'd probably use some well-placed buckshot to 'thin out their ranks' and use the free-range fowl to feed the equally disadvantaged Coyotes in the area.......JUST KIDDING, I'd use em' for fish-bait...

On a more serious note, I used to use all those AOL CD's I got in the mail every month to hang on my boat - didn't work after about a week! Tried one of those 'plastic owls' - the birds just used it for another perch to poop on - finally used some transparent fish line hanging around...worked better than any other scheme, and may be you best solution, as it wouldn't be very visible up there under your roof.

Bedman

I don't have a degree in anything but life, and it's really sad that some people can't see the fact that they're insulting even in apology attempts, but I do know a nice looking, hell-for-stout, well-built structure when I see one! As do the birds obviously! Personally, I'd opt for the least visible soultion (fine gauge wire or screening) to enclose the rafters to the roofline, leaving it open to the air, but make sure all the birds are OUT before you secure the last bit in place! I'm with Stickers....don't change the appearance of the open trusses! I'd do the screening on top of the rafters & inside the trusses....I'd use a staple gun inside & close the rafters from above, leaving a small area in one corner to get out of! You could affix that end section of wire/screening to a small piece of wood & pre-drill a couple screws unobtrousively from the outside to allow you to get out, as well as future access.

Good luck there Bedman

I suppose you've now visualized some tangible possibilities. That structure poses a haven as it sits. Changes to exclude the roosters may just move them permanently. Most birds are inherently afraid of enclosed spaces. We all know what would happen should a bird ffly into a similar place with a big tomcat in there!
Hence, I think clever screening maybe a little bamboo & lattice work to tie-in the cinder block. great fer hangin' awesome flotsam and jetsome! Think shade and breeze. Are u going to plant anything tall around it?

Hey, where's a good raptor when you need one.

Would you like a few nuetered farm cats joke intended

Thanks again for the Good suggestions

THE SOLUTION

dose Gatos: In fact a great name for your Mexico Rancho. Two Cats of farel nature. They eat the problem and bury the evidence.

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Bedman:

I have to fess up here. Keicko only looks scary (size) if the truth be told he cuts a wide berth around my baby bird, she's little, but IS scary! More pathetic is that the wild birds will come and dine at the feeder on our deck with Keicko sitting next to it! He gets no respect.

Bruce is right... the place has no structural Integrity. If you look at your picture of the Irvine Transpo. Ctr. you will see a solid wall down one side and steel columns with a partial solid wall down the other, these are providing latteral sheer value that is tided in/transferd from the foundation thru the roof sheeting. your small knee braces at your post to beam connection are inadequate for the wind your talking about. some temporary diagonal bracing is advised until you get that resolved... also a cooler full of beer, slingshots and a sack of marbles sounds like solid entertainment, I think I would start there

steveo, you all ready have my advise so i wont mention it again. did i say pellet gun? o by the way dont use green matt as in this other persons idea, it has gone to the wind if you know what i mean.

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Classic subterfuge post, 4baja.

So, what's the poop?

hook,since we no longer have anything to do with this person i thought that i would let him know in a round about way that his green matt is history because of wind damage and after this hurricane hits us its sure to become a part of the desert. but as usual he takes a stab at me for trying to help so bring in the wind john!!!!! pshcobabble sounds like somthing a babby does and havent heard the term in years. looks like i will be makeing a trip down next week to check out any damage, hope fully my pallapa hasnt blown down. sounds like a good excuse for a fishing trip

Doc said yesterday that a small flap that was a temporary sun shade is flappin in the wind. The rest of it over the slab is in good shape and has survived. If properly anchored it will last years. PS saw your new boat ...it's awsome! looks fast and seaworthy.That being the said, remember the ol saying "what other people think about me is none of my business" You should keep that in mind as there are lots of people that don't care to hang with you either.

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hook, you know what im saying.

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Originally posted by 4baja hook, you know what im saying.

Bedman

After this "John storm" if it's still up it will stand ANYTHING!!!