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Back Roads

bajaloco - 6-4-2004 at 10:50 AM

Does anybody have any info on the road conditions from San Ignacio to San Juanico? We are going down there soon and would like to locate some GPS waypoints for that area. Never have been there so it seems like the thing to do. We are also driving from San Francisquito to San Ignacio and someone spoke of a cut-off road at one time ...any input is appreciated...thanks....GM

Mexitron - 6-4-2004 at 10:57 AM

Never been that way into San Juanico but I recall hearing if the tides are low its faster to take the beach runs because the road's pretty rough in spots--but that info is 10 years old--they may have put a gravel road all the way down by now........I also vaguely recall a jeep getting stuck in that area by incoming tides in the old Baja 1,000 races in the 60's.:?:

David K - 6-4-2004 at 09:19 PM

Bajaloco, I have the GPS for the short cut road between San Francisquito and San Ignacio... it's in my VivaBaja GPS web page. Click on my Baja Index link at the bottom of my posts to find it, on top of the second page. Check out my Baja Notes page as well!

The direct link is http://community-2.webtv.net/thebaja/bajagpslist

[Edited on 6-5-2004 by David K]

bajaloco - 6-6-2004 at 09:13 AM

Thanks David...Now if I could locate a couple of GPS waypoints for the area between Sab Juanico and San Ignacio I'd be a happier camper...

San Ignacio to San Juanico

richard nauman - 6-7-2004 at 05:01 PM

Hey Baja Loco -
I may try the north road to San Juanico at the end of the month (from San Ignacio). I'm not sure if I'll try it alone based on past reports. I'll ask locally in San Ignacio and see what they say. Post a report if you go for it before then. If I go I'll try to get some GPS way points and if you'll be in the area around the end of June or early July I might be interested in teaming up.
RN

bajaloco - 6-7-2004 at 05:44 PM

Richard...We will be in San Ignacio on 6/27. We are going to leave for San Juanico that morning in no hurry. If you are in the area we would welcome your company. Let me know....Gary

San Ignacio to San Juanico

richard nauman - 6-8-2004 at 08:42 AM

Sounds interesting but I think we'll be a few days behind you. If interested in teaming up check at the Ignacio Springs B&B for a red 1990 dodge regular cab with a white canopy (small not a big camper or anything). We are driving all the way from Pendleton, Oregon so its hard to say when we'll get there. We are fully off road equiped with 4 wheel drive, band new toyo 10 ply tires, good attitude, shovel and tow strap. However we don't have air conditioning so heat can be limiting also we go fairly slow as our 3/4 ton has real stiff suspension. Ask Gary or Terry at the B&B in San Ignacio if they have heard from us - they may know where we are. It would be handy to have another truck on that road.
RN

bajaloco - 6-8-2004 at 11:18 AM

We will be driving a 1998 Chevy 3500 4x4. It is sandstone in color, has a shell, and will have two kayaks on top. We will keep an eye out for you. We have to be on the east cape at the first of the month.

Juan del Rio - 6-8-2004 at 02:58 PM

My friend just drove in with a fully loaded truck full of kitchen appliances with no problems. Taking the north part of the road which follows the moutains after the turn off to the lagoon, he said there were three areas you would have to look out for but these were marked with stacked rocks...not a problem to miss if you're alert and not going too fast. Total time on road fron San Ignacio was about 3 1/2hours to San Juanico. From San Juanico, once you leave town, the road has recently been graded and is very nice.
Sorry, no GPS way points to give you, but you can check out more photos and stories on the North road action at: http://www.juanyjuan.com and look under "As the Point Turns".

Hey Juan

jrbaja - 6-8-2004 at 03:01 PM

Is that the way you would recommend going if you are coming from the north ?

Juan del Rio - 6-8-2004 at 04:38 PM

Yes. Just keep following the road close to the mountains. I know of two people who have done it in the past week and they have not had any problems. The Lagoon road is smoother, but the problem is in spots, the road goes off in different directions. They usually end up at the same place, but you always are thinking, "Am I going the right way".
On the north road, you'll encounter a cattle gate near a ranch. There is a rancher who likes to open the gate for you and hands you a worn slip of paper asking if you can donate some money. Most folks I know will give him a buck or two...he supports a family out in the middle of nowhere. If he's not there, simply open/untie the gate, drive through and tie the gate back up. Also, about 20-30 miles past the gate, you'll come to a "T' in the road. Follow the sign/arrow that says "San Juanico" and make a right. If you go left, you'll end up in a canyon...again, it's well marked so you won't have a problem.

Thanks Juan

jrbaja - 6-8-2004 at 04:47 PM

More questions if you don't mind. Do you know the difference in times if you left the gas station in San Ignacio going (the north route) by La Laguna and through Insurgentes ( the south route) and going over the hill from Rosarito (east route)?
I have a funny story about the south route at http://groups.msn.com/TheBajasBestGuidesPhotoAlbum ifn yer interested.
Also, please tell Carlos Fiesta he still owes me some sunglasses!:lol:

Juan del Rio - 6-8-2004 at 05:37 PM

7-8 hours from San Ignacio coming in via Loreto/Insurgentes. South road very easy and smooth. Would not recommend the East road at this time. Reports I have heard is that it is not fun. Will let Carlos Fiesta know about the sunglasses!!!

bajalera - 6-10-2004 at 10:49 PM

We took the road from San Juanico north to San Ignacio a couple of months ago, and it's not at all hard to find--no need for GPS. It's been graded and is pretty washboardy most of the way, but there weren't any places that would seriously challenge a 2WD vehicle.

Lera

bajaloco - 6-12-2004 at 09:09 AM

Thanks to Juan and Bajalera...The info will put my significant other's mind at ease. Hope to see the rancher at the gate...seems like a good place to drop off some baja goodwill items. Will post of the trip on my return..GM

Juan del Rio - 6-22-2004 at 02:53 PM

Had eight vehicles come in from San Ignacio this past weekend and they took the "lagoon" road (lower) vs the "mountain" road (upper) into San Juanico. They all advise to use the mountain/upper route. One was a 2004 VW Eurovan Camper with very low clearence. They made it, but it was a very slow ride. North/upper road has some washboard, but air down and you'll be ok. Leaving San Juanico on the south road to La Purisima; the road crew is still working on it and it has become fairly sandy in several spots. Again, air down and keep the forward momentuem when you come to them...it's having an effect with the cerveza truck getting to town as well!

Hey Juan

jrbaja - 6-22-2004 at 02:58 PM

Do you happen to know Sr. Gury (Guryfi) from C. Consti.? (Gury's Grua)

Juan del Rio - 6-22-2004 at 03:48 PM

I have not met him.

David K - 6-22-2004 at 04:21 PM

Here's Juan del Rio (on the right) listening to Kris 'La Tijereta' (BajaHwy) at Viva Baja 1.


Juan provided lots of sun screen packets he generously passed out to my guests, to protect against the Baja sun, Gracias Juan!

[Edited on 6-22-2004 by David K]

Juan del Rio's web site

David K - 6-24-2004 at 10:16 PM

Almost forgot, Juan's site is http://www.juanyjuan.com which is at Scorpion Bay (San Juanico), BCS.

bajaloco - 7-20-2004 at 10:06 AM

For those who may want to know... We made the trip into San Juanico via the coastal road from San Ignacio. The road is in great shape as of this date. The mud and salt flats are so smooth, they might be the best roads in baja. We simply used a gps and the Baja Almanac to stay on course. There are no signs and there are many forks and side roads to make it interesting. The worst part of the road is south of El Datil, where you meet up with the mountain road. Lots of deep soft dirt and sand. And then bad washboard into San Juanico from Cadeje. If you travel into El Datil, the kids there are crazy for stickers. Bring whatever you can to those people. They are in the middle of nowhere and seems like they don't see travelers often.