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Bond for mainland ferry question..details from our friend added

bajajudy - 7-28-2014 at 04:20 PM

Does anyone know if you have to come back through La Paz to get the bond refunded if issued there?
My friend wants to go back through Tecate.

[Edited on 7-29-2014 by bajajudy]

vandenberg - 7-28-2014 at 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
Does anyone know if you have to come back through La Paz to get the bond refunded if issued there?
My friend wants to go back through Tecate.


Been a few years, but we turned our sticker and paperwork in at the Santa Rosalia terminal. When we came back from Topolobampo the ferry office in La Paz was closed.

[Edited on 7-28-2014 by vandenberg]

bajagrouper - 7-28-2014 at 04:51 PM

Last ime I had to get the refund in TJ , La Paz and Tecate did not have the facilities to refund TIP deposits...Email Senior Fernandez who speaks english and works for Banjercito and can give up to date refund locations......


efernandez@banjercito.com.mx

bajajudy - 7-28-2014 at 05:31 PM

Good info, grouper
Thanks

dasubergeek - 7-28-2014 at 09:10 PM

If he is driving from Mazatlán to the border, tell him to take Hwy 15. 17 km southeast of Empalme is an INM station (10 km east of the south end of the toll portion). He'll need to turn left to get into it and they'll refund his bond there. Tell him to leave the sticker on and let the agent scrape it off. Fun fact: as you head SOUTH on Hwy 15, there's a sign right before that says "End Hassle-Free Vehicle Zone". Makes me laugh! :lol:

[Edited on 7-29-2014 by dasubergeek]

bajajudy - 7-29-2014 at 11:04 AM

Just got this from our friend:

They did ask for my visa card at the vehicle permit section
The cost of the bond is based on the year of the vehicle Vmine was $300 plus $59 processing fee.
You don't have to come back thru the same border to claim the bond back specially like this one because you have to be immediately leaving the country in order to cancel the permit & la paz is nowhere near a border. The Banjecitto offices are about 20 kilometers before reaching the borders & one has to stop there & cancel the permit in order for them to reimburse your credit card. You can pay in cash in US $ & they will reimburse you in the same way at the border it'll save you a few bucks in exchange fees. The exchange rate they charged me was 13.31 which is so high but the lady was so nice I didn't care one bit.

unbob - 10-23-2014 at 04:35 PM

Do I understand correctly - there is no Banjercito in La Paz or Pichelingue ferry terminal?

So if I take the ferry from Topolobampa to La Paz - and plan to exit Baja months later at TJ or Tecate, there's no way to obtain a refund upon arrival in Baja of the vehicle import deposit I paid on the mainland? Please tell me it ain't so!

rhintransit - 10-23-2014 at 05:22 PM

its so, you cannot get a refund in La Paz, or in any city except a border city. Period.

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Originally posted by unbob
Do I understand correctly - there is no Banjercito in La Paz or Pichelingue ferry terminal?

So if I take the ferry from Topolobampa to La Paz - and plan to exit Baja months later at TJ or Tecate, there's no way to obtain a refund upon arrival in Baja of the vehicle import deposit I paid on the mainland? Please tell me it ain't so!

DaliDali - 10-23-2014 at 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by unbob
Do I understand correctly - there is no Banjercito in La Paz or Pichelingue ferry terminal?

So if I take the ferry from Topolobampa to La Paz - and plan to exit Baja months later at TJ or Tecate, there's no way to obtain a refund upon arrival in Baja of the vehicle import deposit I paid on the mainland? Please tell me it ain't so!


There is a Banjercito at the ferry terminal in La Paz.
Only for issuance of the permit and not a refund.

As another said.....you have to get the refund at the San Ysidro border as you exit MX

unbob - 10-23-2014 at 06:17 PM

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Originally posted by DaliDali
There is a Banjercito at the ferry terminal in La Paz.
Only for issuance of the permit and not a refund.

As another said.....you have to get the refund at the San Ysidro border as you exit MX
No refund available at Tecate?

DaliDali - 10-24-2014 at 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by unbob
Quote:
Originally posted by DaliDali
There is a Banjercito at the ferry terminal in La Paz.
Only for issuance of the permit and not a refund.

As another said.....you have to get the refund at the San Ysidro border as you exit MX
No refund available at Tecate?


Nix

bajalearner - 10-24-2014 at 07:30 AM

You won't be near the border anytime prior to taking the ferry?

unbob - 10-24-2014 at 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by bajalearner
You won't be near the border anytime prior to taking the ferry?
Upon arriving in La Paz, I will not exit Mexico until 5 months later at Tecate.

Conclusion: If I take the ferry from the mainland to La Paz and then exit Mexico at Tecate I will not be able to obtain a refund of my vehicle import deposit. That would be at least $300usd down the toilet. That does not work for me.

BeemerDan - 10-24-2014 at 10:44 AM

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Conclusion: If I take the ferry from the mainland to La Paz and then exit Mexico at Tecate I will not be able to obtain a refund of my vehicle import deposit. That would be at least $300usd down the toilet. That does not work for me.


If you are under the 6 month limit on the tvip you can get the refund when you exit Mexico, but also note even if you surrender the deposit you also won't be allowed to import (tvip) another vehicle into Mexico.

unbob - 10-24-2014 at 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by BeemerDanIf you are under the 6 month limit on the tvip you can get the refund when you exit Mexico, but also note even if you surrender the deposit you also won't be allowed to import (tvip) another vehicle into Mexico.
I'm not "importing" a vehicle. I'm speaking of the temporary vehicle import permit required when driving a vehicle into Mexico on the mainland. My whole point here is that I'm screwed if I then take the ferry to Baja - I cannot get a refund if I exit Baja by driving across the border! Thus, taking the ferry does not work for me.

Ferry route to Baja only makes sense if you return the same way - taking the ferry back to mainland Mexico and then driving back to USA. It's then possible to obtain a refund of the temporary vehicle import permit deposit.

[Edited on 10-24-2014 by unbob]

bajalearner - 10-24-2014 at 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by unbob
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Originally posted by bajalearner
You won't be near the border anytime prior to taking the ferry?
Upon arriving in La Paz, I will not exit Mexico until 5 months later at Tecate.

Conclusion: If I take the ferry from the mainland to La Paz and then exit Mexico at Tecate I will not be able to obtain a refund of my vehicle import deposit. That would be at least $300usd down the toilet. That does not work for me.


I didn't make my question clear. You are not coming into MX at a border crossing prior to you going to La Paz? Or you are already in Baja south?

unbob - 10-24-2014 at 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by bajalearner
I didn't make my question clear. You are not coming into MX at a border crossing prior to you going to La Paz? Or you are already in Baja south?
I would be entering Mexico at Nogales.

rhintransit - 10-24-2014 at 12:44 PM

[Edited on 10-24-2014 by rhintransit]

bajagrouper - 10-24-2014 at 12:46 PM

I gave the email address for Banercito above, ask your question there and you should have an answer the next day............Here it is again.......


efernandez@banjercito.com.mx

dtbushpilot - 10-24-2014 at 01:39 PM

You can turn in your certificate and get the refund in TJ, it isn't that far from Tecate, fyi: it isn't at the border crossing but in the same neighborhood. Depending on where you are planning to go in the mainland, you could take the ferry from Guaymas to Santa Rosallia and skip the import certificate all together.

BeemerDan - 10-24-2014 at 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by unbob
Quote:
Originally posted by BeemerDanIf you are under the 6 month limit on the tvip you can get the refund when you exit Mexico, but also note even if you surrender the deposit you also won't be allowed to import (tvip) another vehicle into Mexico.
I'm not "importing" a vehicle. I'm speaking of the temporary vehicle import permit required when driving a vehicle into Mexico on the mainland. My whole point here is that I'm screwed if I then take the ferry to Baja - I cannot get a refund if I exit Baja by driving across the border! Thus, taking the ferry does not work for me.



Ferry route to Baja only makes sense if you return the same way - taking the ferry back to mainland Mexico and then driving back to USA. It's then possible to obtain a refund of the temporary vehicle import permit deposit.

[Edited on 10-24-2014 by unbob]


Notice where I put (tvip) next to import? Forfeit your $$, Forfeit bringing any vehicle back into mainland Mx in the future.
Take the ferry, Don't take the ferry. :lol:

bajalearner - 10-24-2014 at 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by unbob
Quote:
Originally posted by bajalearner
I didn't make my question clear. You are not coming into MX at a border crossing prior to you going to La Paz? Or you are already in Baja south?
I would be entering Mexico at Nogales.


Can you get the car Permiso at Nogales and turn it in in Tijuana when you leave?

There used to be an office in Otay to get/return the car permiso near the Otay crossing but I was there before the new San Ysidro MX crossing opened. So I don't know it the Otay office is still there.

unbob - 10-25-2014 at 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by dtbushpilot
You can turn in your certificate and get the refund in TJ, it isn't that far from Tecate, fyi: it isn't at the border crossing but in the same neighborhood. Depending on where you are planning to go in the mainland, you could take the ferry from Guaymas to Santa Rosallia and skip the import certificate all together.
Hey, that's a great point! I have heard however that ferry is very unreliable. I'll do some research. Thx!

unbob - 10-25-2014 at 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
It is so easy to do online.
Sounds like the whole in person thing for this particular venture is a major PIA.
Do it online... refund will show up after you stop on your way out within two weeks.
Mine only took 3 days and that money was back on my charge card.... at a profit since the peso was down a bit.
Zero hassle.
In my case they would hold my deposit for over 5 months! That makes me real nervous.