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Home Depot, Ensenada...laminate countertop?

rhintransit - 9-29-2014 at 07:12 AM

anyone know if HD carries the pre made, pre cut laminate countertops? to be more specific, if anyone is in there, 8 foot lengths? and cost? okay, I was just dreaming on the latter two questions.
am trying to avoid tying it on top and heading down from San Diego, no truck...

RnR - 9-29-2014 at 08:38 AM

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Originally posted by rhintransit
anyone know if HD carries the pre made, pre cut laminate countertops? to be more specific, if anyone is in there, 8 foot lengths? and cost? okay, I was just dreaming on the latter two questions.
am trying to avoid tying it on top and heading down from San Diego, no truck...


You can now check Home Depot MX items and prices on-line. Just like US Home Depots.

Select your store location and start browsing.

Ensenada Home Depot -

Laminate Countertops

And yes, they have 8 ft lengths (2.4m)

DENNIS - 9-29-2014 at 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by RnR

You can now check Home Depot MX items and prices on-line. Just like US Home Depots.




That is hysterical. The site won't tell you what they run out of. For instance, they sell nail guns, but no nails to fit the gun.
The only resemblance to dependability between US and Mex Home Depot, starts and ends with the sign on the front of the building.

Thanks for the laugh anyway.

EnsenadaDr - 9-29-2014 at 10:53 AM

I know for a fact that Home Depot Rosarito does not carry in stock cut prefab laminate countertop materials, I think they come in 4X8 sizes in the US Home Depot. So I went to the El Cajon Home Depot and they told me they don't carry them in stock. The only Home Depot in the San Diego area that does is the Fairmount Store and their stock is very limited. The sheet runs about $60 USD with tax. I don't know about ordering on line in Mexico because Rosarito Home Depot told me they don't carry them and didn't offer an alternative with online ordering. Neither did the El Cajon store till I got the service girl off of Facebook to ask her who her manager was and only then did he tell me there was an online order option.

DENNIS - 9-29-2014 at 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
I know for a fact that Home Depot Rosarito does not carry in stock cut prefab laminate countertop materials, I think they come in 4X8 sizes in the US Home Depot.


Counter tops come premade in different widths, lengths and patterns. You just cut to fit.
HD Ensenada may in fact have them, but don't be surprised if they don't, or they're out of the width you want.
These things will also warp quickly if left outside in the hot sun, so look at them closely.

SFandH - 9-29-2014 at 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by rhintransit
anyone know if HD carries the pre made, pre cut laminate countertops? to be more specific, if anyone is in there, 8 foot lengths? and cost? okay, I was just dreaming on the latter two questions.
am trying to avoid tying it on top and heading down from San Diego, no truck...


I've seen them in the Rosarito store. "Normal" kitchen counter width, both rectangular and cut at a 45 degree angle at one end. Don't know about price. I would guess a bit more expensive than the US based upon what I have paid there for other building materials.

Bob and Susan - 9-29-2014 at 11:34 AM

rhintransit ...I hope this is not for your kitchen
talk about instantly "dating" it

new products are molded or marbel

DENNIS - 9-29-2014 at 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by SFandH

I've seen them in the Rosarito store. "Normal" kitchen counter width, both rectangular and cut at a 45 degree angle at one end.


That 45° cut would scare me if they're calling it new.

SFandH - 9-29-2014 at 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by SFandH

I've seen them in the Rosarito store. "Normal" kitchen counter width, both rectangular and cut at a 45 degree angle at one end.


That 45° cut would scare me if they're calling it new.


I see it at all the Home Depot stores, US and Mex. It's for making "L" shaped counter tops. And I've looked closely because I was recently considering doing a kitchen remodel myself. I finally decided to hire some pros and I'm glad I did. I'm an amateur carpenter and everything I do looks amateurish.

rhintransit - 9-29-2014 at 01:48 PM

thanks all (and, no it's not for my house)
so the answer is, it's either there, or not.
guess it's gonna be the strap it on top and hope for the best route.

DENNIS - 9-29-2014 at 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by SFandH

I see it at all the Home Depot stores, US and Mex. It's for making "L" shaped counter tops.


Yep.....yo comprendo the reason for the cut, but a pre-cut would limit that particular top to one size cabinet only.

We've always cut our own to fit.

EnsenadaDr - 9-30-2014 at 06:48 PM

Well my carpenter asked me today if I had the laminate to put on top of the new kitchen countertop yet and I told him I was having trouble finding it and had to go back to the US. he told me he had been down at Ensenada Home Depot and they have it down there so I will be headed there bright and early tomorrow morning to pick it up. I need 63 inches so I guess 5 1/2 feet will do the trick. Will report back on cost though it should run me about $60 for the piece.

DENNIS - 9-30-2014 at 07:31 PM

You mean your carpenter is going to laminate the top himself? That's crazy. I used to work in a cabinet shop, and we laminated, but it required large, strong presses. Not just contact cement.
Counter tops are premade....ready to cut to length and go...all laminated.

Oh well...whatever.

EnsenadaDr - 9-30-2014 at 07:39 PM

Well who does these things in Baja Dennis? Any suggestions? Better than having a bare wood countertop, doncha think? Of course I could go the granite route!
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Originally posted by DENNIS
You mean your carpenter is going to laminate the top himself? That's crazy. I used to work in a cabinet shop, and we laminated, but it required large, strong presses. Not just contact cement.
Counter tops are premade....ready to cut to length and go...all laminated.

Oh well...whatever.


[Edited on 10-1-2014 by EnsenadaDr]

Bob and Susan - 10-1-2014 at 05:53 AM

the new stuff is a plastic...hard with a built in sink
very clean looking

home depot has it...go to usa and look

$1800 is the min price installed in usa

laminated countertops are OUT!!!
the kitchen is a very important part of your house
don't "date it" by "cheaping out"

willyAirstream - 10-1-2014 at 06:09 AM

Plastic laminate counter tops, wither pre made or done by the cabinet maker, need to be a "balanced panel". This means both sides need to have laminate. Usually the back side uses a less expensive backer laminate of the same thickness as the top side. This is especially important in hot sunny climates where direct sunlight will be on part of the counter top. The 2 lumber yards in Loreto can order the plas lam for you, vertical or horiz. grade, but the lead time can be longer than expected, so if you have a deadline bring the plas lam with you or bring the pre made CT.

DENNIS - 10-1-2014 at 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Well who does these things in Baja Dennis?


No one I'm aware of. Find a pre-made top and have the man cut it to fit the length. If he goes into a coma at that suggestion, replace him as well.



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[Edited on 10-1-2014 by DENNIS]

EnsenadaDr - 10-1-2014 at 07:43 AM

OK Willyairstream, I am off to Ensenada and will see if the laminate is double sided as you mentioned. This is just to cover the bare wood countertop that the carpenter handmade, and will report back as soon as I purchase it.

willyAirstream - 10-1-2014 at 08:26 AM

the laminate is not double sided. The substrate , plywood, pressboard or whatever, needs laminate on each side. One side will be the decorative plas lam, other side will be a brown laminate, a backer laminate.

EnsenadaDr - 10-2-2014 at 06:07 AM

Well I went to Ensenada Home Depot and I guess the carpenter was talking about the 66 inch by 8 foot prefab counter top which weighed a lot and would no way fit in my car. I assumed he wanted a sheet but I guess he wanted me to buy the whole countertop with a molded edge. There were about 4 or 5 patterns. Everyone and their brother are on Facebook both in the US and Ensenada and so initially when I asked the supposedly customer service guy he said they didn't have it, and I asked him again and he waved his hand over in a direction which took me through a maze and I finally found them. They run 1900 pesos roughly $160 USD but the problem is getting it to my place so I will just tell the carpenter to pick it up for me and pay him for it in advance. DENNIS was right it was not the thin piece of laminate I had envisioned and it was not laminated on both sides, it was a countertop covering with pressed board about 2 inches thick, no angle cut, and a coating on the bottom.

greengoes - 10-2-2014 at 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Well who does these things in Baja


La Bodega on Reforma, a little past Cisco Tile on the same south-bound side, will fabricate Formica, granite or pre-formed laminate tops. They do nice clean work. Just be sure to bring accurate field measurements.

EnsenadaDr - 10-2-2014 at 11:42 PM

I went over a friend's house and they had a beautiful tile countertop. They said all I have to do is put a piece of plywood on the top of the new cabinets and then have someone cut and place tile on the top, seems like a better solution to me. At least you don't have to worry about knife marks in the countertop with a careless teenager around. I like some Talavera, is there any lead paint I need to worry about?

Bob and Susan - 10-3-2014 at 05:47 AM

doctor...your friends are wrong...

plywood flexes very fast and the grout will crack

cement board is what you need...like what is used in a shower
water and moisture resistant

cementboard.jpg - 18kB

DENNIS - 10-3-2014 at 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
doctor...your friends are wrong...

plywood flexes very fast and the grout will crack

cement board is what you need...like what is used in a shower
water and moisture resistant


This is what I used [Durock...brand name] as underlayment for the floor...inside and out.
I used "Greenboard" sheetrock for the shower as well as around sinks.
I've never seen this used for a counter top. Always, as Richard mentioned, sealed pressboard.
For one thing, I've never seen Durock come in lengths longer than eight feet. If it does, I wouldn't want to try picking it up. It's solid concrete.
I suppose Durock would work well for a tiled surface, but for a glued laminate...I dunno. Doesn't sound right

DENNIS - 10-3-2014 at 06:45 AM

OK...I see where tile is being considered. Now, all they have to get beyond is the weight.....3/4 inch thickness...and eight foot limitations.
Buena suerte.

Alm - 10-3-2014 at 08:39 PM

5ft by 6ft countertops in HD Ensenada? Wow. Have yet to see a base cabinet - not an "island" - that wide. HD stores NOB are full of 8ft countertops in normal 2ft width, starting from $70. Yes, some are with 45 degree cut. Easy to install, easy to replace. Looks old-ish with that lip and backsplash, yes. Will outlast many retiree owners.

+$1,800 plastic countertops look like a little ahead of price, from my wallet's point of view :) ...

I saw factories in TJ selling direct - wall cabinets, base cabinets, and sets of complete "cocinas". With laminate tops. They are still manufacturing it. Not too expensive, same price or cheaper than NOB, 'cause they are saving on low production costs. Didn't ask whether it's an "old" or "new" kind with laminate on both sides.


[Edited on 10-4-2014 by Alm]

Alm - 10-3-2014 at 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by greengoes
Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Well who does these things in Baja


La Bodega on Reforma, a little past Cisco Tile on the same south-bound side, will fabricate Formica, granite or pre-formed laminate tops. They do nice clean work. Just be sure to bring accurate field measurements.


This one?

AR GRANITO Y MARMOL
Transpeninsular ( Av. Reforma) 390
Acapulco
22890 Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico

+52 646 173 9950

8:00 am – 6:00 pm

EnsenadaDr - 10-3-2014 at 09:15 PM

I went to Santee Home Depot and the only store that had them in stock was the Fairmount store.6All the prefab cabinet/countertops in Rosarito Home Depots were over $600 USD and very small. I believe the countertops in Ensenada were 2 ft. by 8 ft. I am going to try the tile, the tile guy I called today said he would lay the tile for $700 pesos if I bought the tile. That sounds very reasonable.
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Originally posted by Alm
5ft by 6ft countertops in HD Ensenada? Wow. Have yet to see a counter that wide. HD stores NOB are full of 8ft countertops in normal 2ft width, starting from $70. Easy to install, easy to replace. Yes, some are with 45 degree cut.

+$1,800 plastic countertops look like a little ahead of price, from my wallet's point of view :) ...

I saw factories in TJ selling direct - wall cabinets, base cabinets, and sets of complete "cocinas". With laminate tops. They are still manufacturing it. Not too expensive, same price or cheaper than NOB, 'cause they are saving on low production costs. Didn't ask whether it's an "old" or "new" kind with laminate on both sides.


[Edited on 10-4-2014 by Alm]

Alm - 10-3-2014 at 09:36 PM

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I am going to try the tile, the tile guy I called today said he would lay the tile for $700 pesos if I bought the tile.

He would lay, but will it hold? Like others noted, the underlying surface should be right.

Tile counters look cool, though I myself don't fancy it. Tile is harder, yes, but old style $70 laminate will last decade(s). Grout should be sealed, and tiles do crack occasionally when you're doing something wrong on it. And cleaning it with all those grooves is kinda pain, to lazy me.

"Cool" is a subjective matter too. Those small tiles remind me public washrooms or cheap diners :)

freediverbrian - 10-3-2014 at 09:45 PM

If you have a Lowes near you check it out . A much better selection than HD

Bob and Susan - 10-4-2014 at 05:50 AM

if you tile you NEED one of these...they are about $100

alm is right...grout gets dirty...choose a "correct" color

and it cracks...save some

and seal it

before you say yes to a $60usa install...look at the installers work...you may opt for another installer

tile saw.jpg - 12kB

Alm - 10-4-2014 at 11:57 AM

I'm going to replace a small counter soon, so this topic has been useful.

Though at this point I'm lost - what are we talking about? :)
The OP asked about 8ft laminate counter in Ensenada. HD and another place on Reforma were suggested. There are 8ft counters in Ensenada HD - unknown selection, but there are some. And Dr. went there and confirmed - there are indeed 2ft by 8ft counters there. And there are 2x8 laminate counters in Rosarito too, another poster saw them.

And there should be 2x8ft counters in HD in SD area - I'm not a californian, maybe they really stopped carrying it there, but in my area there is at least half a dozen patterns. And I "think" that 2x8 laminate counter you can carry on roof rack of any car, you only need them to help you load it. So if Ensenada and Rosarito don't have a color that you like, you can pick it up in SD, put it on your car, cover with cardboard to prevent scuffing from the rack and straps,- and go.

Am I missing something?

EnsenadaDr - 10-5-2014 at 12:24 AM

Yeah don't the laminates scratch much more easily than tile if you slip with a knife especially with a careless teenager?

Bob and Susan - 10-5-2014 at 07:12 AM

I hate it when a doctor talks about "slip of the knife" : )