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Agua Verde Road Conditions

ed26 - 10-14-2014 at 02:56 PM

Has anyone heard of the current road conditions out to Agua Verde after the storms?

StuckSucks - 10-15-2014 at 02:11 PM

I'd like to know as well. But worse-case, I'll be there in three weeks to find out myself. Given recent hurricane events, I'd guess it might be slightly abused.

David K - 10-15-2014 at 04:09 PM

There is the other way in, from the west... but it is more likely to take longer to reopen if it was washed out. The north road in should be fixed quickly since that village (or pair of villages) will need it opened.

Kencito - 10-15-2014 at 05:02 PM

The AV road off the main highway is open all the way to Agua Verde, according to friends who live at Rancho San Cosme. The road was out for a couple of days after the rain near AV but locals repaired it enough that it is now passable.

Ribbonslinger - 10-15-2014 at 06:58 PM

We drove that road last year with a large truck and camper. Lots of blind corners and very narrow. I would recommend waiting at a wide spot and have your partner walk ahead around the corner to see if anyone is coming. It would be a dangerous road to have to back up with a trailer or camper given the narrow road width and reduced visibility. If you do that it is all good.

TMW - 10-16-2014 at 07:07 AM

How far is the pavement from hwy 1?

StuckSucks - 10-16-2014 at 11:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by TW
How far is the pavement from hwy 1?


Pavement on the AV road? Please 'splain.

motoged - 10-16-2014 at 12:22 PM

Last year I rode to Agua Verde from the highway....the pavement went as far as the last ranchos' before the cliffside road area...there were some paved sections that had detours around them, and the pavement looked like it was the "first layer" more than a good finished paved surface (maybe a "class b" paved surface is the plan???).

It was easy to see how heavy rains could create some erosion problems.

bajabuddha - 10-16-2014 at 04:32 PM

Jimena took the road OUT. Took 'em a while to make it passable, and when they did, there were some real narrow spots. We did it that year. I'd done it before too, and on a good day and a good road it still has a sphincter factor of at least 3.5 on the 1-to-5 scale. The last time up after Jimena was a +4... and will probably be the last time up. I finally became just too damned MORTAL. And to think I used to jump out of perfectly good airplanes.... my poor Better Half rode almost the entire stretch staring at the floor or the insides of her eyelids. Worth every minute when you get to the old mission. First time there the caretaker/guide showed us the old purple robes the original Fathers wore and gave us the full nickel (5 centavo?) tour.

For first-timers, don't try hauling any type of rig up there. It's a day-trip or 4x4 back-country destination. A truck with a big camper will have moments of HO-SHHHIII..'s at some of the grades and turns. And like all of Baja, worth the experience, even if it is just once.

And take a parachute; the Gigantes are aptly named.;)

Ribbonslinger - 10-16-2014 at 05:22 PM



Pucker factor significantly decreases if don't meet any traffic coming the other way. It is like driving a logging road but you don,t have a radio. Wait at the widespot and get someone to walk ahead to check for traffic

bajabuddha - 10-17-2014 at 10:35 PM

^ ^ ^ ........and that's a WIDE spot !! :O

Ribbonslinger - 10-18-2014 at 06:48 AM

No guts, no glory.

Ribbonslinger - 10-18-2014 at 06:58 AM

The picture shows one of the tight corners you will hit if you drive that road. Having to back up there would not be fun. I waited 100m back from there until my wife had given me the OK to go ahead. Any BC boy use to driving logging roads will have not problems.

ed26 - 10-18-2014 at 03:00 PM

Thanks everyone for the chime in. We're going down in a squared away F250, towing zilch, so seems like we should be able to limp through. "StuckSucks" post again if you do head down, seem like we'll be going in soon there after.

motoged - 10-19-2014 at 04:45 PM

The road is easy....slow down for blind corners in eastern half of road....or stay at Starbucks and think it is a dangerous road...no big deal folks;D

Ribbonslinger - 10-19-2014 at 08:30 PM

Nice. You the man Motoged.

bajabuddha - 10-20-2014 at 03:27 AM

I have to apologize; I wrote my post before my 5 pm martini, so it was in a fit of sobriety that I was thinking of the San Javier Mission road, sowwy.

chuckie - 10-20-2014 at 04:52 AM

I kinda wondered.....

StuckSucks - 12-1-2014 at 04:53 PM

Overall, the road is a non-event: a little bumpy rocky after the pavement ends, but no big deal. I'm happy to have checked out the bay, but that said, I'm not sure I need to go back. This was the end part of our 36-hour Baja 1000 race day, so that might have helped to curb our enthusiasm.

The paved road creates a little dam to drive across:


The view from the summit, looking south:


The road to Agua Verde runs along standing water from recent rains:


Looking north along the coast:


The beach at Agua Verde:


Agua Verde local:


StuckSucks - 12-1-2014 at 04:58 PM

Here's a photo sphere taken after cresting the summit:
https://www.google.com/maps/views/u/0/view/11596559755849069...

And a photo sphere on Bahia Agua Verde:
https://www.google.com/maps/views/u/0/view/11596559755849069...

Photo sphere: think Google Street View. Click and grab the photo sphere and look up, down, around. Go nuts and zoom in and out.

Ribbonslinger - 12-1-2014 at 05:53 PM

Next time go to the San Cosme hot springs.

David K - 12-1-2014 at 06:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by StuckSucks  
Here's a photo sphere taken after cresting the summit:
https://www.google.com/maps/views/u/0/view/11596559755849069...

And a photo sphere on Bahia Agua Verde:
https://www.google.com/maps/views/u/0/view/11596559755849069...

Photo sphere: think Google Street View. Click and grab the photo sphere and look up, down, around. Go nuts and zoom in and out.


Thanks for the 360º view! Just press your mouse button and drag the photo to look all around.

StuckSucks - 12-1-2014 at 06:44 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  

Thanks for the 360º view! Just press your mouse button and drag the photo to look all around.


Da nada. I tired to insert the Google Map iframe of the photo sphere, but no bueno.

TMW - 12-1-2014 at 07:19 PM

Such a beautiful place, thanks.

Just got back

ed26 - 12-7-2014 at 09:53 AM

Hi all, I was the original post. We just got back, and the place is awesome. There are two vastly different places to stay once you get all the way out there. The main beach, which outside of the high narrows everyone has mentioned here, is a simple dirt road out. The other place to stay is a smaller bay to the North. Absolutely beautiful, but a vastly different approach. 4X a must, and no way you're towing something in. The turn off is easy to miss, but you can find it once you map out where you're trying to head, it's just small and (at least at this point) fairly grown over. In the first picture you can see the bay off to the right.

Trying to get the photos to work hope this does it.
Slides

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David K - 12-7-2014 at 10:00 AM

If you would like me to post the photos, email them to me. info AT vivabaja.com and I will happily post them here for you.

If you want to try again, here explains exactly the steps, in the first post: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=65085

Photos from ed26 THANKS ED!

David K - 12-7-2014 at 11:17 AM









Ribbonslinger - 12-7-2014 at 11:40 AM

Thanks Ed. We did not go out there last year. Looks like we should have.