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For the first time, Ensenada is on the list of the 50 most violent cities on Earth

CLathrop - 3-13-2019 at 09:18 AM

Tijuana and Ensenada are in 1st and 34th place on the list of the 50 most violent cities in the world for 2018, according to the Citizen's Council of Safety and Criminal Justice.

March 12, 2019 - It is the first time in the history of the list that Ensenada appeared and it did so with a rate of 46.60 murders per 100,000 inhabitants, a figure very far from lethal Tijuana with reported 138.26 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.

Baja California cities are a part of the historic figures for Mexico on that list: 15 of the 50 most deadly cities on the planet, which represents 30% of the list.

José Antonio Ortega, president of the Citizen Council for Safety and Criminal Justice, presented his report in Mexico City and said that Mexico has five of the 10 most violent cities.

http://www.4vientos.net/2019/03/12/ensenada-entra-por-primer...

JZ - 3-13-2019 at 09:37 AM

Who is this wack-ado who joined the forum just to post crime statistics of Baja. 6 posts and 6 crime story threads.

I wonder if this is what his life's ambition was when he was just a little tot.

Bubba - 3-13-2019 at 09:40 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Who is this wack-ado who joined the forum just to post crime statistics of Baja. 6 posts and 6 crime story threads.

I wonder if this is what his life's ambition was when he was just a little tot.


Most trolls have an agenda, hard telling what the little fellas is.

John Harper - 3-13-2019 at 09:46 AM

Seems like a real cheery fellow. Nothing but bad news to report.

John

wessongroup - 3-13-2019 at 10:16 AM

:):)

David K - 3-13-2019 at 10:22 AM

LOL
If the goal is to keep Nomads away from Baja, it just won't work. Many of us live in the United States, and we are at risk of being robbed or killed the second we leave our home!

If the goal is education, then fine, but how about introducing yourself and telling us where you like to go in Baja. Or, if you have never been, what would you like to find out about the greatest peninsula on earth...???

fishbuck - 3-13-2019 at 11:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
LOL
If the goal is to keep Nomads away from Baja, it just won't work. Many of us live in the United States, and we are at risk of being robbed or killed the second we leave our home!

If the goal is education, then fine, but how about introducing yourself and telling us where you like to go in Baja. Or, if you have never been, what would you like to find out about the greatest peninsula on earth...???


I am onboard with DK on this.
Please post every bad piece of info about Baja that you have.
Thank you for informing us. I will make my own decisions.
I don't care what your agenda is.

sancho - 3-13-2019 at 12:23 PM

Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  

I am onboard with DK on this.







Fishbuck, I'll give you that 1. Just don't go GOP, anti
science on us. Watching LA news is very disheartening,
every nite shootings, stabbing, child murder, pure mayhem,
I would have to agree, unless it changes, I don't fear Mex

fishbuck - 3-13-2019 at 12:35 PM

I waiting to hear from my whales on the science issue I believe you are refering to.

David K - 3-13-2019 at 01:23 PM

I love science and practice it when I go to the same beach for over 50 years and can see with my own eyes that the sea level remains unaltered... But, go ahead and believe those tax-funded government people who need the fear and drama of such hysteria to keep the funds rolling in!

I know things change, nothing is static, but climate changes slowly, over many hundreds to thousands of years. If man was responsible for changing the climate in one or two generations, it would be so obviously different and not just by millimeters.

We had the dirtiest industry in the early to mid-1900s and are now so much cleaner (well maybe not Communist China or other countries) than before. To keep blaming the Western Democracies and wanting to tax the people who live here over this is not only unfair but counterproductive to the goals desired.

willardguy - 3-13-2019 at 01:26 PM

...and there you have it! you knew it was coming :lol:

David K - 3-13-2019 at 01:31 PM

yep, I hate to disappoint! :lol:

norte - 3-13-2019 at 03:18 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
LOL
If the goal is to keep Nomads away from Baja, it just won't work. Many of us live in the United States, and we are at risk of being robbed or killed the second we leave our home!

If the goal is education, then fine, but how about introducing yourself and telling us where you like to go in Baja. Or, if you have never been, what would you like to find out about the greatest peninsula on earth...???



DavidK, your comment about danger is like your science. nonsensical. If you are in danger of being robbed or killed the second you leave your house, your living somewhere other than the USA. :lol:

JoeJustJoe - 3-13-2019 at 03:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Who is this wack-ado who joined the forum just to post crime statistics of Baja. 6 posts and 6 crime story threads.

I wonder if this is what his life's ambition was when he was just a little tot.


Good question, and maybe this is just a coincidence, but a few of us noticed a few days ago, that Chuck, aka Fulano, disgraced banned "Baja Nomad" member, who has intense hatred against Mexico, Mexicans, and Muslims, all his negative Facebook group sites have been pulled,which I have dubbed the "collective," and even his old "hate site" on the regular forum has been closed!

Wack-ado, doesn't even begin to describe this cult leader, and his followers, but the pattern of the negative postings about Baja is unmistakable, but keep in mind, there are a handful of followers that will do the work for their cult master.

In the OT I put out a question for Greengoes, who is an administrator at the "collective" and I have asked him what happened to the "collective sites, and now who is left to warn about dangers of Mexico?

So hopefully, if we are nice, Grengoes, will tell us what happened, and maybe Greengoes will tell us what he and Wooosh, will now do for a job during the day?

David K - 3-13-2019 at 03:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by norte  



DavidK, your comment about danger is like your science. nonsensical. If you are in danger of being robbed or killed the second you leave your house, your living somewhere other than the USA. :lol:


Then, you are living in ... (what is that river that goes through Egypt)?

JoeJustJoe - 3-13-2019 at 04:11 PM

BTW Facebook is down, so expect a lot of traitors, who left the Baja forums, for Facebook, will come back here to get their fix until at least Facebook, is up again.

norte - 3-13-2019 at 04:13 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
BTW Facebook is down, so expect a lot of traitors, who left the Baja forums, for Facebook, will come back here to get their fix until at least Facebook, is up again.



I was just on it. Maybe its just you?

norte - 3-13-2019 at 04:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by norte  



DavidK, your comment about danger is like your science. nonsensical. If you are in danger of being robbed or killed the second you leave your house, your living somewhere other than the USA. :lol:


Then, you are living in ... (what is that river that goes through Egypt)?


Yes sorry for the spelling your, you're, you are....notise yu still culd not adddress the izue tho.

JoeJustJoe - 3-13-2019 at 04:27 PM

Quote: Originally posted by norte  
Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
BTW Facebook is down, so expect a lot of traitors, who left the Baja forums, for Facebook, will come back here to get their fix until at least Facebook, is up again.



I was just on it. Maybe its just you?


It's not just me, but I think it's selective in different places around the world, and while you may be able to sign on, you might not have all the functions available.
____________________


Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp are still down for some users around the world

Timinator - 3-13-2019 at 06:43 PM

From what my buddy told me who lives there, it's the cartels cleaning up the street trash. Something the local police won't do, so they're doing it. Lot's of deaths in the last few months.

mtgoat666 - 3-13-2019 at 06:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Who is this wack-ado who joined the forum just to post crime statistics of Baja. 6 posts and 6 crime story threads.

I wonder if this is what his life's ambition was when he was just a little tot.


Good question, and maybe this is just a coincidence, but a few of us noticed a few days ago, that Chuck, aka Fulano, disgraced banned "Baja Nomad" member, who has intense hatred against Mexico, Mexicans, and Muslims, all his negative Facebook group sites have been pulled,which I have dubbed the "collective," and even his old "hate site" on the regular forum has been closed!

Wack-ado, doesn't even begin to describe this cult leader, and his followers, but the pattern of the negative postings about Baja is unmistakable, but keep in mind, there are a handful of followers that will do the work for their cult master.

In the OT I put out a question for Greengoes, who is an administrator at the "collective" and I have asked him what happened to the "collective sites, and now who is left to warn about dangers of Mexico?

So hopefully, if we are nice, Grengoes, will tell us what happened, and maybe Greengoes will tell us what he and Wooosh, will now do for a job during the day?


Chuck Levitin’s rats fled his sinking ship, explains the new rodents that appeared here trolling with rat turds.

bajaguy - 3-13-2019 at 07:06 PM

The statistics are for the entire municipality, not just the city. A large number of these incidents are occurring in and around San Quintin

Bajazly - 3-13-2019 at 08:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaguy  
The statistics are for the entire municipality, not just the city. A large number of these incidents are occurring in and around San Quintin


Not sure but doesn’t that include Mexicali too? Seems to me I have seen Ensenada municipality come up in San Felipe for some things ive looked at which would be Mexicali as well.

David K - 3-13-2019 at 09:44 PM

Mexicali extends just south of San Felipe and then it is Ensenada all the way to Baja Sur.

The others in Baja Norte are Tecate, Rosarito, Tijuana (along with Ensenada and Mexicali)

San Quintin region tried to break away from Ensenada but I don't think that worked out, or did it?

Bajazly - 3-13-2019 at 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Timinator  
From what my buddy told me who lives there, it's the cartels cleaning up the street trash. Something the local police won't do, so they're doing it. Lot's of deaths in the last few months.



Apparently they have done a good job in Cabo and LaPaz, the cartel that is, these two cities aren’t even on the list anymore, go figure.

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/of-the-5-most-violent-citie...

Bajazly - 3-13-2019 at 10:10 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexicali extends just south of San Felipe and then it is Ensenada all the way to Baja Sur.

The others in Baja Norte are Tecate, Rosarito, Tijuana (along with Ensenada and Mexicali)

San Quintin region tried to break away from Ensenada but I don't think that worked out, or did it?


So it seems Ensenada municipality is by far the largest.

David K - 3-14-2019 at 07:27 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexicali extends just south of San Felipe and then it is Ensenada all the way to Baja Sur.

The others in Baja Norte are Tecate, Rosarito, Tijuana (along with Ensenada and Mexicali)

San Quintin region tried to break away from Ensenada but I don't think that worked out, or did it?


So it seems Ensenada municipality is by far the largest.


Indeed...It is area 01 on this map of the municipalities:

Timinator - 3-14-2019 at 08:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Bajazly  
Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexicali extends just south of San Felipe and then it is Ensenada all the way to Baja Sur.

The others in Baja Norte are Tecate, Rosarito, Tijuana (along with Ensenada and Mexicali)

San Quintin region tried to break away from Ensenada but I don't think that worked out, or did it?


So it seems Ensenada municipality is by far the largest.



Yep, too many desolate homeless don't fit in with their long term plans. Ensenada, Rosarita and up to TJ is a major booming corridor, too much street trash keeps people with money out. They hurts business. You can read in more to it if you'd like, but that's pretty much it.

JoeJustJoe - 3-14-2019 at 09:02 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Timinator  



Yep, too many desolate homeless don't fit in with their long term plans. Ensenada, Rosarita and up to TJ is a major booming corridor, too much street trash keeps people with money out. They hurts business. You can read in more to it if you'd like, but that's pretty much it.


If the homeless hurts business and keeps people out.

How to you explain the success of US cities like San Diego and LA that have lots of homeless? I never seen so much homeless near East Village in San Diego, yet new high rise buildings are being put up, and the homeless just doesn't stay in that one area because they are all over downtown.

In LA they are building and puttting up chic bars and restaurants closer and closer to where the. Homeless live, and this has been going on for years.

BajaMama - 3-19-2019 at 09:29 AM

Baja is a scary place. You should stay home.

fishbuck - 3-19-2019 at 12:06 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  
Quote: Originally posted by Timinator  



Yep, too many desolate homeless don't fit in with their long term plans. Ensenada, Rosarita and up to TJ is a major booming corridor, too much street trash keeps people with money out. They hurts business. You can read in more to it if you'd like, but that's pretty much it.


If the homeless hurts business and keeps people out.

How to you explain the success of US cities like San Diego and LA that have lots of homeless? I never seen so much homeless near East Village in San Diego, yet new high rise buildings are being put up, and the homeless just doesn't stay in that one area because they are all over downtown.

In LA they are building and puttting up chic bars and restaurants closer and closer to where the. Homeless live, and this has been going on for years.


The LA area reached a critical mass of money long ago.
It needs nothing to keep it going anymore.
You can't hurt it.
Alot of people make obscene amounts of money here. That makes it easy to ignore the ugly parts.
But that would not be true without the money and the weather.
People will always come and want to be here.
That only increases with time.

There are a few other places in the world like it but none in Mexico.

Now that I am retired and don't need LA's money anymore... I can barely tolerate it.
And I spend all of my time in Costa Mesa/Newport Beach.
It would take over $200,000 for me to want to live and work here now.
Otherwise it's just too ugly . Literally and figuritively.

I am getting that feel north of Ensenada now about Baja.
But that is what airplanes are for and the freeway in SoCal when it works right.
Just fly on past all that grossness.





[Edited on 3-19-2019 by fishbuck]

fishbuck - 3-19-2019 at 12:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Mexicali extends just south of San Felipe and then it is Ensenada all the way to Baja Sur.

The others in Baja Norte are Tecate, Rosarito, Tijuana (along with Ensenada and Mexicali)

San Quintin region tried to break away from Ensenada but I don't think that worked out, or did it?


That is a great question. The money doesn't trickle down so they wanted more control.
Not sure how that went...

verichip - 3-19-2019 at 12:20 PM



https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/of-the-5-most-violent-citie...
With a homicide rate of just over 138 per 100,000 residents last year, Tijuana, Baja California, was the most violent city in Mexico and the world in 2018, the Citizens’ Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice said.

I am in TJ now, maybe I should go somewhere else.







just too ugly . Literally and figuritively.

I am getting that feel north of Ensenada now about Baja.
But that is what airplanes are for and the freeway in SoCal when it works right.
Just fly on past all that grossness.


Fly to where¿?

fishbuck - 3-19-2019 at 12:29 PM

"Fly to where¿?"

One good spot to another. Create your own Baja.
Only the pretty parts.
Hint: Tijuana is not one of them. (Except for the "butterflies".)

[Edited on 3-19-2019 by fishbuck]

mtgoat666 - 3-19-2019 at 12:34 PM

Quote: Originally posted by verichip  


https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/of-the-5-most-violent-citie...
With a homicide rate of just over 138 per 100,000 residents last year, Tijuana, Baja California, was the most violent city in Mexico and the world in 2018, the Citizens’ Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice said.

I am in TJ now, maybe I should go somewhere else.

just too ugly . Literally and figuritively.

I am getting that feel north of Ensenada now about Baja.
But that is what airplanes are for and the freeway in SoCal when it works right.
Just fly on past all that grossness.


Fly to where¿?



The ‘report’ comes from Citizens’ Council for Public Security and Criminal Justice.
This is a mex org that appears to be devoted to a cause, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the report is a bit biased in putting conclusions before data....
Go look at their website, tell me if they look impartial.

chuckie - 3-19-2019 at 01:45 PM

OXNARD is nice...

del mar - 3-19-2019 at 01:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
OXNARD is nice...


more than just a pretty name.....

fishbuck - 3-19-2019 at 02:01 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chuckie  
OXNARD is nice...


Caught my 1st ever and only California salmon (3) from Oxnard. 2 wild and a hatchery fish. Fish and Game inspected our catch when we got off the boat. 2 is the limit. Gave my 3rd fish to a kid and his dad that didn't catch one. They are a little tricky...
Worth flying to if there is a hotbite for either salmon and posibably white seabass.
Maybe albacore if the have gone north.
Probably not worth it for yellowtail or halibut. Unless a crazy bite for monster halibut. Happens sometimes.
And you would have to pay me to bottom fish... alot.
Probably not much butterfly action there...

[Edited on 3-19-2019 by fishbuck]