Wornout's Off-road Trips to San Felipe sites, on Relive. 2020 & 2021

David K - 6-12-2020 at 04:39 PM

Wornout leads weekly desert trips out from San Felipe and he has returned, posting them on Relive. Relive is an app that shows your trip on a satellite view map and shows any photos you took along the way, as well as your max speed and highest elevation. Interesting if you are into maps or Baja exploring.

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JUNE 12, 2020:

This one was of today's run from San Felipe to 'Hidden Valley' and back... it is all in less than 2 minutes and with music:

Wornout said I could post these here after I asked.

[Edited on 1-4-2022 by David K]

David K - 6-12-2020 at 04:43 PM

Here is the May 22 run to the Slate Mine:

[Edited on 6-12-2020 by David K]

David K - 6-12-2020 at 04:46 PM

May 15 to the Arch near Arroyo Matomi:

David K - 6-12-2020 at 05:31 PM

May 29: Pumpkin Rock

[Edited on 6-13-2020 by David K]

RFClark - 6-12-2020 at 09:04 PM

David how do we find this guy?

CaboHenry - 6-12-2020 at 11:19 PM

Thank you David for sharing those Relive files. Love that Relive app.

chippy - 6-13-2020 at 06:17 AM

That(relive) is so cool:bounce:.

PaulW - 6-13-2020 at 06:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  
David how do we find this guy?

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Find him on Facebook His facebook name is Warren Sundquist.
He used to post on Nomads but now he spends much more time in the desert with his latest companion. Read his posts on Nomad under his nomad name "Wornout"

PaulW - 6-13-2020 at 06:58 AM

Thanks David,
I do not always open facebook to get Wornout's trip feeds.
Sure is a good app, but I don't like the Relive price.

David K - 6-13-2020 at 07:26 AM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Thanks David,
I do not always open facebook to get Wornout's trip feeds.
Sure is a good app, but I don't like the Relive price.

De nada, Paul!

Somehow, I got onto Wornout's email list, so these weekly trip links come to me automatically with his group emails.

Wornout is sort of continuing the tradition of previous El Dorado Ranch desert explorers like our late friends 'bajalou' and Bruce Barber (who wrote a super detailed book in 2003 on the San Felipe desert geology, canyons, and a couple other regions, titled "of Sea and Sand".

A bit over a year ago, when there was a hike to Diablo Canyon, his partner (Kat) who decided to wait midway in the hike and not to go up to the canyon, vanished upon the group's return.

The Relive app is free, but maybe upgrades cost? I loaded it on my phone in 2019 for the Trail of Missions Recon... but I didn't seem to get it fully and the results left a lot to be desired... LOL

RFClark... check your u2u inbox.

Tioloco - 6-13-2020 at 07:45 AM

Cool thread. Glad they are getting out and having fun!

Was there ever any closure on the disappearance of Kat?

David K - 6-13-2020 at 08:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Cool thread. Glad they are getting out and having fun!

Was there ever any closure on the disappearance of Kat?

I do not think there was... vanished without a trace.

I just got an email from Wornout about RFClark's request to contact him:

"No problem, our Friday 'Social Separation' trips are open to everyone. We alway drive more than 6 feet apart. LOL"

PaulW - 6-13-2020 at 04:52 PM

Most of the locals think there was foul play.
No other explanation.
Me - I do not know. I was in the states at the time.

Wornout trips

PaulW - 6-15-2020 at 08:56 AM

Relive by Wornout on his weekly Friday desert trips

Hidden valley
The approach is shown on the Almanac as Arroyo Las Amarillas.
Easy road, but has some 4x4 deep sand.

Slate Mine
He went via L Diablo to Hwy3 at K 159. 31 21.677, -115 17.5
Easy good road

The Arch
At Hwy 5 Km60 enter Arroyo Matomi then he entered Arroyo Las Blancas and find the arch at the end of the drainage. 20 27.64, -114 55.55
Easy drive with deep 4x4 sand in Matomi and easy good road to the arch.

Pumpkin Rock
Hard to find place. He turned off Hwy 5 at Percebu then went to Old Puerticitos road then to the rock. ~30 45.36', -114 47.3' Rocky track. 4x4 for some areas

[Edited on 6-16-2020 by PaulW]

David K - 6-16-2020 at 09:18 AM

Mike's Sky Rancho is next...

Here are some fresh details (June 15) on Mike's, as reported by Wornout:

From what Jere received from Mike, via a phone call this morning is, The Sky Ranch is open, (as is most of Ensenada (their jurisdiction), the pool is clean, there are some fire pits in the camping area and the bar will be open.

Here is the deal (there is always a deal), Jere talked to Mike and received the following information.

Rooms are $70 - $75 per person (Includes dinner and breakfast)
Camping is $20 per car load
Meals for campers wanting meals: $35 per person and it includes both meals

June 19-20: San Felipe to Valle de Trinidad to Mike's Sky Rancho to the Cheese Cave near Ojos Negros

David K - 6-21-2020 at 07:03 AM

June 19: To Mike's Sky Rancho

June 20: Mike's to the Cheese Cave (Cava de Quesos):

PaulW - 6-22-2020 at 07:54 AM

Wornout Mikes via V Trinidad
Mikes to Cheese cave

David K - 6-23-2020 at 08:46 AM

The word 'cava' typically means wine cellar and not a cave (cueva).

PaulW - 6-23-2020 at 11:54 AM

cava turn is at km43.5 on Hwy3. Good signs lead you

David K - 6-23-2020 at 12:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
cava turn is at km43.5 on Hwy3. Good signs lead you

Thanks Paul!
The Ojos Negros entrance is at Km. 39.5, for reference (4 kms = 2.4 miles from that point)

July 3 short trip onto Shell Island

David K - 7-3-2020 at 12:44 PM

PaulW - 7-4-2020 at 07:28 AM

Very low mud level. I guess low tide.

July 10, north beach made of shells + mud

David K - 7-11-2020 at 07:15 AM

PaulW - 7-11-2020 at 08:50 AM

Pretty brave to try to drive along that stretch. Good thing someone had a winch to drag him out.

Ken Cooke - 7-11-2020 at 12:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Pretty brave to try to drive along that stretch. Good thing someone had a winch to drag him out.

There also appeared to be a sign that was ignored. I was stuck in a non-signed section near the Salton Sea and I was buried deep within minutes.

Nov. 13, 2020

David K - 11-13-2020 at 05:28 PM

See Relive video map:

[Edited on 11-14-2020 by David K]

New Desert Trip Dec. 4, 2020 "To the Volcano"

David K - 12-4-2020 at 06:20 PM

Re-Live map moving clip:

Some pics:

[Edited on 12-5-2020 by David K]

December 18 trip to Esperanza Canyon via Diablo Dry Lake

David K - 12-18-2020 at 05:37 PM

Moving map with photos, videos, music:

Jan. 8, 2021 'Slate Quarry' Run (north & west from San Felipe)

David K - 1-9-2021 at 08:45 AM

The Moving Map:

A few of the photos:

Jan 15, 2021 Crazyhorse Canyon (Azufre Wash/ Cañada el Parral)

David K - 1-15-2021 at 06:31 PM

See the movie-map:

Some photos:

Google for 1-15-2021 Azufre

PaulW - 1-22-2021 at 08:52 AM


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Jan. 22, 2021: Run through Clamshell Canyon

David K - 1-22-2021 at 06:20 PM

Movie Map:

1-22-2021- Google Earth

PaulW - 1-23-2021 at 07:49 AM

Shown with notable landmarks

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Just drove Hwy 5 past Km 157 shown on the .KML file and that new road now sports and large locked gate.

[Edited on 2-12-2021 by PaulW]

Jan. 29, 2021: The Lava Loop

David K - 1-29-2021 at 05:04 PM

Warnout and the gang explore the arroyos and passes west of the sulfur mine.

Click here to see the movie map:

Some photos from today's run>>>

Feb. 5, 2021: To Agua Caliente Canyon

David K - 2-5-2021 at 06:48 PM

Movie Map:

The run of interest

PaulW - 2-6-2021 at 12:56 AM

Stopped at the experimental garden
Solar, Well, Cistern, Generator several vege plantings

Garden.jpg - 55kB
Find it on attached .KML file

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More on the hot spring of Agua Caliente Canyon

David K - 2-11-2021 at 06:15 PM

[Edited on 2-12-2021 by David K]

Feb. 12, to the Chenowth Museum (near Rancho Percebu)

David K - 2-14-2021 at 09:21 AM

Moving Map:

PaulW - 2-14-2021 at 11:11 AM

Les is making a destination museum with rooms for rent a bar upstairs and several palapas for entertaining. The pool so far unused and unfinished is impressive. Of course it has beach access with the usual palapas. The plan is to open soon to the public. They still do not have permits etc.
The location is north of the Percebu beach and bar along the inland road.

Feb. 19, 2021 to El Cajon Canyon Entrance

David K - 2-19-2021 at 02:31 PM

Movie Map:

Some pics:

PaulW - 2-20-2021 at 08:39 AM

ElCajon trip with Wornout
See Attached .KML for Beehive

Pics at Beehive

Pics In El Cajon Canyon

betta care


[Edited on 3-15-2021 by BajaNomad]

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David K - 2-20-2021 at 09:42 AM

Thank you so much for adding the photos beyond the road!
Same water tank I saw in 2004.
Did you need to go through a cattle fence in the arroyo?
Great petro photos!
Cañon El Cajon was a major route between the mountains and the sea for the Native people.


PaulW - 2-20-2021 at 11:26 AM

Not much change over the years in this canyon.
I was glad the art was unmolested.
Ron Kinson is the owner of the land from near the ranch to the mountains and he wants the gate closed. It is not locked as it is just for cattle control. I did not walk the fence line thru the arroyo.
The ancient pvc plumbing is functional and filling that tank and filling the next one towards the ranch.

5-26-21 Blue Palms

David K - 2-26-2021 at 06:08 PM

Moving Map:

4x4abc - 3-1-2021 at 08:36 AM

the water tank is in which canyon?

David K - 3-1-2021 at 08:38 AM

El Cajon.

4x4abc - 3-1-2021 at 10:45 AM

the app is lousy - but the trips seem cool.

Mar. 3, 2021 Pumpkin Rock Run

David K - 3-5-2021 at 03:31 PM

Moving map & photos:

Lots of Jeeps on this one... the desert west of Shell Island:

Quarry Quick Desert Run 3-12-21

David K - 3-15-2021 at 06:02 AM

Moving map with music and photos/ videos:

David K - 3-20-2021 at 09:50 AM

Yesterday's run was to Diablo Canyon. Lot's of great photos... I will add some of them and the Relive map later!

Some details for the trip

PaulW - 3-20-2021 at 12:25 PM

Diablo Hike 24 rigs drove and 18 folks walked to the first waterfall. Distance on the picture for the green path is almost 1 mile. The corral path would be slightly shorter. Slow going walking on creek bottom boulders.
The GPS path left of the Green one is garbage due to satellite view in the canyon with close vertical walls. Maybe a few more tenths of a mile distance?
The path via the corral is well marked with fagging. The green path was not used.

BTW, there is a good road bypassing the often locked gated road north side of the ranchers corral. Actually that road is the traditional road before the ranch made a new road with gate. And that road is shown on the Murdock GPS map.

[Edited on 3-21-2021 by PaulW]

[Edited on 4-3-2021 by BajaNomad]

3-19-21, Diablo Canyon

David K - 3-20-2021 at 06:36 PM

Here is the Relive moving map and photos... going only to the end of the road. Poor Wornout needed to be towed!

4-2-21 Sulfur Mine and Apache Tears

David K - 4-2-2021 at 05:57 PM

Watch the maps and see the photos:

A few of the photos:

Apr. 29, 2021: Valle Chico Exploring

David K - 4-30-2021 at 06:26 PM

See the photos and living moving map:

Udo - 5-2-2021 at 03:30 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
May 15 to the Arch near Arroyo Matomi:

David K - 5-2-2021 at 05:51 PM

A recent report I got said the track had vanished going to it, lack of traffic what with Covid and all...

PaulW - 5-3-2021 at 08:24 AM

Relive link works fine - not vanished

Wornout’s Sand Canyon and Park at Matomi 5/20
A favorite drive that heads west from Hwy5 at km54.2+ and has a hard spot shortly after the hwy exit. Then the track proceeds up Sand Canyon to Matomi. Another name for the arroyo km54.2+ used by some folks is “Terry”.
Once in Matomi the route is up Arroyo Las Blancas to its end at the fragile arch. (both tracks are shown on the Alamac). Just south of Matomi are the remains of the dedication event when the area up Las Blanca was dedicated as a notional park called “Canelo”. Named after the prominent peak called Picacho Canelo

[Edited on 5-3-2021 by PaulW]

David K - 5-3-2021 at 09:18 AM

I didn't mean the link didn't work... I meant that the road (track) to the arch had vanished... or at least couldn't be seen, per the report.

PaulW - 5-3-2021 at 09:57 AM

BTW I just edited my post for the local name which is Terry not Henry.

Report from where? I don’t get reports. Maybe because I an not a relive user? Just curious.

The Relive link still shows the track from Matomi to the arch at the end.

David K - 5-3-2021 at 10:03 AM

Paul, I was messaged by a friend who tried to get to the arch. He lost the road but it was raining so maybe that is why. I first understood him to say the track to the arch was no longer visible, but in a follow up, he thinks he just missed a turn it took. He will try again in the future.

PaulW - 5-3-2021 at 12:13 PM

Ah- yes.
The track is faint near the first Y. Keep right and pick up the trail again. The goal is to take the way closest to the hills on the Matomi side.

PaulW - 5-3-2021 at 12:30 PM

Of course the use of a GPS solves these kind of issues

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4x4abc - 5-4-2021 at 12:34 AM

is that track also available on the Relive site?

PaulW - 5-5-2021 at 08:41 AM

Not a Relive person I do not know it they have a downloadable track.
My track I posted is accurate for the arroyos and the way to the arch.

May 7, 2021: Exploring

David K - 5-7-2021 at 07:04 PM

Here is Wornout's notice:
Friday we will meet at the tires, at 9:00 am and head west to the highlands. From there we will head to the chalk quarry and then drop into the arroyo that will take us to the dry falls. From there back out to the highlands highway and head to the powerline. Next head north and explore the arroyos that run west from the powerline.

Relive Moving Map:

StuckSucks - 5-15-2021 at 02:39 PM

While trying to find my way to the arch, I ran into some hail -- eventually the ground was mostly white.

StuckSucks - 5-15-2021 at 02:43 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
Of course the use of a GPS solves these kind of issues

Your file would have been handy. I had the location of the arch marked on my GPS, but did not have a route. At the Y where you head right/south -- I went that way shortly, but backtracked for something headed more west, closer to the mountains.

Oh well, next time. Thanks for the track!

May 28, a short day trip: Desert Tour

David K - 6-2-2021 at 04:27 PM

See the moving map and photos:

Aug. 2, 2021 Looking for Lithium Drilling (Diablo Dry Lake)

David K - 8-2-2021 at 04:36 PM

Just when you thought it was too hot for a desert run!
Relive movie map:

Some photos:

See the observatories at 9,280 ft.?

Ride up the beach to Pete's Camp Aug. 28, 2021

David K - 8-29-2021 at 08:02 AM

Movie map:

PaulW - 8-29-2021 at 08:20 AM

Memories of our long beach walks.

Oct. 14, 2021 West Valley Canyons

David K - 10-19-2021 at 09:39 AM

I may have missed a couple of Wornout's trips... but let's get back to enjoying his movie-map runs!

Last week, his posse of buggies and 4x4s took roads to the entrances of several canyons facing Valle Chico (Sierra San Pedro Mártir, eastside).

The Moving Map and photos:

The Relive Map doesn't give the canyon names, so I asked Warnout...

The first in and out was what we call 'Ball Park'
Second was Tulare
Third was Toledo
Fourth was Medio (we skipped the next one, NMedio (New Medio))
Fifth was Oso

We skipped Cajon cuz that is a run we go directly to since the water is usually pretty close.

That should do it.

His canyon map is attached...

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The Moving Map and photos:

A couple of the photos you will see:

Wornout sent me his coordinates for the waypoints

PaulW - 10-19-2021 at 02:59 PM

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October 21, 2021: Esperanza Canyon Run

David K - 10-24-2021 at 07:29 AM

View on Relieve:

A few of the photos:

Observatories (9,280') as seen from Diablo Dry Lake (1,300').

Nov. 4, 2021: Ram's Head and Beyond

David K - 11-4-2021 at 05:22 PM

Moving Map + videos and photos:

A few of the photos:

advrider - 11-4-2021 at 05:39 PM

Can't wait the get down there and join you guys, looks like fun! Eight working days left until retirement... L

Rams Head

PaulW - 11-4-2021 at 06:36 PM

There is more
Started out poorly when in the heavy dust someone in the line of 19 rigs missed the turn and led the followers beyond the turn.
Did not get to Wow as you see we stopped to fix a tie rod on a VW buggy.
Then when did not get past the north end of OPR when another buggy died with transmission failure (Can am). Took that buggy home on a strap.
Here is the inReach image.

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See how far we were from Wow on this image

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David K - 11-4-2021 at 06:59 PM

What is Wow?


PaulW - 11-5-2021 at 09:41 AM

Many years ago locals exploring with using a 4 wheel ATV for the search to locate a crossover to connect the two branches of Chanate. Back then the ATVs could drive thru the canyon and meet up between the two branches of Chanate at the east end. Then the floods came and made the passage too hard to pass. That place where a big drop off appeared is called Wow. It is now used for a lunch stop place. The recent drive proved to be an easy drive and the big boulders that once slowed us down are buried in the sand. We get there by way of Rams canyon mostly to minimize driving east up Chanate which is race used and a hard drive with deep sand.

Wow is the place with a big drop off. Recently some high lifted Jeeps have found a way around that drop off.

As you can see the two drainages are separate but really close to each other at the western head waters.

I drove my capable Jeep from where the two drainages came together heading NW and came to another obstacle that was to steep and since I was solo driving I declined to try the climb. Now we are waiting to try it again because that steep place will change.

By the way at the east end of the two drainages is a huge Cardon forest that is interesting to investigate.

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Nov. 12, 2021 Pumpkin Rock (near the sulfur mine)

David K - 11-12-2021 at 04:48 PM

Video Movie Map and photos:

El Cajon

PaulW - 11-28-2021 at 11:51 AM

El Cajon Images from 2/21/2021 at the beginning of the thread show the traditional stream and the large water pool at the dam.
As you know El Cajon is a large drainage with head waters way west in the near the ridge of the eastern and western slope of Sierra San Pedro Martir. Last summer it was dry and hot.
Yesterday 11/27/2021 the scene is vastly different. I walked up the streambed and there was no sign of any moisture. Passing by the ranch we noted the cattle are in a large corral for feeding and they are using a large water truck for their water source. Looked like they were feeding from the troughs. So, they must be bringing in the cattle food as well. The open desert has hardly anything for cattle to eat.
I have never seen that canyon dry as it is now and have been visiting it for 20 years.
Here are a couple of images

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Same images from 2/2021

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David K - 11-28-2021 at 12:01 PM

Interesting. I like seeing the old vs new photos.
Once it snows on the sierra and that melts, the water will again flow to the desert.

My El Cajon Canyon photos from April 2004:

4x4abc - 11-28-2021 at 12:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Just when you thought it was too hot for a desert run!
Relive movie map:

where is Rancho de la Vaca Loca?

David K - 11-28-2021 at 10:32 PM

Since Wornout doesn't post much anymore, I will email him and ask for you, Harald.

4x4abc - 11-28-2021 at 11:53 PM

looks like his house

David K - 11-29-2021 at 08:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  
looks like his house

Wornout's answer: Yes, that is my house alright

4x4abc - 11-29-2021 at 10:02 AM

sweet design

December 3 "Fun Adventure" Along the edge of the salt flats.

David K - 12-5-2021 at 09:45 AM

Moving Map with video clips and photos along the way:

A couple of the photos you will see:

David K - 12-6-2021 at 10:47 PM

Next Friday, Wornout is going to lead the caravan to a place they call the 'volcano', south of San Felipe.

Dec. 10, 2021: Volcano (west of the sulfur mine)

David K - 12-12-2021 at 08:42 AM

Moving Map with photos and video:

A few of the photos:

Dec. 17, 2021: Agua Caliente Canyon drive

David K - 12-19-2021 at 07:08 AM

Watch and listen:

Some of the photos shown:

[Edited on 1-3-2022 by David K]

December 30, 2021: Crazy Horse Canyon (Cañada el Parral, 'Azufre Wash')

David K - 1-2-2022 at 05:19 PM

See Wornout's last desert tour of 2021.

Movie Map:

PaulW - 1-3-2022 at 07:49 AM

Some Geography
For those not familiar with Canyon Crazy Horse. It is the canyon on the official maps labeled Parral and called Azufre by folks racing or following the SCORE events.
The western headwaters of the Parral drainage is just west of Rancho Parral (ab) just below the divide which constitutes the drainage between west an east Baja. From Rancho Parral the drainage passed thru valley Chico. The east part is labeled Agua de Chale ending up at the coast at Nuevo Mazatlan.
The name Crazy Horse dates from the days when Bruce Barber and Lou Wells were leading many desert trips. I never found out the reason for the name.
The west end of Cxanyon Parral lies between Canyon Matomi to the south and Canyon Berrendo and Canyon Carrizo to the north.

David K - 1-3-2022 at 08:39 AM

The Azufre Wash/ Crazy Horse part was poorly named 'Parral' after the canyon north of Matomí... The drainage from that canyon goes into Valle Chico and then north to join Arroyo Huatamote and then out to sea near Punta Estrella/ Punta Diggs.

I first called Crazy Horse: 'Santa Rosa Canyon' when I discovered the abandoned road, south of the sulfur mine, back in December of 1978. One old map called the mountains behind the sulfur mine 'Sierra Santa Rosa'.
I think I recall Bruce naming it 'Crazy Horse' because of all the twists and turns in there? Newer maps now apply the Sierra Santa Rosa name to a small ridge north of the Sulfur mine and the rest as 'Sierra San Felipe'.

The road (Valle Chico to the Sulfur Mine) was mentioned in the 1967 edition of Camping and Climbing in Baja (but not later editions) and shown on the 1971 Geology Map. I soon began searching for it!

Once I found the route across to Valle Chico (and did some rock moving to get my Subaru through!), I used it often. Eventually, Score used it and the AAA map showed part of it.

Here it is on my 1982 map (Hwy. 5 roadbed was under construction beyond Coloradito):

Before the 'Huatamote' name was used, older maps called it Arroyo Agua Caliente, so I used that name on mine.

[Edited on 1-3-2022 by David K]

PaulW - 1-3-2022 at 11:08 AM

The confusion about the Parral drainages led to the creation of the name Azufre.
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DK wrote: "The Azufre Wash/ Crazy Horse part was poorly named 'Parral' after the canyon north of Matomí... The drainage from that canyon goes into Valle Chico and then north to join Arroyo Huatamote and then out to sea near Punta Estrella/ Punta Diggs."

Yes of interest on INEGI H11B57/67:
It gets a lot more complicated
*-*Huatmote does drain the south end of the large lakebed, and from Parral all the way from the west through V Chico. The coast end of Huatamote sure enough hits the coast (and includes Don Pancho and/or Parra), several miles south of Estrella/Diggs.
The water flow to the coast via Huatamote varies dependent on the the rains.
(1) Sometimes the water gets into Huatamote via Parral and,
(2) sometimes from the drainage from the lakebed to the west (That drainage from the lakebed is no longer passable by vehicle after Nora).
(3) Or both (1 & 2) drainages at the same time.
(4) And sometimes from ‘Azufre’/Parral/Chale.
Huatamote has another label west of v Chico called Novillo. Another corruption of the real Huatamote label. H11B66

*-*Parral also drains into the ‘Azufre’ wash via V Chico where it becomes Parral/Chale then to the coast at Mazatlán.
(1) Sometimes Parral drainage flows into Huatamote via a northern canyon (no official name),
(2) and sometimes it continues east using the ‘Azufre’ path (Parral/Chale),
(3) sometimes both.
All these canyons flow during significant rains. The north canyon from ‘Azufre” to Huatamote has not been driven to my knowledge.

If you understand the above it becomes clear why a new name was desired to define ‘Azufre” for driving purposes.

Regarding Santa Rosa
Never saw a repeat of the mountains or canyon so I have always ignored the reference. Not shown on any of the new or old INEGI maps.

Agua Caliente or Huatamote?
Agua Caliente and Berrendo fade to comingle into Parral, the major drainage. Thus, I guess since Parral becomes part of Huatamote that would explain the confusion of calling Huatamote as Agua Caliente. Verified on H11B66 from before your travels.

PaulW - 1-3-2022 at 11:37 AM

It is a plant. Common in Baja
Named for a Baja bush. "Seep Willow [huatamote] (Baccharis glutinosa)". See baccharis glutinosa seep willow Guatamote (Huatamote)? The plant is used as a traditional medicine.
There is another Arroyo with the same name in Baja Sur and many places in Baja use the name Huatamote.

David K - 1-3-2022 at 01:33 PM

Quote: Originally posted by lencho  
Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
It is a plant. ... Guatamote (Huatamote)?

Thanks; makes sense-- a lot of Spanish speakers indiscriminately interchange initial /b/g/h (consider "buey" and "güey").

The government map spell checkers in Mexico City didn't care to change it, for some reason?

David K - 1-3-2022 at 07:30 PM

I tend to prefer historic spellings, and Little Santa Rosalía was spelled Rosalillita... I have yet to see a Spanish place with a double i in its spelling (Rosaliita).

Before the mid-1900s, it was Santa Rosalía Point and Bay... but with the copper town such a big deal, down the road, it was decided to change the name of the less inhabited fishing camp.

The Santa Inés to Santa Ynez thing was purely the ranch owner's preference. All the variations are purely people errors: Inez, Ynes, Innes, etc. It is common to use a Z instead of an S if the word has an accent, for gringo books: Cortés to Cortez.

David K - 1-4-2022 at 09:44 AM

So far, the Mexican highway spelling is the traditional Rosalillita...

Santa Rosalillita.jpg - 137kB

David K - 1-8-2022 at 08:24 AM

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