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Best GPS for Baja

dutra - 9-10-2020 at 12:58 PM

New member here. Last time down in Baja my phone was not getting service past Mexicali and again past San Felipe. My question is what is the best GPS device to use driving Baja? And will the GPS work the entire time? Thanks!

AKgringo - 9-10-2020 at 01:17 PM

First thing, welcome to the forum! Let me be the first to give you outdated advice, direct from a fossil that still uses an automotive GPS.

Both TomTom, and Garmin automotive units work all over Baja. The tracking sometimes will show my location is near, but not on the road, and even with the latest updates installed they both get things like one way streets wrong!

I am looking into getting a Garmin IN reach (sp?) which I understand will feed a tablet, or phone, but a technophobe like me is reluctant to change!

[Edited on 9-10-2020 by AKgringo]

David K - 9-10-2020 at 01:21 PM

Hi dutra, welcome!
GPS is great anywhere under the sky, but what you were using was a cell phone to access a mapping service. No good where there is no cell coverage (most of Baja) or as you found out (Sprint?), no good on the frequency used in parts of Baja.

dutra - 9-10-2020 at 01:24 PM

Thanks AK!

I don't even have a tabley just the iphone! Looking to get a GPS for the truck. Mainly to keep me going the right way on the main highways.

[Edited on 9-10-2020 by dutra]

Lowrance

John M - 9-10-2020 at 01:27 PM

Lowrance is what we use. Satellite network enables it to be right on the money. Almost all race vehicles use that manufacturer - though the models they use are high buck.

Like AKgringo, our stuff is is old - got it in 2006 but it's still working fine.

It's not a hand held, it needs to find a home in the vehicle, it doesn't talk to us, no turn by turn stuff - we use it almost exclusively for off pavement route finding.

John M

dutra - 9-10-2020 at 01:30 PM

Thanks John!

David K - 9-10-2020 at 01:30 PM

Maybe my maps will be more easy to use than a GPS? They are all posted in the Road Conditions forum, here on Nomad: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=88771

I also have shared 3 sections of the 6, from my yet-to-be published road guide (damn Covid-19)!

These include all the side road logs, as well...

San Quintín to Guerrero Negro:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=91898

Guerrero Negro to San Ignacio:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=92377

Mexicali to Laguna Chapala (Hwy. 1 jcn.):
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=95028

John Harper - 9-10-2020 at 01:33 PM

Gaia app for your phone. You can download maps and use offline.

John

KILOMETER MARKERS

David K - 9-10-2020 at 01:35 PM

All of Baja's paved roads and a few graded dirt ones are pretty well marked with kilometer signs every kilometer. They really help you to find side roads or services mentioned in the guide. Nomads TMW (Tom) and I plus other's have created a pretty complete Baja Kilometer List. See it here (in the Road Conditions forum): http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=81948


dutra - 9-10-2020 at 01:37 PM

Thanks David that looks really good.

John Harper, I'm looking to get something with real time directions.

mtgoat666 - 9-10-2020 at 01:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by dutra  
Thanks AK!

I don't even have a tabley just the iphone! Looking to get a GPS for the truck. Mainly to keep me going the right way on the main highways.


if all you want is hwy navigation and navigation in towns/cities, then I would use waze, google maps, etc., on my phone when in cell coverage, and use paper map when out of range of cell towers.

AKgringo - 9-10-2020 at 01:44 PM

I liked using my TomTom XXL550, it was user friendly. I am not sure if it can even be updated anymore, since I went to a Garmin Drivesmart 70.

The seven inch screen is nice, and it does talk to me! It is kind of funny hearing it mangle some spanish words, but it is nice to know when I am speeding or approaching a turn.

You still need a map to know when to ignore the Garmin when it wants to send you through business districts or toll roads you may not want to take.

dutra - 9-10-2020 at 01:51 PM

Ak, So the garmin drivesmart 70 will show you turns while driving baja?

Thanks guys I really appreciate the help!

StuckSucks - 9-10-2020 at 01:53 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Gaia app for your phone. You can download maps and use offline.

John


THIS is the only answer. Works with your phone's built-in GPS, so it works anywhere. Pre-load background maps for off-line use, such as topos or satellite imagery.

advrider - 9-10-2020 at 02:10 PM

Agreed, your phone with a GPS app, that's all I use on my bike in Mexico. Your phone will use satellites and doesn't need service, the old phone I use doesn't even have a sim card.
I use OSM app on my Android phone but you could also get a tablet if you want a big screen. Much easier and user friendly then any GPS out there. You can down load sections of google maps and still get turn by turn when not in a service area. YouTube can show you how to do it all.

JZ - 9-10-2020 at 03:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by dutra  
New member here. Last time down in Baja my phone was not getting service past Mexicali and again past San Felipe. My question is what is the best GPS device to use driving Baja? And will the GPS work the entire time? Thanks!


I've had a half dozen standalone GPS over the years.

That stopped several years back when GPS apps on phones became so good. They are way better than a GPS from the Garmins of the world now.

The two best apps are Gaia and Back Country Navigator. BCN is Android only, except maybe their newest app is both.

Dedicated GPS really only make sense now for boats, where they have integration with depth/sounding, fish finders, and radar.


JZ - 9-10-2020 at 03:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


if all you want is hwy navigation and navigation in towns/cities, then I would use waze, google maps, etc., on my phone when in cell coverage, and use paper map when out of range of cell towers.


For hwy, yes you use Google Maps. Even when you are out of cell coverage you use it. Google Maps lets you download maps for Baja for offline use. It takes like 2 mins. No need for paper maps.


JZ - 9-10-2020 at 03:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by dutra  
Ak, So the garmin drivesmart 70 will show you turns while driving baja?

Thanks guys I really appreciate the help!


Use Google Maps for hwy driving.

Use Gaia or Back Country Navigator for dirt roads.

Start another thread if you want way points or tracks to a specific location. Ppl on here have hundreds of them.


mtgoat666 - 9-11-2020 at 05:32 AM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by John M  
Lowrance is what we use. Satellite network enables it to be right on the money. Almost all race vehicles use that manufacturer - though the models they use are high buck.

Like AKgringo, our stuff is is old - got it in 2006 but it's still working fine.

It's not a hand held, it needs to find a home in the vehicle, it doesn't talk to us, no turn by turn stuff - we use it almost exclusively for off pavement route finding.

John M


Why on Earth would you promote this to the op, or even use tech that is 15-20 years old? That is before the very first iPhone hit the market.

This explains a lot of your posts over the last 6 months. A total disconnect from what is happening in the world right now.


The man-child has spoken!

Why Lowrance?

John M - 9-11-2020 at 05:35 AM

JZ - the simple answer on why I continue to use the Lowrance GPS for off-road routes is because it works. Lowrance technology works well for many of the race teams that continue using it today.


Specifically for JZ - thanks for taking the time to analyze my posts for the past six months. I can scarcely recall what I did a month ago - maybe I need to pay more attention to what I've posted in the past.

John M



PaulW - 9-11-2020 at 07:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by dutra  
New member here. Last time down in Baja my phone was not getting service past Mexicali and again past San Felipe. My question is what is the best GPS device to use driving Baja? And will the GPS work the entire time? Thanks!

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Some basic decisions need to be made
Like
Baja only or Baja & USA?
Do you want to make trails and share them or just view where you are on the device map?
Now days stand alone GPS devices are less in favor and phones and tablets are the most favored.

For a stand alone GPS that makes trails Garmin is popular with the Montana leading the list -expensive. works everywhere you are.
For a new person to GPS follow the advice already written about.
What I use is a vintage Lowrance that cannot be found these days I has the best maps available for Baja and poor maps for the USA and they make trails.
I also use an 8" android tablet which works for Google maps, Maps.me, Earthmate/InReach, and many others recommended by others. Unlike the Lowrance a tablet/Iphone apps will work in the US and Baja with appropriate downloaded maps.
And yes I still have My iphone with the same apps to use as needed.
To repeat bigger is better.
Let me close to remind you that in Baja you cannot depend on cell service so choose an app the works with self contained maps for offline use.
Example Google maps can be loaded for offline map use (and Google Translator can be loaded for offline use). Other apps mentioned can also be used without cell service. Choose one and ask.
Learn how to use your choice before you head south especially if you can find a test place with no cellular service.

JZ - 9-11-2020 at 12:05 PM

Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  

Learn how to use your choice before you head south especially if you can find a test place with no cellular service.


Yes, test before your Baja trip. This is good advice.

To test w/o cell service, just put your phone in airplane mode.


TMW - 9-11-2020 at 12:27 PM

You don't need to over think this. A GPS that has Baja highways in it will work all over Baja and it will have the major dirt roads that are used by the public on a normal basis. If you want dirt roads and trails you'll need to load an app that has them like CartoGrafia.

Most race teams use a Lowrance that's used for fishing and modified for their use. They have a large screen making it easier to see.

I use a simple Garmin NUVI 52 I bought on ebay. I'm old school so I don't need a lot new fancy stuff. I've been all over Baja off road and I don't mind getting lost. I would recommend a GPS of your choosing, David's maps loaded or in paper form and a Baja Almanac.

David K did a number of maps with KM markers that is a good reference when driving in Baja.

If you have a particular place you want to go off road I suggest you view it on Google Earth to get an ideal of the trails in and out. Another source of maps is www.murdocknav.com/index.htm it contains a lot of race maps from way back to present. I don't recall for sure but it may also have the course notes.

Have fun and stay safe.

[Edited on 9-11-2020 by TMW]

elgatoloco - 9-11-2020 at 01:12 PM

Quote: Originally posted by dutra  
Thanks AK!
Mainly to keep me going the right way on the main highways.

[Edited on 9-10-2020 by dutra]


Point truck south to go down and point it north to head home. :biggrin:

dutra - 9-11-2020 at 01:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  

Learn how to use your choice before you head south especially if you can find a test place with no cellular service.


Yes, test before your Baja trip. This is good advice.

To test w/o cell service, just put your phone in airplane mode.



Just looking for Baja only, I don't care if I get lost in the US lol. Thanks guys for the replies. I think I got it covered with HERE app. Had no idea that the maps will work with airplane mode on.

chippy - 9-11-2020 at 02:40 PM

Another option is a garmin loaded with e 32 maps http://cartografiagps.com/en/
Excelent for all of Mexico.

I see TMW mentioned cartografia before me. Anyway this is a great app. I upgraded my old nuvi to a large screen drivesmart and couldn´t be happier.


[Edited on 9-11-2020 by chippy]

defrag4 - 9-11-2020 at 03:17 PM

google maps is sufficient if you have service or remember to download the map ahead of time

maps.me app for offline turn-by-turn mapping (again download the map ahead of time)

gaia GPS for offline offroad navigation

[Edited on 9-11-2020 by defrag4]

David K - 9-11-2020 at 04:57 PM

I downloaded (free) Gaia into my Android phone and the maps looks really nice, the GPS picked me up fine. Now, with Nomad help, I will try to figure out how to download sat imagery for the areas of Baja that interest me to explore.

There is still a 1541 Spanish Captain buried somewhere in the desert!

https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/searchin...

JZ - 9-11-2020 at 06:28 PM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I downloaded (free) Gaia into my Android phone and the maps looks really nice, the GPS picked me up fine. Now, with Nomad help, I will try to figure out how to download sat imagery for the areas of Baja that interest me to explore.

There is still a 1541 Spanish Captain buried somewhere in the desert!

https://www.bajabound.com/bajaadventures/bajatravel/searchin...


Here is how they say to do it. https://youtu.be/xaM39xMqpwU

Looks like this might be a little more involved to get a very large area compared to Back Country Navigator.

For BCN I have satellite imagery for all of Baja at the max zoom. Satellite is much better than topos.







[Edited on 9-12-2020 by JZ]

JZ - 9-11-2020 at 06:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by dutra  


Had no idea that the maps will work with airplane mode on.



You have to download the maps ahead of time to use when you don't have cell service.


advrider - 9-11-2020 at 06:49 PM

E-32 maps are some of the best I have used. I have a Garmin 650 with E-32 maps that I use along with my phone. The way the E32 maps shade the roads make it nice to use on bike.
I still have a hell of a time loading routes on my Garmin, but not an issue with the phone. As many have said decide what you are going to use and figure it out while you are home.
I will tell you that the learning curve for a phone app is much smaller then Garmin any day of the week.

John Harper - 9-12-2020 at 05:20 AM

Don't you have to subscribe to GAIA to download maps? I've tried, but it when I hit "Download Maps" it goes to a subscription screen. I seem to only have the basic GAIA Topo and to download other sources, again the subscription page comes up.

On Google Maps, you can download maps without a membership fee.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. It happens. Just be aware you may need to subscribe to get what you need.

John

[Edited on 9-12-2020 by John Harper]

David K - 9-12-2020 at 08:00 AM

I think you are right, John.
On advice from another Nomad map guru, I loaded the Gaia app onto my phone... the free version. The topo maps and GPS location spotting seems perfect... but when trying to upload satellite imaging, nada trabaja! I am only just learning to use it, however.

John Harper - 9-12-2020 at 08:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by David K  
I think you are right, John.
On advice from another Nomad map guru, I loaded the Gaia app onto my phone... the free version. The topo maps and GPS location spotting seems perfect... but when trying to upload satellite imaging, nada trabaja! I am only just learning to use it, however.


Yes, I think so too, Dave. My buddy has GAIA on his phone, and he swears he did not subscribe but has apparently downloaded other maps (FS Topo) than just the Gaia Topo that comes standard. I'll try to find out more next time I see him. Every time I try to access another map source it just goes to the subscription screen.

I mapped a dayhike in the Sierra in July. It did not overlay the topo map until I got cell service (or wifi) access. It did log my route, but just a blue line on a blank screen. It did log mileage and elevation changes quite well.

John

[Edited on 9-12-2020 by John Harper]

BajaMama - 9-12-2020 at 04:20 PM

I have an ancient Garmin Nuvi that I have used all over Baja and all over the Yucatan. We splurged and bought the lifetime map updates for Mexico and it works really well. Saved my butt first time I crossed north at Mexicali East when it turned out Discover Baja maps/directions were outdated. Dirt roads show up, too. Another thing I find that works well with the Garmin is to zoom in as close as possible on Google Earth to a location I am traveling to and enter the GPS coordinates into the Garmin.

[Edited on 9-12-2020 by BajaMama]

JZ - 9-12-2020 at 04:58 PM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I have an ancient Garmin Nuvi that I have used all over Baja and all over the Yucatan. We splurged and bought the lifetime map updates for Mexico and it works really well. Saved my butt first time I crossed north at Mexicali East when it turned out Discover Baja maps/directions were outdated. Dirt roads show up, too. Another thing I find that works well with the Garmin is to zoom in as close as possible on Google Earth to a location I am traveling to and enter the GPS coordinates into the Garmin.

[Edited on 9-12-2020 by BajaMama]


I've had many Garmins. Times change. Technology improves. Avoiding getting stuck in the past keeps one from growing old before their time.

chippy - 9-12-2020 at 05:14 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I have an ancient Garmin Nuvi that I have used all over Baja and all over the Yucatan. We splurged and bought the lifetime map updates for Mexico and it works really well. Saved my butt first time I crossed north at Mexicali East when it turned out Discover Baja maps/directions were outdated. Dirt roads show up, too. Another thing I find that works well with the Garmin is to zoom in as close as possible on Google Earth to a location I am traveling to and enter the GPS coordinates into the Garmin.

[Edited on 9-12-2020 by BajaMama]


Hey jz have you ever checked out e32 maps? You might want to quit bashing garmin if you haven´t? I now use BCN thanks to you but its not the only game in town. Having both is 2x better.

I've had many Garmins. Times change. Technology improves. Avoiding getting stuck in the past keeps one from growing old before their time.

JZ - 9-12-2020 at 05:20 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chippy  

Hey jz have you ever checked out e32 maps? You might want to quit bashing garmin if you haven´t? I now use BCN thanks to you but its not the only game in town. Having both is 2x better.


Bought the e32 maps like 10-15 years ago.

All the major dirt roads are in BCN and Gaia. For the less traveled ones, it's better to use your own collection of tracks.

Sorry, these standalone GPS's only make sense for boats. One boats they are integrated with depth and fish finders, and radar systems. Plus they have really bright screens for bright sunlight. Otherwise they are dinosaurs.

My thing is I don't think it's good to suggest to ppl just getting into this to use this older tech. I would never tell someone to use a 4 year old Phantom 3 drone, let alone a 10 yo GPS. Especially when a phone app is like $15 vs. hundreds of $'s for a standalone GPS + the maps.



[Edited on 9-13-2020 by JZ]

chippy - 9-12-2020 at 05:28 PM

To each his own amigo. I´m very happy with what I use now and thanks again for walking me thru BCN.

mtgoat666 - 9-12-2020 at 07:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by JZ  

All the major dirt roads are in BCN and Gaia. For the less traveled ones, it's better to use your own collection of tracks.

Sorry, these standalone GPS's only make sense for boats. One boats they are integrated with depth and fish finders, and radar systems. Plus they have really bright screens for bright sunlight. Otherwise they are dinosaurs.

My thing is I don't think it's good to suggest to ppl just getting into this to use this older tech. I would never tell someone to use a 4 year old Phantom 3 drone, let alone a 10 yo GPS. Especially when a phone app is like $15 vs. hundreds of $'s for a standalone GPS + the maps.


Jizzy, you are a 13-year-old boy stuck in a middle-aged man’s short body :P
When I go away on vacation, I ditch the technology. Technology is for work. Why ruin a vacation staring at a screen? :?:
When I go to baja, I use a paper map. In cities I sometimes use my phone to navigate. Once in a rare while I might use gps for bushwhacking in the backcountry, but only if paper map reading fails.
My iPhone is a 6, it fits in my pocket (my wife has the latest iPhone, it does not fit in my pocket, I don’t wear cargo shorts, :lol::lol::lol:)
I don’t have a drone. I don’t ever want a drone. If a drone comes near me, I throw rocks at it. Rock throwing is fun and cathartic. Do you have insurance for your drone to cover damage by rocks? :?:

:P:P





defrag4 - 9-13-2020 at 10:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Don't you have to subscribe to GAIA to download maps? I've tried, but it when I hit "Download Maps" it goes to a subscription screen. I seem to only have the basic GAIA Topo and to download other sources, again the subscription page comes up.

On Google Maps, you can download maps without a membership fee.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. It happens. Just be aware you may need to subscribe to get what you need.

John

[Edited on 9-12-2020 by John Harper]


yes you need to pay to get the better maps and offline use, worth it if doing serious Baja exploring!

they have great map overlays for the USA as well with BLM/National Forest boundarys, burn areas, etc etc

its a really cool app

[Edited on 9-13-2020 by defrag4]

BajaMama - 9-14-2020 at 08:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by chippy  
Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaMama  
I have an ancient Garmin Nuvi that I have used all over Baja and all over the Yucatan. We splurged and bought the lifetime map updates for Mexico and it works really well. Saved my butt first time I crossed north at Mexicali East when it turned out Discover Baja maps/directions were outdated. Dirt roads show up, too. Another thing I find that works well with the Garmin is to zoom in as close as possible on Google Earth to a location I am traveling to and enter the GPS coordinates into the Garmin.

[Edited on 9-12-2020 by BajaMama]


Hey jz have you ever checked out e32 maps? You might want to quit bashing garmin if you haven´t? I now use BCN thanks to you but its not the only game in town. Having both is 2x better.

I've had many Garmins. Times change. Technology improves. Avoiding getting stuck in the past keeps one from growing old before their time.


My only point is that older technology can still work. I update my maps prior to departure and the roads, even back dirt roads, show up. I use it when we are on Jeep runs in CA because those old roads show up. My husband has fancy ass crap that is not as reliable as my 15+ hear old Garmin Nuvi with updated, current maps and is complicated to use!

bajaric - 9-14-2020 at 08:50 AM

The OP's question was what kind of GPS is best for Baja. This would imply a traditional stand alone GPS like a Garmin or TomTom. Of course, a GPS must have Mexico maps to work in Baja, and the detail of small dirt tracks might be less than ideal in the basic maps that are provided by the manufacturer. As noted, the after market E32 map ($105 US, Garmin only) has more detail on back roads. I looked at a screen shot of the E32 map for the Sierra Juarez there were so many trails it looked like a ball of spaghetti, but the dirt bikers seem to like it.

Or, "GPS" could mean any electronic device with a built in GPS such as a tablet or smart phone. There are many "apps" or software that can be used to download maps to the device memory, then be used in areas without cell reception. Gaiia, Backountry Navigator, etc etc., much loved by the techie set. The better ones seem to require a subscription. Google maps is free, and areas can be selected and downloaded for offline use. It is pretty good for navigating around towns and cities, but not so great for the back country. The roads are shown by a faint white line on a grey background. If you want to see small dirt tracks, you have to zoom in so far that there is no frame of reference for surrounding main roads, then when you zoom out the small tracks disappear!

For the youngsters, there is a thing called a "map" that is actually printed on something called "paper" a substance that is made out of trees. With one of these, and a compass, it is possible to navigate without the assistance of any electronic device!

defrag4 - 9-14-2020 at 09:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaric  
The OP's question was what kind of GPS is best for Baja. This would imply a traditional stand alone GPS like a Garmin or TomTom. Of course, a GPS must have Mexico maps to work in Baja, and the detail of small dirt tracks might be less than ideal in the basic maps that are provided by the manufacturer. As noted, the after market E32 map ($105 US, Garmin only) has more detail on back roads. I looked at a screen shot of the E32 map for the Sierra Juarez there were so many trails it looked like a ball of spaghetti, but the dirt bikers seem to like it.

Or, "GPS" could mean any electronic device with a built in GPS such as a tablet or smart phone. There are many "apps" or software that can be used to download maps to the device memory, then be used in areas without cell reception. Gaiia, Backountry Navigator, etc etc., much loved by the techie set. The better ones seem to require a subscription. Google maps is free, and areas can be selected and downloaded for offline use. It is pretty good for navigating around towns and cities, but not so great for the back country. The roads are shown by a faint white line on a grey background. If you want to see small dirt tracks, you have to zoom in so far that there is no frame of reference for surrounding main roads, then when you zoom out the small tracks disappear!

For the youngsters, there is a thing called a "map" that is actually printed on something called "paper" a substance that is made out of trees. With one of these, and a compass, it is possible to navigate without the assistance of any electronic device!


kids are screwed once the internet goes down

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/map-reading-...


BajaRun - 10-13-2020 at 10:52 AM

Today and tomorrow are Amazon Prime Days, I was thinking about getting a Tablet to use as a GPS for off road travel.

I know zero about them, what would be a good one to get for this purpose?

AKgringo - 10-13-2020 at 11:17 AM

Quote: Originally posted by BajaRun  
Today and tomorrow are Amazon Prime Days, I was thinking about getting a Tablet to use as a GPS for off road travel.

I know zero about them, what would be a good one to get for this purpose?


I had the same thought, and started looking for an inexpensive tablet for that purpose. It turns out that many (if not most) do not have a GPS capability, other that connecting through a phone.

msteve1014 - 10-13-2020 at 01:13 PM

I know nothing, but try this. http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=93354

chippy - 10-13-2020 at 03:41 PM

From JZs recomendation I bought the Samsung Galaxy Tab E 8in. from Amazon last year. It was around 150 bucks and works well. Get a cell plan and BCN or Gaia and your good to go.

PaulW - 10-13-2020 at 04:00 PM

Good advice, and the Ipads from Apple are also very inexpensive at this time and compare to the recommendation above cost wise.

Mr. Bills - 10-13-2020 at 09:36 PM

Last year I used a cheap Garmin Drive 51 dashboard GPS and the E32 map.

That, and a now out-of-print Automobile Club of Southern California map were all our group needed to get everywhere we wanted to go.

Now if David K would only get his map guide published in book or spiral bound format.

PaulW - 10-14-2020 at 07:05 AM

More maps are good, but of course many of us want to drive on roads that do not appear on the AAA and Davids maps. That is the reason we keep searching for digital maps to fill that void.
Many others as completely satisfied with the main roads documented on the old AA maps. And David for the most part had merely duplicated these roads to a lesser extent. Admiral effort, but not equal to current digital offerings that can be accessed on just about any GPS whether dedicated GPS, tablet, or smartphone.

David K - 10-14-2020 at 07:44 AM

Yep, the maps I made were only intended to show roads mentioned in my road logs... to give the reader a sense of location or position compared to the area. Putting too much on a map with that purpose only clutters and makes using it difficult.

I love detailed maps to explore with, so the Baja Topo Atlas & Baja Almanac series (1986-2009) were great and easier to use than buying the topo maps from INEGI.
Be happy to know a new Baja map book will be in our future and when I can share the details, I will.