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Neal Johns
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LarryB,
How (format) do you want the track data ?
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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LarryB
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MexRay
Our maps install directly into MapSource so will work the same, other than autorouting. Ours do not have the autorouting feature, again due to lack
of available data. Are you using nRoute with this setup?
Neal
.gdb is preferred but I can work with just about anything. Thanks.
Larry
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Neal Johns
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LarryB,
Give me an email at aridnealatearthlinkdotnet
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TacoFeliz
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Larry B - any Lowrance insights?
Just wondered if you had any info on Lowrance files and protocols. Uploading and downloading tracks and waypoints on my 480c is a cinch, though
little info on putting together real maps (outside of U.S. MapCreate) is available.
I am fluent in a broad spectrum of both vector and raster programs but unsure where to look for more in-depth info.
Thanks.
Jay
[Edited on 12-1-2005 by TacoFeliz]
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wornout
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LarryB
Neal
If you can send me some of them tracks you are laying I can work them into the next version.
By far the hardest part of producing Baja GPS maps is finding data. In the US we have so much information we are tripping over it. The government
agencies give it away for free.
Anyway, it's nice to see a real world review.
Thank,
Larry
www.LBMaps.com
[Edited on 11-28-2005 by LarryB] |
Larry, I sent you some of the tracks we have been creating in the San Felipe area. Enjoy, hope you can use them. They are in OZI PLT format. The
file is 2,119 KB in size. Hope your spam blocker doesn't mess up a good thing.
This Space Available, E-Mail Me If Interested.
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Mexray
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LarryB...
Yes, the new Garmin laptop mapping/GPS puck system uses their 'nRoute', along with Mapsource, 'City Select - North American v6' data.
I have a separate Mapsource No. American MetroGuide CD on my desktop PC, so I downloaded your sample from your website to check it out - works
painlessly. I am assuming your Baja data could also be downloaded to the 'nRoute' program and work in a similar fashion. I could then put all the
Baja Regions on my laptop's hard drive to have complete access.
I understand that the auto routing wouldn't work, but I would be able to leave 'bread crumbs' as I moved through Baja, in the way Neal did with his
Garmin GPS unit.
I also have an older Garmin Legend GPS, but the mono-display is so small, and the memory being limited, I think I'll stick to the Laptop's big display
- at least while in my vehicle...'on-foot' is another matter!
regards, Ray
According to my clock...anytime is \'BAJA TIME\' & as Jimmy Buffett says,
\"It doesn\'t use numbers or moving hands It always just says now...\"
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LarryB
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Jay
Sorry but I'm no help at all on the Lowrance stuff. I can barely keep my head above water with Garmin. Have you looked at some of the conversion utilities like GPSBabel?
Ray
That's what I use. nRoute in the car/RV and a 76cs on the bikes. I have a couple Legends I use as loggers. I loan them to people to carry along on
their trips so I can get the tracks. The Garmin Lengend works well on the "Navigator" map but the "Expeditioner" topo map has too many lines for the
tiny monochrome screen to be useful. All the topo lines look like roads.
Wornout
Holy moley!!! Thats some great tracks. Thank you. This will really add to the San Felipe area detail. I'll send you an update as soon as I get it all
on.
Larry
[Edited on 12-2-2005 by LarryB]
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wornout
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| Quote: | Originally posted by LarryB
Wornout
Holy moley!!! Thats some great tracks. Thank you. This will really add to the San Felipe area detail. I'll send you an update as soon as I get it all
on.
Larry
[Edited on 12-2-2005 by LarryB] |
Thanks for the note, Bajalou did most of the work of merging them together. Then he taught me how to do it. Thanks for the great product....wornout
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Mexray
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LarryB...just one more question...
...Do you offer 'updates' your mapping software products?
With all the discussions above about the addition of user submitted 'tracks'...do you compile this data and make it available to existing 'customers',
similar to Garmin?
I think Garmin's update policy makes their GPS' one of the best values in today's electronic gizmo world...Sure, they make bigger and brighter
products, but their continued support of their older units makes them 'Kings' in my book!
Thanks...
According to my clock...anytime is \'BAJA TIME\' & as Jimmy Buffett says,
\"It doesn\'t use numbers or moving hands It always just says now...\"
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LarryB
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Ray
The "Navigator" map is the one I produce myself. I send out update notice/links to customers for one year from date of purchase. If a customer sends
in tracks/waypoints that are useful I put a bug next to his/her name for extra update time depending on what they have sent. Wornout will be getting
multiple brownie points for his excellent contribution. I hope to have a new update for this map within a few weeks. To me this seems the best way to
build a realworld Baja GPS map.
The "Expeditioner" topo map is produced by www.Bicimapas.mx.com and
LBMaps.com is the US distributor fo CD versions of this map. We also sell download versions online. Updates, when produced will be retroactive. There
are none in the works presently but the map has only been out for a few months. I am presently compiling a batch of updates/fixes and will format them
for inclusion in their next update, if they are interested.
It would be nice to have it all on one map but for now this is the best there is. Bicimapas has commitments to the Mexican government for the TOPO
data that I cannot afford for the "Navigator". They are mostly interested in selling maps produced from this data source, INEGI.
My personal solution, at the risk of sounding like I am trying to sell more maps, is to use both at the same time. I have compiled the "Navigator" as
a transparent map so they both can be seen at the same time, at least it works that way on my 76cs. On others I have had to upload them both and
toggle between the maps. I primarily use the "Navigator" until I want to see the topo details, then I switch to the "Expeditioner". This also keeps
the smaller screens cleaned up until I need the topo detail.
I hope this answers your questions.
Larry
[Edited on 12-2-2005 by LarryB]
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niknas
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I just drove from Chula Visa to Los Barrilies this week using both Navigator and Baja Expedition using a Garmin 60cs. Here are first my criticisms of
both Navigator and Expedition:
Navigator has very accurate detail for Mex-1 (Baja-1), turn by turn, towns, Pemex, etc. For the person traveling the main hi-way Navigator detail is
very good. Highly recommended. Baja Expedition on the other hand waivers a fair amount off of the actual hi-way. I haven't had the chance to use the
Baja Expedition off-road yet. This is where I hope it works best. As soon as I do go off-road I'll post my experience with Baja Expedition.
A very embarrassing mistake found in both programs is that Mexico-One when navigating (the high-way some times called Baja-One) is listed as US-1!
Hard to explain that to the casual observer (a little Yankee imperialism maybe?). A patch to correct this should be issued ASAP.
LarryB, thanks for publishing this program, it is much needed.
Nik
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LarryB
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I'll fix it right now. Where along Mex1 is it labeled wrong? Thanks for the heads-up. I should have an update available for the Navigator in a few
days. It will include the new data I have rec over the past month, plus a bunch of small stuff.
Larry
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niknas
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Larry,
I noticed it immediately when I turned on Guidance Text on my map page. i.e."heading south on US-1". And whenever you move your pointer to Mex-1 the
box says US-1. The map is labeled correctly as Mex-1.
Nik
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LarryB
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OK, I found it. I had fixed this in an update of Navigator last summer but evidently it was just after you purchased your map. I am emailing you the
new update now.
I will also forward this info on to Bicimapas so they can fix the Expeditioner.
Larry
[Edited on 12-4-2005 by LarryB]
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niknas
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Larry,
The update work on Navigator, nice to see Mex-1 listed.
Thanks,
Nic
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