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[*] posted on 2-15-2005 at 10:49 PM


Found it David!

John Steinbeck.
The Log from Sea of Cortez.
Paper Back edition 1995
ISBN 0 14 01.8744 8

So now, go to pages 131 and follow on.

We're talking in the area of Puerto Escondido

You have to take me along this on your first journey! Will meet you.

[Edited on 2-16-2005 by yankeeirishman]
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[*] posted on 2-15-2005 at 11:49 PM


David K, sorry I am a little late.
There is a four foot rock "dam" across a narrow spot several miles above the entrance (where the race course road crosses it on the Baja Almanac map) to Arroyo Grande . I suspect it is to prevent drug runners from zooming up and down the arroyo rather than to hold water but am not sure. There was no water behind it several years ago.

You could lift a motorcycle over it, but be aware there is a gated ranch several miles before you get to Hwy. 3.




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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 08:58 AM


Yankee, in my older paperback Log, it is on page 161 where they ..." crawled on all fours..." Thanks for looking.

Neal, so the rock wall or dam does prevent any 4X4s from getting to San Matias Pass in Arroyo Grande, it sounds... Then you say Rancho Arroyo Grande has gated the road, as well....?

So, other than leaving the Pole Line Road back north or going NE to La Ventana on Hwy. 5... can you or have you taken the roads south to Hwy. 3 (used by SCORE years ago) or SE to Hwy. 5 near El Chinero mountain?




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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 09:58 AM


Yes, David, I have taken the race course road south to El Chinero and Hwy. 3. but not for years. There is a washout but two people say there is a way around it.



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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 10:03 AM


You found it David K. Now....it is these few pages that convinced me to move to Baja! The thrill of exploration is ALMOST better than fishing! Let me know if you zero in on this hiking path, would like to do that with you on the first exploration (that is, if you havent been there already!).
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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 10:18 AM


No, I have camped at Puerto Escondido (in '76 before they closed the place to make the half finished marina), but to go fishing from... We drove down to Ligui mission site and up to San Javier mission that trip.

Have you seen the Exotic Canyons & Matomi canyon photos in my web site or trip reports here on Nomad? That is all very close to your San Felipe home. I suggest you meet BajaLou, he is a great amigo and will be happy to tell you about more places. Get Bruce Barber's book '... of Sea and Sand' (listed in my Notebook) for lot's of area side trips... including the search for the Lost Diaz Grave! I posted the chapter from Choral Pepper's book on this legend, as well.




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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 11:21 AM


Am meeting with BajaLou next time in SF. He;s offered to pay for the dinner :lol::lol::lol: Thanks for all that good info.
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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 06:09 PM


Thanks for the offer Bajalou--we might just take you up on that one of these days! Won't be this season I don't think though--busy putting in landscapes till June, but if there's a way this would be the best year to do it....should be water everywhere.....pappy and I are still planning a backpack trip to Arroyo Grande in March or April though, you're welcome to join us.
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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 06:38 PM


Sounds like a great trip Mexitron, Don;t know if these old bones are in shape for a hike like that but I sure would like to if they were. Need any help from around here just let me know.

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[*] posted on 2-16-2005 at 08:46 PM


mexitron-oh gosh i hate to say this,but...are ya havin' trouble puttin' something in that puss???!!:lol:
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[*] posted on 2-17-2005 at 06:45 AM


in all seriousness, i hope you get Indy healed up and back to good health.perhaps a trip to the desert will do it(it works for us!)later....:yes:
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[*] posted on 2-17-2005 at 11:17 PM
Yikes!.......


This thread reminds me that I still have "Sea of Cortez" that belongs to Mike H. (I could lose my library privledeges! :no:) ......Sorry Mike, I'll get that back to you. :saint:
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[*] posted on 2-18-2005 at 05:36 AM
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Yes, I have a question. When are you going to add the diagrams I scanned for you to the web site?
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[*] posted on 2-18-2005 at 10:23 AM


Robert, as I have said before, only my web host has access to my site to prevent me from accidentally messing it up since I do not know HTML.

Anyway, he has everything and it will be added when he has time...




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[*] posted on 2-23-2005 at 02:40 PM
Matomi - David K


Ok David, why don't you lay out a trip with this in mind. Leaving Gonzaga mid morning wanting to see the sights of Matomi area, (so a one night camp out along the way is fine with us) continuing to San Felipe the following day. If you'd like, you can throw in a few gps points. Never been there, what to see?

Thanks in advance

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[*] posted on 2-23-2005 at 07:25 PM
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Okay, like this???

GONZAGA TO SAN FELIPE via MATOMI and PARRAL PASS to the Sulfur Mine (Map Datum NAD27 Mex.)

1) Rancho Grande, Alfonsina's Road east: 29?47.50'/ 114?24.85'

2) Agua del Mezquitito water hole, just west of main road: 29?59.16'/ 114?34.12'

3) El Almacen Ruins, just east of road: 30?03.01'/ 114?34.96'

4) PUERTECITOS: 30?21.10'/ 114?38.42'

5) Arroyo Matomi road @ Hwy. 5: 30?29.42'/ 114?39.99' Turn left, west... 4WD and/ or deflated tire pressure needed.

6) In Arroyo Matomi, junction with Llanos de San Fermin road going north: 30?29.78'/ 114?50.12'

7) Rancho El Matomi (waterfall filled swimming hole down path): 30?27.40'/ 115?04.82'

Backtrack 5.2 mi. to junction with road north to Valle Chico.

8) Turn left/north and climb up, out of Matomi canyon: 39?29.63'/ 115?01.52'

9) In Valle Chico, junction with road east along fence line then go into Ca?ada el Parral ('Azufre Pass') to near the sulfur mine, on the old Puertecitos road: 30?35.19'/ 115?04.02'

(For a faster trip to San Felipe, continue ahead on the Valle Chico road)

10) The old Puertecitos road, turn left, north: 30?41.51'/ 114?46.42'

11) Sulfur Mine (on old Puertecitos road): 30?43.10'/ 114?46.66'

Continue ahead on the old Puertecitos road to San Felipe or take road east to Hwy. 5 near Bahia Santa Maria, just north of the mining valley, for faster trip.

12) SAN FELIPE Pemex (south): 31?00.91'/ 114?50.56'




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[*] posted on 2-23-2005 at 07:59 PM
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Thanks David, just what I had hoped for! John
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