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jrbaja
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I sincerely doubt
that he has any Mexican friends, misguided or not. But, he is following the path of all newbie gringo dogooders and trying to help a gringo community
in a very gringo way.
I'm pretty sure that these "save the something" projects that the gringos seem to need does not involve any of the local folks, if there are still
any that can even afford to live there now.
[Edited on 6/4/2005 by jrbaja]
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
that he has any Mexican friends, misguided or not. But, he is following the path of all newbie gringo dogooders and trying to help a gringo community
in a very gringo way.
I'm pretty sure that these "save the something" projects that the gringos seem to need does not involve any of the local folks, if there are still
any that can even afford to live there now.
[Edited on 6/4/2005 by jrbaja] |
What does any of this have to do with protecting a piece of the environment? I think everyone is reading way too much into this post. From what I
gathered, someone posted about potential development on the dunes near TS. The poster does not agree with this location of development. What is the
frickin' big deal?
Quit smoking the bamboo JR...
By the way, I do have many friends in the area...both Gringo and locals.
Zac
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BajaRescue
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| Quote: | | newbie gringo dogooders trying to help a gringo community in a very gringo way. |
So I guess the issue really is all about me after all? Then my bad 
[Edited on 6-5-2005 by BajaRescue]
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRescue
| Quote: | | newbie gringo dogooders trying to help a gringo community in a very gringo way. |
So I guess the issue really is all about me after all? Then my bad
[Edited on 6-5-2005 by BajaRescue] |
Save the TS sand dunes!!!! All Nomads need to take a sackful home when leaving Baja.
[Edited on 6-5-2005 by The Gull]
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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BajaRescue
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Sandbaggers!
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Marie-Rose
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Welcome to Baja Nomad, Baja Rescue!![/b
Now you know why there are so many of us who do not even try to post our thoughts!!
I truly understand what you are saying and value your contribution to the community of Todos Santos. We have been kept informed about what is
happening will also try to do what we can to support, not only the wishes of the gingo's living in Todos Santos, but also those of our Mexican
neighbors.
Please don't stop posting...there are hundreds of Nomads who are reading, and want to be informed.
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pokey
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Unfortunately..... In this day and age, anyone who expresses concerns about depelopment taking place in ecologically sensitive areas. Or depelopment
in hurricane zones. Or where water for the future communities is going to come from. Is immediately dismissed as a card carrying liberal, commie,
feminist wacko.
Then...When the chit hits the fan and the wells go salty, the hurricanes blow down the houses, the beaches errode away, the houses fall down the
sides of cliffs, the beaches become contaminated. They run to the govt and ask for money to pay for the their lack of foresight..... Then ask for a
tax cut.
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yankeeirishman
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Silence of the dead
Marie-Rose....
"Now you know why there are so many of us who do not even try to post our thoughts!!?
What? Hun?!
This is the real world. Not some TV. Drama where all agrees or disagrees with one's thoughts. The reality of Baja Rescue's post is this: 851 lookies
from the members / he learned about group action charters / the posted website he was offering got hit many more times from the public / he even got
new support! Not even to say anything about ?nurture the bow wows? Website and group he belongs to?got publicized immensely.
For you (Marie-Rose) that complain of "many of us who do not even try to post our thoughts" is indeed doing the social crime. You'll never get
anything done by being the quiet majority! Get off you Easy Chair and become a voice! Whether it?s negative or positive?a voice is far better than
silence! Voice allows debate, decisions with both sides of a story, advancements of a viewpoint! If you get your panties wet because someone goes
against you and that disables you?.well?go back to your Easy Chair and have silent representation.
Had Baja Rescue never posted on this forum?. most of us would have never heard about the problems in his hometown! SO WHAT if a a few of us knocked
him around! It helped! I don?t have a clue what your problems are in YOUR hometown from your silence! No need to rescue this guy?s post?rescue
yourself from silence!
Perhaps it is timidity that prevents many a person from standing squarely on their own philosophy and uttering nothing less than the highest truth
they perceive. One has fears at the loss of friends or position. Actually, the danger lies in the other direction, in settling for less than one's
best judgment.
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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BajaRescue
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Hey Marie-Rose, thanks for the vote.
But, really, greetz to all the Nomads for posting a view, pro or con.
yankeeirishman is spot on about debate, the exposure this thread got and the advice I got, and that wasn't lost on me.
Whether you're for or against development on the dunes in Mexico or anywhere else for that matter, whether you've lived here for years or not, this
group had a chance to pick and choose from all sides and post their own point if they wanted. That's the way it is and I wouldn't want it any
different.
I'll admit this is one tough bunch on this board, but every "newbie" gets a frat hazing until they get catch the way the wind blows. Hey, I run a
board, too, so I know all about that. Just didn't want the dissing to blow the thread totally off topic...
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BajaRescue
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And JrBaja, I need to answer your question about my friends, although this is again mostly off topic.
Alhough, I also think it's silly/wrong to make the distinction between the two groups, we have made many Mexican friends and many Gringo friends in
the short time we've lived here. Most of the people we have met in TS, especially Mexicans, are some of the nicest, friendliest people we've
ever known, here or anywhere else.
Our Mexican partners are local builders and they care about what happens with the dunes. People leading the charge to stop this particular
project are Mexicans. Call Sergio (another Mexican) and talk to him. In case you missed it, his phone number is in my first post. He
can give you a long list of all the TS Mexicans involved in this effort. Their efforts will ultimately carry a lot more weight than any bunch
of Gringos here for sure. But we all do what we can for our community.
[Edited on 6-5-2005 by BajaRescue]
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Marie-Rose
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Right on Yankeeirishman. I do need to keep that in mind...and will. Obviously Baja Rescue does not need me to "Rescue" him!!
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jrbaja
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The way I see it
is that if some don't have the backbone to stand up for what they believe in, vamanos panochas! Go back to your desperate housewife life. And that is
not intended as an insult to women as there are probably more men on this board who make up the chicken coup groupers!
And Rescue, sounds like you are doing what you believe in with the help of people that matter, (Mexicans). And you didn't weasle out of the
conversation like the coup groupers tend to do. Good on ya Amigo!
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yankeeirishman
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NEWS FLASH! "BajaRescue becomes Irish"!
Yes...that's thy ol' rumble tumble rolly polly talk, Mr BajaRescue ! You last post has bite. Jrbaja is a great guy with good meaning, if you can
read what he is REALLY sayin' about Baja. He makes sense to me...in every post. The Arf Arf's dont like him though
Marie-Rose
Are you Irish now too? GooD! Now type away me' Lady!
[Edited on 6-5-2005 by yankeeirishman]
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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BajaRescue
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You mean I get a stripe, or a badge, a shirt or something? cool! 
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yankeeirishman
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The yard boss
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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BajaRescue
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Hey, how many posts to earn a BajaNomad Forum Decoder Ring? I want to know what Members are really saying...
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eetdrt88
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if you knew exactly what
everyone met on an internet chat board such as this one,i have a feeling this whole business might start getting a little boring...its kinda like a
song you hear and sing along to,does it really matter if youre singing the exact same lyrics as the "real" singer ?
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bajaden
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I was a member of another board in Sacramento for a couple of years. We all finally decided to have a big get together. We met and decided we really
had nothing in common other than the ignorance we spewwed out in our posts. Just wasn't the same after that.
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eetdrt88
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now that is some funny ****
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaden
I was a member of another board in Sacramento for a couple of years. We all finally decided to have a big get together. We met and decided we really
had nothing in common other than the ignorance we spewwed out in our posts. Just wasn't the same after that. |
the anonymity of this process is what makes it kind of fun...at least for me
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yankeeirishman
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Sir....I am looking for a brain, have one handy?
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaden
I was a member of another board in Sacramento for a couple of years. We all finally decided to have a big get together. We met and decided we really
had nothing in common other than the ignorance we spewwed out in our posts. Just wasn't the same after that. |
"We all finally decided "...
Well?.ahm?hun ? ?all decided"? How many showed up at this lonely-hearts club meeting...2? Dude...oh Dude! You think the readers here think you are
speaking the truth of this statement of yours? Everyone didn?t like the other? What are the odds of that happening? I been to the worst parties of
hell?and always found SOMEONE I liked! You must have just posted this garbage statement to get attention. For a 63 years old , ya acting like a Drama
Queen!
In case Mommy never showed you how to end a heated forum (conversation) ...you leave with jokes and well wishes with all, so that there is a
positive trail to stay on next time one decides to venture out. "Hello"! That's exactly what was going on here till you stuck your Igor brain into the
last few postings. You must be very confused with all this higher intelligent forums we posters display here, try www.grammerschoollevelforum.com
BajaRescue 1054 views now
[Edited on 6-5-2005 by yankeeirishman]
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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