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Me No
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Since Rescue bashed Vegas, I feel within my rights to step in to this rather long thread.
1) I wish Vegas was beach front, but I guess we just have to settle for lake Mead. That is until California drops into the ocean.
2) JR is pulling everyones leg, the guy is rich, he owns half of southern Baja. That whole Bamboo thing is a rooze. None the less, it is his
passion and his mission. His love of the people of baja and the simple life is what confuses people. To know JR is to love him, but you need to be
patient enough to take a good long look.
3) Baja Blackie is rich too, he has the most unbelievable family I think I have ever met. Monied or not, in my book, his wealth is the amount of
love he is surrounded by.
4) I consider both of you my friends, good people are good people. If ever there is a time when things were not so good for you two. You both can
count on me, and I only charge 150 per hour.
Bajarescue, that sand dune looks remarkably like a thousand other beaches that have been developed all over baja. If you want to see a real sand dune,
go to Glamis. What makes that one so special? Oh, it's in your backyard. Weeell, tough petunias. The place looks better in the second picture, if
you ask me. You need to ask yourself why they built TS where they did in the first place. Because the beach front is often cold, overcast, and
windy. It is much nicer up in the valley there. Then there is the issue of water. Someone in town will need to sell it to them. You need to ask a
few Mexicans what they think about more jobs. Me thinks you must be and Eco Kook!
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Bruce R Leech
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sounds like everyone has some good ideas. and Baja rescue certainly has his hart in the right place and I respect his trying to save Baja Ca. as most
of us have tried to do in the past. But I think he will learn with time that there is not much use in protesting in Mexico. what will happen will
happen.
Bruce R Leech
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BajaRescue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Me No
Since Rescue bashed Vegas, I feel within my rights to step in to this rather long thread. |
Huh? You mean it
wasn't within your rights before? I bashed Vegas? Really, I think every country should have a Vegas (but only one per country, please). In Mexico,
maybe it's Cancun or Cabo, but with the casino coming, maybe it's Cabo?
| Quote: | | Bajarescue, that sand dune looks remarkably like a thousand other beaches that have been developed all over baja. If you want to see a real sand dune,
go to Glamis. What makes that one so special? Oh, it's in your backyard. |
We'll, uh yeah, that's pretty
obvious, isn't it? Your point? Would it be more of an issue if it was in someone else's back yard? Oh, wait, you must mean someplace far away like Sri
Lanka where they flattened the dunes for Development allowing the Tsunami to sweep in and kill people? Hmmm, naw, it could never happen here... () burble ()
| Quote: | | You need to ask a few Mexicans what they think about more jobs. |
You're assuming there will be less jobs
building somewhere besides the dunes? Why?
Actually, SEMARNAP will do the asking, and they won't be asking the Gringos or even the Mexicans who were brought in from the mainland for jobs and
then stranded when the jobs went away.
Bruce is right... What will happen will happen. May as well just roll up a spliff and fugedaboudit, right?
| Quote: | | Me thinks you must be and Eco Kook! |
What is that? You mean you think I must be a "Cactus Hugger?" Yow! 
(Hey, YankeeIrishman, 2,000 views and counting...)
[Edited on 6-16-2005 by BajaRescue]
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yankeeirishman
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Hey Dune King....
Yes! Over 2000 hits! You are King of Dunes. On this Baja Blackie response to you.....dont let this guy drag you on with worthless typeset. You have
made your point here clearly, and most agree. Why dont you do a little write up on your town there. You know...best eatery in the joint, places to
visit, da da da......Nevermind Vegas....it's a city of losers, and few winners.
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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The Gull
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Baja Fescue
You are an American weed in Baja.
Crowding out the natural flora and fauna.
You are an eco-threat.
Hopefully, you will be out on the beach in front of the dunes (protecting them) with your binoculars watching for the tsunami when it comes.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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BajaRescue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
You are an American weed in Baja.
Crowding out the natural flora and fauna.
You are an eco-threat. |
I forget. Is this all about me again, or is this now all about you trying to make it
all about me again? (Where's that damn Forum decoder ring...)
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yankeeirishman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
You are an American weed in Baja.
Crowding out the natural flora and fauna.
You are an eco-threat.
Hopefully, you will be out on the beach in front of the dunes (protecting them) with your binoculars watching for the tsunami when it comes.
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tsunami when it comes? Dude....you think this is funny stuff? I dont. And 260,000 other humans from last year's tsunami that died as they felt death
swallow them. Dont think about becoming a stand up comic!
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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BajaRescue
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| Quote: | | Why dont you do a little write up on your town there. You know...best eatery in the joint, places to visit, da da da......Nevermind Vegas....it's
a city of losers, and few winners. |
Hey, yankeeirishman, good idea! I'm getting bored with debating dune
development, as probably most of the knowmads here by now.
OK, best breakfast in town? Cafe Brown gets my vote. Iker makes some mean Mexican eggs... Hot as you want. 
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wilderone
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".. that sand dune looks remarkably like a thousand other beaches that have been developed all over baja. If you want to see a real sand dune, go to
Glamis. What makes that one so special?" It's a COASTAL dune, PG:
Coastal dunes are significantly different from sand dunes in desert areas. Desert dunes shift continually in the direction of prevailing winds and
have little to no vegetative cover. Coastal dunes, however, are covered in specialized grasses that have the unique ability to survive in shifting
sand, continually producing new stems and roots through cycles of burial and exposure. This net of grasses stabilize the dunes, and when damaged by
construction and vehicles, or removed by human interference, the dunes will begin migrating inland, covering everything in their path and allowing the
sea to flood low lying inland areas. Dunes are the sand reservoir for the beaches and when they are removed, the beaches follow suit. Coastal Dunes
act as a buffer against high surf and summer storms, protecting low lying inland areas from flooding. Equally important, these dunes provide a sand
reservoir that replaces sand eroded from the beach. Beach erosion, with the subsequent loss of recreational areas, has severely affected local
economies and taxpayers are now funding large-scale coastal dune restoration projects. Local Mexican environmental groups, such as "Sociedad de
Historia Natural Niparaja" of La Paz, are working with government officials to enact regulations in Mexico to prevent similar destruction of Baja's
coastal dunes.
"Las Barrancas" in the East Cape region north of Cabo Pulmo suffered a severe storm with high surf which swept away up to 20 meters of developed beach
front property, resulting in partial to total destruction of a number of homes, leaving others perched on newly formed sand cliffs overlooking the
beach. Property owners are now erecting bulkheads and seawalls in an attempt to prevent further erosion of their remaining land. Such structures, as
experience in other coastal areas has shown, have proved to contribute to or accelerate local coastal erosion. This cycle of construction and
destruction has been repeated in coastal areas worldwide. The only successful solution has been to protect the existing dunes and restore those that
have been destroyed.
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yankeeirishman
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Smash it to em Wilderone! Good response.
For futher education of Sand Dunes:
http://www.ew.govt.nz/enviroinfo/coasts/coastalecosystems/du...
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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PJC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
Desert dunes shift continually in the direction of prevailing winds and have little to no vegetative cover.
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Then, why are you eco-clowns trying to close down Glamis to supposedly protect the Simpson's Mile Vetch plant?
Shoot, Shovel and Shut-up!
-- A simple operating practice.
‘Global warming’ has become the grand political narrative of the age, replacing Marxism as a dominant force for controlling liberty and human
choices.
-- Prof. P. Stott
Time was, people warning the world \"Repent - the end is nigh!\" were snickered at as fruitcakes.
Now they own the media and run the schools.
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yankeeirishman
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Some folks just dont get it about dunes
What control freaks there are here. Don\'t believe that post you just read!
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Arthur
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What's all this academic gibberish about cause and effect? I bet you went to COLLEGE. Maybe even in Berkeley. So much for your opinion.
If we could have destroyed all those dunes before you lefties got to study them, we wouldn't be having this discussion. It's do-gooders like you that
bring down property values -- not floods and drifting sand.
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Me No
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Take a good look at Fescue's picture. If anyone were stupid enough to actually build something there, the next hurricane would certainly take care of
the problem. It's in the bottom of a Vado. Looks to be another do gooder looking for personal glory. What is the web site you host again?
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eetdrt88
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and the moral of the story is...
if you've got some environmental cause or some cute little endangered animal or any other somewhat sensitive subject you want to share about,best not
do it here because we would rather talk about things like which mexican beer tastes best.....how many hand operated fire engines exist in Baja....why
old grumpy gringos want to date hot young latina girls....which Nomad gives the others the most grief...which exhaust system will work best on our new
trucks....where you can get the best radar detector at the cheapest price....or any other number of highly intellectual subjects.....but whatever you
do....Do not,i repeat Do not post about some poor pitiful sand dunes in the middle of nowhere that some developer just cant wait to get his hands
on....that subject seems to really infuriate some people here which could lead to high blood pressure,ulcers,even the dreaded hemmeroids.....so as the
old expression goes...."Dummy up"....stick to simple topics which are easy on the mind and dont put any of us out of our "comfort zone" :
[Edited on 6-16-2005 by eetdrt88]
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BajaRescue
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| Quote: | Originally posted by eetdrt88
"Dummy up"....stick to simple topics which are easy on the mind and dont put any of us out of our "comfort zone" |
OK, got it now, eetdrt88!
Best Dinner in Todos Santos? El Tamarindo. Nice courtyard, cheap and very good food and service. Most haven't discovered it yet. Even the locals, who
were turned off by the previous owners, haven't come back. Try the rellenos.
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eetdrt88
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boy,did you ever read that wrong
| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
| Quote: | Originally posted by eetdrt88
if you've got some environmental cause or some cute little endangered animal or any other somewhat sensitive subject you want to share about,best not
do it here because we would rather talk about things like which mexican beer tastes best.....how many hand operated fire engines exist in Baja....why
old grumpy gringos want to date hot young latina girls....which Nomad gives the others the most grief...which exhaust system will work best on our new
trucks....where you can get the best radar detector at the cheapest price....or any other number of highly intellectual subjects.....but whatever you
do....Do not,i repeat Do not post about some poor pitiful sand dunes in the middle of nowhere that some developer just cant wait to get his hands
on....that subject seems to really infuriate some people here which could lead to high blood pressure,ulcers,even the dreaded hemmeroids.....so as the
old expression goes...."Dummy up"....stick to simple topics which are easy on the mind and dont put any of us out of our "comfort zone":
[Edited on 6-16-2005 by eetdrt88] |
Wow, like how cool of you, Laguna Dude, to like recognize the true, like, inner values of the postings here. Dude, if you were, like, really
interested in like saving animals and things why did you live in Laguna and not in the jungle?
I would gamble that some people on this board still remember Laguna Beach when it was like waaayy natural and not filled with rump rangers and
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i think youve got me confused with someone else, i'm not mr.environmental....i was merely
adding a little humor in a mix of a bunch of uptight posts...i mean i've got to say that it is funny to watch how mad some people here get about
environmental issues,i'm talking about people on both sides of the argument.....oh btw the reason i live in Laguna is because my wife and I are
artists and we sell her art here at the Sawdust Festival from july1 to sept.4....so its more of a money thing than anything else....if any nomads are
in the area and are interested in coming to the festival just let me know and I will get you in for free and the first round is on me....did i mention
they have some great live music as well,here is the link to their websitehttp://www.sawdustartfestival.org/
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Me No
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
I would gamble that some people on this board still remember Laguna Beach when it was like waaayy natural and not filled with rump rangers and
hypocrites. |
Rump Rangers. :moon::moon::moon:
Dude, thats, like, way funny!
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pokey
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afghani x oaxacan anyone?
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BajaRescue
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Best "All You Can Eat" Pizza? Saturday at Restaurante Santanas. For 55 pesos, funky surfer digs, open air palapa bar, good drinks (you can even watch
the sunset go down over the dunes a few miles away :)
[Edited on 6-16-2005 by BajaRescue]
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