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[*] posted on 10-11-2005 at 05:34 PM
BOLA is beautiful


but the last two times I have been there, drunken gringo tourists were ruining the place with ATVs, loud mouths, and a total lack of respect for anyone, especially the locals.
That was many years ago.

My Mexican neighbors stopped going because of a crystal meth problem that seemed to be overwhelming the locals there, I didn't witness this personally but have in many other areas

My ideas on fishing villages differ greatly than most on here because of my travels elsewhere in Baja which also has an effect on my opinion. Fishing villages are based on fishing, not tourism.

As far as you DK, since being called on things so many times, you have turned your bragging/attitude down some but still, there is just something about you that makes you really fun to call on stuff. Especially when you keep reminding everyone of your hundreds??? of trips down here.


Most people I know, who actually do have hundreds of trips down here, have Mexican friends and families all over the place and they have been bringing needed items to them for years.

I haven't seen you mention this once, which comes as a surprise coming from someone who supposedly knows Baja and doesn't consider himself a tourist.

As far as making friends on a chatroom, I don't put much value in it. Obviously, the things I believe and talk about offend many on here.

This leads me to believe that these are the same idiots, (or just like them) that I see in action down here regularly. Otherwise, they wouldn't be taking my comments about enclaves, drunks, and ugly americans personally.

Personally, I think I couldn't have done any better shooting fish in a barrel when it comes to targets as far as that goes.

But, I'm chillen, a little. Notice my lack of the term CCG? I even got tired of it.:lol:
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[*] posted on 10-11-2005 at 05:40 PM


Thank you jr...



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[*] posted on 10-11-2005 at 05:46 PM
Right on David


:lol::lol::lol: Paz
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[*] posted on 10-11-2005 at 07:00 PM
I was hoping that


someone would have chimed in by now telling me that BOLA no longer has that problem.:no:


And Comi, I guess you have met and know David?
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[*] posted on 10-11-2005 at 08:28 PM


Give them some time jr... only you and I are on here 24/7 :yes::lol::lol::lol:

No, I never met 'Comi' nor have even u2u'd with him! :lol::lol::lol:

You do realize that there is good and bad EVERWHERE... specially if you go looking for it!

Meth is all over Mexico... You are responsible for your own actions or behavior... If doing illegal drugs is your thing, then don't get around me... If it wasn't meth, then it could be pot or booze, or bamboo (does that really get you high?)! People who want to experience the artificial experience of those things will... until they reach a level of maturity that no longer requires that behavior.

As for visitors to Bahia de L.A. (or 'tourists' if you prefer), if they want to see bad stuff, then they can ask about it and see it perhaps...

Most I think want just to experience 'The Baja Feeling' and that means beautiful land, sea, sky, people, sports, recreation, history, adventure...

Bahia de L.A. along with most of Baja is a great place for those things.




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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 06:54 AM


Ok, let me see if I understand this correctly. JR you by your own account were last in Bahia "many years ago"; I wonder if this was even within the last decade. And your accounts on Bahia's suposed problems come secondhand from comments from others who also no longer come here. So who are you to say what Bahia is or is not?

I don't see the problems you are talking about; but I don't go looking for them either. Not to say the town is perfect by any means and of course there will always be a few individual bad elements anywhere you go in the world.

If you were referring to me being the one not chiming in earlier.... hey I have a life! ...things to do, places to go people to see and all the rest. And besides, at any given moment I am a week behind in my chores because new ones crop up constantly. But I love this life I lead and feel very fortunate to be here.

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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 08:44 AM
I guess since I mention some problems


I see in some areas, to some of you it means I went looking for them ? Hardly. I just don't wear blinders.

With meth comes theft. Hopefully, this is something none of you have had to deal with in BOLA. I have heard differently.

And after you have patched up enough drunken tourists and their kids out enjoying their "sports" , you tend to look at idiots on motorized machines in a different light.

These problems are not exclusive to Bay of Los Angeles but when we used to go there, because of the popularity of the place, they were fairly common.

My "second hand" information regarding the drugs, comes from a Mexican family who used to vacation there. They speak Spanish and have lived in Baja all their lives. Who would you believe?
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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 09:03 AM
JR---It just depends on how you look at things, I guess----


After camping and moteling in BOLA for about 35 years, maybe 25 different times, I fail to see what you are talking about-----the town seems very "Mexican" to me.

After being an EMT and Law Enforcement officer at the Glamis Dunes in the Imperial Dunes of Southern California for 13 years, perhaps you can immagine how many "crazies" I patched up and shipped to the hospital-----still, I owned a dune buggy, 4x4, RV, and rode ATV's, and still do. A few crazies did not poison my thinking of ALL recreationists. I think that you are being way too negative, here, but of course that is your "right". After Glamis, BOLA problems seem non-existant, to me, and I love that place.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 09:14 AM
Very good point Barry


And on that note, I guess I could be considered "paranoid" because we used to go to Dumont Dunes instead, just because of the crazies and accident toll at Glamis.
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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 09:39 AM
JR----Dumont----a very wise choice-----


and it is beautiful.

The Imperial Dunes on a major winter weekend is------ ahhhhhh------ well, an aberation (a kinder, gentler word for what I really mean). I loved Glamis on a Wednesday, tho, after a brisk wind-storm on Tuesday, that covered the "bodies".
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