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jrbaja
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What Bruce said is true JZ
and having a brother who was a traditional sail maker, I understand. These guys cringe at the thought of using a motor.
And it seems that docking under sail is like winning the lottery when done properly!
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Boy, there must be zero "real or good sailors" at the marina's I frequent!, because I can't recall watching one sail-in!
Hey, but I'm not a sailor, power is more my thing, so what do I know! But I preceive the comments as macho chest pounding and, generally, out to
lunch!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
Against the wind from
Santa Rosalia to La Paz ? |
Wind should be at your back this time of year!
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jrbaja
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But I preceive the comments as macho chest pounding and, generally, out to lunch!
Sort of JZ. But when I said "traditional", I meant it. And traditionally, those sailers didn't have motors. This has created a sense of pride in
true "sailers" when they don't have to rely on anything but their own skill and equipment.
Personally, I'm with you because I have yet to see a sailboat that I could ski behind!
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JZ
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JR this is a little ironic. You are commenting about a subject which you are not an expert, which is fine and dandy.
But you blast the "tourist" for talking about Baja in a similar way. Can't have it both ways!
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I'm not a sail salt, but a 40' concrete ship would need a small tug boat to dock???? I think the tall ships in San Francisco use tugs? The guy who
sailed this must not have had any worries as he built and sailed it for years with no motor.
Do sailboats have brakes? 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
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if you cant sail into the wind you have no reason to be on a sail boat
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jrbaja
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Nope, no expert JZ
But after spending 2 months on a 115' steel hulled schooner in the South China Sea, my brother owning a 1953 55' Sparkman Stevens Ketch and him living
on it for over 10 years in San Diego, 2 of my good friends having similar boats and sailing on them as well, remodeling the sail loft for Ullman
Sails, knowing and hanging around the Frost family for a number of years (Downwind Marine), sailing to Catalina amd Ensenada a number of times, and my
brother owning San Diego Sails and Canvas, I have some opinions of what I think a traditional sailor is.
But, I could be wrong!
Again I will state, I prefer something that pulls a skier.
PS, One of my friends boats that we sailed to Ensenada is cement. No different than any other boat in the 40-50' range to maneuvre. We also pulled
another 55' steel hull up from Baja Naval where it was made in Ensenada with the cement hull, to Shelter Island where it is now being finished. That
was a LONG trip! Uphill the whole way!
[Edited on 10/14/2005 by jrbaja]
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JZ
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Ok, you know a little more than I gave you credit for!
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Your too intelligent for my Larry, because I have no clue what the real meaning of that is in this context.
Interesting style also, I looked at your last ten posts. Everytime it was a quote and response to a post, just like this. Stopped after ten (10 for
10). Interesting gig you got going??!!
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JZ
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That explains alot!
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I'm honestly not too concerned about getting into the harbor.
My dad used to do it without a motor going into a slip in Marina del Rey, only using his sails and that's a REALLY busy Marina. The captain we've
chosen has sailed with my dad many times and I fully trust his capabilities.
...And where can I get that robot?
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Oops! I forgot to login.. That Anon is me!
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remodeling the sail loft for Ullman Sails |
Yeah?
Dave is a great guy. He spent three hours with me discussing sail options for my Schock. ( And to him, a $1,200 sail package is way small potatoes.)
JR, next time you're down I'll show you my best Baja find. A Pfaff 130 I picked up at the Primo Tapia flea market for $50.00. It'll sew through 10
layers of canvas and not break a sweat.
Maybe you could build us a loft?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
This has created a sense of pride in true "sailers" when they don't have to rely on anything but their own skill and equipment.
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I love it when push button "sailors" motor in, after stowing all sail, and then...the... auxiliary...dies.
Motors always work, except when they don't. Can't say the same thing about sails. 
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Dave
San Diego Sails and Canvas is no longer but my brother still has most of his stuff.
He will be down soon. I'll bring him by.
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Dave
That says it all, just hope you have an upwind berth when the motor dies. Sailboats don't have brakes.
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jrbaja
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Don't you mean
downwind berth?
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Jr
Your not showing your knowledge of sailing. If you want to challenge me on sailing experience you WILL lose.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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jrbaja
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Oh settle down
and answer the question.
Let's see Popeye, no power and I want to get to a berth upwind. What do I do?
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