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Photos of Neal's trip beyond San Borja along the eastern El Camino Real with Jose and the mules ar at http://vivabaja.com/neal
[Edited on 3-12-2006 by David K]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
BAJACAT,
Make sure you hike up a canyon a few tenths of a mile to old Rancho San Gregorio if you have not seen it. A great site, old adobe, fruit trees, water
(piped down to the bottom for use by cattle and the sometimes people at the "line shack" building at the bottom of the mountain.)
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Photos of Rancho San Gregorio are at: http://vivabaja.com/401/page5.html
Neal Johns showed us the way... a foot hike of 1/4 mile from the end of the road on the east branch of El Camino Real
Here's a photo from the 1950's of San Gregorio from the Lower California Guidebook (Howard Gulick)... The large square stones at the base date from
the mission building era... This was likely a mission visita in the 1700's...
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BAJACAT
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Thanks Neal I will try to see as much as I can so far is the mule trip to the aguaje,the hot springs (rather warm springs as everybody keeps saying.)
and now the Rancho Gregorio trail that you mention hopefully I will make time to go see The Santa Ana visita. and Montevideo
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BAJACAT
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Dk
How far is the lava tower from SBorja?
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David K
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It is between San Borja and San Gregorio... closer to San Gregorio... I think about 7 miles from San Borja. There is a cross on top of the lava tower.
[Edited on 3-14-2006 by David K]
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John M
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BajaCat - Santa Ana Visita?
First of all, how do you quys get those quotes from a previous post to appear in the neat little boxes?
BajaCat, you wrote:
Thanks Neal I will try to see as much as I can so far is the mule trip to the aguaje,the hot springs (rather warm springs as everybody keeps saying.)
and now the Rancho Gregorio trail that you mention hopefully I will make time to go see The Santa Ana visita. and Montevideo.
My question, what do you know of the Santa Ana visita? I've begun to try to learn a bit about the San Borja area and have not seen reference to a
visita in the San Borja region by that name.
Montevideo is worth seeing - a wonderful side trip. And you want a pretty drive - than do make the trip to San Gregorio, here is a shot of that road.
John M.
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David K
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John, around each post on Nomad (top and bottom) are some 'buttons'... the first one is 'Quote', then 'Report', Profile, Find, U2U.
Click on 'Quote' instead of 'Post Reply' and you will be getting that feature!
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David K
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Santa Ana
Photos and GPS in my site at: http://vivabaja.com/703/page4.html
Went there in July of '03 from San Borja... tough road, Baja pin stripes, not used anymore as all the ranches in there are abandoned (were). Came out
a better road that swings back north to the Rosarito-San Borja road. I have more GPS data if you want it to find the roads in.
Chris M. ('bajataco' on Nomad) has a great photo of the big graves at the Santa Ana cemetery next to the rock one I photographed...
http://www.bajataco.com/Baja/Padres-at-Rest.html Here it is from bajataco's web site...
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Ohhhhh - So that was San Gregorio!!!! And I had visions of rehabbing the place and planting tomatoes!! Ha!
But to answer an earlier question about gifts for the family, yes, the younger boys are now 12 and 17, and their sister had a baby who is now almost a
year old - a girl. I think some baby toys or baby care items would be welcomed. Jose's wife does a lot of crocheting, so some crochet yarn (thread?)
might be nice. Henry is sleeping under a open shelter which was probably built out of necessity after their newer members of the family moved in. He
might need a sleeping bag. I bring pasta and cookies for the whole family - now 7 of them. If you ask them for guide services of some kind, just a
big cash tip would be great too.
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Santa Ana
Thanks David, I know the road - haven't been on it. Next trip perhaps. I wasn't aware of Santa Ana being classified as a visita. Neat cemetary photos.
John M
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bAJATACO's picture is the one that made me think about going to this place (padres at rest) even do is not for sure if real padres are buried there,
could be anybody related to the church.
Thanks for the 411 on jose's family Wilderone  
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It is between San Borja and San Gregorio... closer to San Gregorio... I think about 7 miles from San Borja. There is a cross on top of the lava tower.
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So David K let me get this right. from SBorja 7 ml to the lava tower
and from there how long is SG ranch, and one more think on the Montevideo rd how do I know when Im there (paintings) do I go by the mileage that you
post it on your reports.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by John M
First of all, how do you quys get those quotes from a previous post to appear in the neat little boxes?
BajaCat, you wrote:
Thanks Neal I will try to see as much as I can so far is the mule trip to the aguaje,the hot springs (rather warm springs as everybody keeps saying.)
and now the Rancho Gregorio trail that you mention hopefully I will make time to go see The Santa Ana visita. and Montevideo.
My question, what do you know of the Santa Ana visita? I've begun to try to learn a bit about the San Borja area and have not seen reference to a
visita in the San Borja region by that name.
Montevideo is worth seeing - a wonderful side trip. And you want a pretty drive - than do make the trip to San Gregorio, here is a shot of that road.
John M.
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John I do not know A whole lot, thats why I have included Sborja to my trip
and like I told Dk Bajataco's picture of padres at rest made me want to visit Santa Ana too.. And also I want to update the pictures of SBorja I
have'nt seen any recent ones...
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by John M
Thanks David, I know the road - haven't been on it. Next trip perhaps. I wasn't aware of Santa Ana being classified as a visita. Neat cemetary photos.
John M |
John, see page 125 of the Lower Calif. Guidebook, just below the listing of San Ignacio (which reads in part: Cattle ranch with a small garden, one of
the old visiting stations of San Borja mission.):
"Road left to Santa Ana (ranch, 5.6 mi.), another former visiting station of San Borja mission. Ruins of the chapel and irrigation ditch may still be
seen. The road continues to San Gregorio, 19.3 mi. from junction."
Of interest, other visiting stations of San Borja are: San Miguel and San Regis to the south, Guadalupe to the north, and Los Angeles (on the bay to
the northeast, 'L.A. Bay'). Calamajue was also a visiting station (that later became the first site for Santa Maria mission)... during wet years when
the highly mineralized water was greatly diluted. In 1767, the water was not so diluted and crops would not grow, forcing a move to the final site of
Santa Maria de los Angeles.
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