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Bruce R Leech
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Could some of you Nomads in Santa Rosalia, San Bruno, and San Lucas ask some fisherman if they herd anything strange.
and also put it out on the uhf in spanish.
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Summanus
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Bruce, you meant VHF, but they will get the message.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Summanus
San Bruno...San Lucas ...Sta. Rosalia areas. A word on the VHF radio out there might help to get notice to the fisherfolk...
channel 72 over there?..or maybe 22? |
Typically 72 in that area.
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What do they think, that we are in the dark ages in San Lucas Cove, I knew about the situation within 15 minutes of Mike's post and have put the word
out.
Another plane that took off at the same time made it but reported the worst flying conditions of his entire career. That and the fact that the
person missing was flying a "V-tailed Doctor Killer" and you have the possibility of a real problem.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
What do they think, that we are in the dark ages in San Lucas Cove, I knew about the situation within 15 minutes of Mike's post and have put the word
out.
Another plane that took off at the same time made it but reported the worst flying conditions of his entire career. That and the fact that the
person missing was flying a "V-tailed Doctor Killer" and you have the possibility of a real problem. |
thanks Pescador keep putting it out their and in Spanish if you can. and everyone else also
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Summanus
Bruce, you meant VHF, but they will get the message. |
you are right.
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capt. mike
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the info is at the BBP site, thx Pescador too.
left on the 23rd, came back, waited 2 hours and went out again. in the morning. was talking to 2 other flyers ahead north and might have attempted
some IMC in a climb to get between layers but didn't call back. fear is he lost spatial control and might have augered in. the thing with a v tail is
once in an incipient stall you spin immediately and getting it out of rotation is tough if you're not quick. lots of "Dr.s" did it because even if
they could buy one, if they weren't regularly proficient that plane would get a head of you real quick. they're fast but dangerous if you aren't on
top of them. so Beech finally quit building them after too many product liability suits. fact is its a great plane otherwise.
based on where he was, between chivato and santa rosalia, maybe north a ways more, it might have gone in the drink.
several BBPers are on an aerial search today.
i will be south next weekend 10-12 on a sams mission and am going to look in the mountains from BOLA to Serenidad.
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Bruce R Leech
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thanks for the update Mike I hope some one can get to that area before the 10th. also I hope all the fisherman are looking for anything floating in
the water and on the beaches.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
then they should move it to the other thread and tell people what they are doing and why. |
Bruce, since
there was a link to the original thread in a later thread that I closed, I didn't think an explanation would be necessary.
Sorry if that was not the case.
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What were the weather conditions like. I heard there was a strong Norther around that time. Santa Anas were in SoCal several days before then.
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it was really crappy, rain, thunder, lightning across much of the area from mulege to san felipe from pireps on the BBP site. one guy enroute same
time from hermosillo to calexico said everything west of him from BOLA north was very dark. made no sense to attack it unless you were IFR, current on
guages and in an AC that was capable - and still no real reason to HAVE to fly! waiting it out only made sense. "get-home-itis" takes another one down
i guess.
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Mike do you know if BBP is flying serch down this far yet?
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Thursday, November 2nd
Update
Four aiplanes were out searching yesterday and they were out flying again early this morning and will be searching again today. The ELT that was
reported to San Felipe was to an aircraft in Bay of Los Angeles that had tripped it´s ELT. We have nothing new to report on the missing aircraft at
the moment.
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Flying in Bad Weather
Back when I was a youngster first taking Flying Lessons in the 60s, there was a well-known proverb regarding General Aviation which stated: "If you've
got time to spare, go by air".
During the time period when I flew as a private pilot (1960s-1980s), although there were a number of occasions when I flew in less than perfect
conditions, I never hesitated to remain on the ground when conditions were such that I felt they could go beyond my capability to make it safely to my
destination.
It is unfortunate and sad, but common, for Private pilots (and sometimes professionals) to either under-estimate the severity of the weather
conditions or over-estimate their capabilities to handle those conditions.
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Mike, I was out fishing that day, or should I say I was attempting to fish since we had friends from Alaska. It was impossible as well as dangerous
to be on the water that day. We tried three times to get out of the cove. There was severe lightning, strong wind gusts, heavy virga, and torrential
rains at times. I hate to say anything negative here but it was a day that I would have sat on the ground and not flown but it was also one of those
sucker days when you thought you might get a break and go for it. We tried it with the boat and came back in three times.
We were talking to Don Johnson and he talked to one of the pilots who made the flight that day and he reported that it was the worst flight he had
ever experienced.
San Marcos Mike was on the north side of San Marcos Island for a little while that morning and Ed Hogan from San Bruno was on his way to Tortuga
but both turned back due to weather, but neither report seeing or hearing anything that day.
Unless something floats up or some other clue pops up it sure looks like a deep water landing. I remember the plane that was ditched in front of
Tembabiche and except for the door nothing ever floated up on that plane.
We did see and hear a lot of planes yesterday and today in front of San Lucas Cove from Chivato to Santa Rosalia.
Really sad
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capt. mike
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yes Jim, sad but true comment. it is valuable input.
[Edited on 11-3-2006 by capt. mike]
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Okay, I can't just sit here and read this any longer. I gotta do something!
I gave a sit rep to Ralph XE2/N6MNO at Rancho Santa Ines this morning when I spoke to him on 40 meters after I had completed my net control duties on
the Baja Maritime Net. He will pass the info on to anybody who flies/drives thru Rancho Santa Ines and may be going thru the area presumed as a flight
path.
Don't ask me why I didn't I think to tell everybody on the Baja Maritime Net. I don't have an answer for that but I do have an offer of something I
can do to help.
I will put out a QST tomorrow morning (and Saturday and Sunday) on the Baja Maritime Net so that everybody in Baja who checks into the net will be
aware of the situation. I know that Ronnie, XE2/N7KVJ is already south of the origination point of this flight (he & Renee are south of Loreto and
going further south mañana) and Janice XE2/KG6RSL and Jay XE2/KG6RSM are south of Bay of LA and may be in the Isla San Marcos area if my memory serves
me correct. There may be other boaters/travelers who are listening to the Net that don't have the license to transmit on 40m so a QST right before
(and maybe AFTER) the weather would be a good idea. (fyi, Don, N6HG, gives a FABULOUS weather report at 0815 Pacific time and we're currently on
7.259mHz due to foreign broadcast on 7260mHz)
Let's all PRAY that this is resolved soon.
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Close to home
I have closely followed this because I too am a pilot, and my daughter flies for the airlines,
but, not until I read today's local paper did I realize that they live right next to us in Escalon.
Local people.
Does not change the level of tragedy, just brings it even closer to home.
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Elana!! mil gracias for your help passing the word. i am going to pass it on to the Tostes (their family).
i sent WB an email yesterday too. we'll talk later.
a friend in El Cahon who got hit good on the mulege flood needs a 34 footer pulled down and wants to hire someone. Thought Bill might want to do it
and i could fly him home as part of the deal.
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Propagation was great this morning and I put out the QST on both the Baja Maritime Net and the Wheels 'N' Keels net (precedes the Baja Net each
morning & also meets each evening for c-cktail hour shenanigans 5pm Pacific). Ronnie XE2/N7KVJ & Renee are already down to La Paz but
confirmed that they heard the QST 100%. Janice XE2/KG6RSL didn't check in this morning so I'm still not 100% certain about her whereabouts...I'm
pretty sure she & Jay are in the Isla San Marcos area (for all I know they coulda been just listening while busy in the galley). Patrick, XF1GSD,
at Pto Lopez Mateos heard it and will disseminate the info from there. Ralph XE2/N6MNO said that he told Terrible Herbst air support crew as they
paused at Rancho Santa Ines yesterday and will continue to mention it to travelers (air or auto) who are southbound. I'll make the QST again tomorrow
& Sunday. In the meantime, we'll keep praying.
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