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David K
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Exactly Jesse... I didn't want to say anything before Antonio could, but given the direction of this thread and what had already been posted... I
wanted everyone to understand what Bernie was so emotional about to understand why he is reacting so strongly. I do think we all can grieve in our own
way.
I sure hope 2007 is a better year for everyone, this one has just been far to hard on most!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
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I sure hope 2007 is a better year for everyone, this one has just been far to hard on most! |
AMEN!
Grieving has several stages, and everyone goes through them at a different pace.
It's alright to have a rant, and equally it's alright to be silent, or to be silly or which way ever one deals with a trauma.
This Board has proved to be full with caring people the last couple month, maybe all has been really too much lately.
That can make one thin skinned, even though ones!
I'm a newbie to this Board, comparing to other members.
Out of respect, or lack of knowledge I wouldn't post on a thread with such an serious issue (as on the one from Doug), especially when told to be
careful.
Sorry BERNIE that this is hurting you so much. And it's alright to get it off your chest.
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toneart
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STOP1
The need for silence should be apparent and respected. It is more important than anyone's personal need to continue this string. I suggest that it be
allowed to end. Communicate privately through U2Us.
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I now better understand. The more I know, the sadder I am. I feel angry when good, vital people die. We are left to feel the void that their leaving
us holds. I sincerly express my regrets for the losses of those on this list and for the people of TJ and Mexico. We are diminished.
I have no more words.
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capt. mike
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sorry to hear. never met cactus, seems like a good joe tho. mexico and baja will not change soon, my buddies plane seems to have been ripped from
mulege yesterday - no one ever expected aircraft theft from el gallito with the hotel on grounds and the military there 24/7 - so.............wTF!!
they steal 210s and for one purpose............drugs.
now i am hearing from several that own nice planes that they are done if mulege can't be trusted. too bad, lost revenue for the johnsons and the town.
and the peninsula for that matter.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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BajaCactus
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The truth should be spoken...
Hi this is Lorenia Gaxiola AKA Sra. Baja Cactus.
I'm in Antonio's laptop and I'm not to good writing in english, so I will do it in spanish and I hope someone here can translate... Antonio is not in
here at this time, but I need to write, and I do not want him to translate for obvious reasons.
Amigos:
El dolor toco mi casa, mi familia, mi sangre...la muerte llego de una manera muy fuerte y dolorosa, todo estaba listo para que con mis hermanos
murieran tambien las almas de mis 4 hermanas y mi hermano sobrevivientes, para que perdieramos a mi madre por el dolor tan grande, por la daga que
habia atravesado nuestras vidas, pero no fue asi y por eso hoy les escribo. Se que somos humanos y tenemos miedos y dudas por eso yo les voy a decir
quienes fueron en este mundo mis hermanos....
Yo soy la tercera hija de una familia de 3 hombres y 5 mujeres, mi padre era un amante de la Baja y el hombre mas honesto, honrado, recto y formal
que he conocido en la vida, y asi nos educo a todos sus hijos. Mi hermano Gerardo fue un hombre trabajador, se caso a los 18 anos y desde entonces se
dedico a cuidar de su esposa y su familia, de recien casado tuvo hasta tres trabajos, la vida es dura en Mexico, yo lo vi levantandose a las 7 de la
manana para lavar los pisoso en un supermeracado, salir corriendo a las 3 de la tarde para ir a trabajar a una maquiladora y despues arreglar carros
el dia libre para poder mantener a su familia, mas tarde el emigro legalmente a los Estados Unidos y tambien trabajo muy duro, gracias a su
conocimiento en mecanica automotriz trabajo en mossy nissan, y como habia estudiado hasta la escuela preparatoria una carrera tecnica en
administracion, decidio poner su negocio de venta de carros usados aqui en Mexico y otro en Estados Unidos, el tenia 2 hijas y un hijo, su esposa esta
enferma de cancer desde hace mas de 5 anos, como veran el era un hombre que tenia muchas razones para vivir, y todo lo que tenia lo habia ganado de
una forma honesta, su familia vive en un departamento rentado en Estados Unidos porque es muy dificil pagar una hipoteca en Estados Unidos.
Ahora les hablare de Hector, desde pequeno Hector se sintio atraido por la policia, el concepto de atrapar a los malos era el todo de su vida desde
que empezo a entender este mundo, el era "Bosley" y nosotras los "Angeles de Charly" en los juegos de ninos, estudio hace 14 anos la academia de
policia, tiene una preciosa familia y 10 anos de casado, pagaba 400 dolares mensuales de la hipoteca de su casa aqui en Tijuana, en sus tiempos libres
compraba carros en los remates americanos, los arreglaba y los vendia aqui en Tijuana para ayudar a su economia familiar, su esposa tambien trabaja y
sus 2 hijos van a escuelas publicas. Como veran ellos no tenian una vida opulenta, ni estaban llenos de dinero como aqui ha dicho la prensa. Ellos
fueron buenos seres humanos.
Que paso entonces, exactamente no lo se... lo unico que se es que cuando alguien atento el dia jueves contra la vida de mi hermano Hector, el le llamo
al nextel a Gerardo, le dijo que estaba en la estacion de policia de la calle 8 y Gerardo, queriendo proteger a su hermano, se fue inmediatamente a
buscarlo, desde que lo vio no volvio a separse de el, estuvo a su lado "para cuidarlo", para que nadie lo lastimara, ellos hablaron con nosotros y nos
dijeron que estaban rodeados de policias y que estaban seguros, que estaban en la estacion de la calle 8, la ultima llamada con ellos fua a las 9 de
la noche...
De lo demas no sabemos nada, ellos no fueron torturados, yo personalmente vi sus cuerpos, los destrozaron porque el arma utilizada era demasiado
potente, y hace mucho dano, estaban esposados el uno con el otro, uno de su mano derecha y el otro de la mano izquiera, como pueden ver murieron
juntos, el mas grande protegiendo al mas pequeno, como mi Padre lo hubiera querido, cuidandonos los unos a los otros.
Se que esto sera muy duro de ler para muchos, pero en nombre de la vida de mis hermanos les pido que tengan Paz, Dios se ha manifestado en la vida de
todos nosotros de una manera increible, si alguien me lo hubiera contado yo hubiera creido que esa persona habia enloquecido, pero no es asi, estamos
tranquilos, estamos felices porque el mensaje de paz de Dios nuestro Senor fue recibido, y asi queremos que esten ustedes tambien. Gracias por todo su
amor, gracias por su coraje e indignacion, es repudiable como el narcotrafico y la mala voluntad ha lastimado nuestras vidas y nos ha arrebatado la
vida de nuestros hermanos, y estoy de acuerdo que mientras haya consumidores esto va a seguir. Porque al final de cuentas todo esto paso por DINERO,
porque alguien quiere seguir siendo rico....o mas rico...
Ahora no me pregunto que paso, porque no soluciono nada con saberlo, porque nuestras vidas estan llenas de cosas buenas venidas de Dios y queremos que
asi sigan, ahora yo estoy haciendo oracion y le pido a Dios que les de a todos ustedes la calma y el amor que sus corazones necesitan, desde este foro
le mando la bendicion a los asesinos de mis hermanos, a los que traicionaron a Hector y a los que ordenaron su muerte, a todos aquellos involucrados
que Dios les llene de su Luz y que sea Dios quien haga justicia Divina.
Senores....amigos y amigas....yo solo pido PAZ EN LA TIERRA A LOS HOMBRES DE BUENA VOLUNTAD....y que dios nos bendiga a todos. Gracias
Su amiga,
Lorenia Gaxiola Gamez
[Edited on 11-13-2006 by BajaCactus]
BajaCactus
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bajajudy
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Lorenia
Su dolor es mi dolor
Por favor acepte mis condolencias y oraciones para su familia
Judy
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jerry
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i hope someone will transulate this for us dummys
jerry and judi
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Baja Bernie
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I could read a lot of it but not enough to translate---It is powerful!
Someone does need to translate it for the rest of us.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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vgabndo
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What a remarkable woman! What incredible strength, and faith. What a terrible waste of two hard-working family men.
I'm so sorry this came to pass. Will there ever be JUSTICE?
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Minnow
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estamos contigo, pues nos has hecho sentir tu dolor junto con tu compacion y valor, no siempre en esta vida todo es justo, nos da coraje la injusticia
por la que tu familia esta pasando, te admiramos por la fuerza y el gran soporte que eres para tu familia, sinceramente lamentamos su perdida, e de
admitir que en lo personal su historia quedara grabada en mi mente y en mi corazon gracias a ti gran autora.
nuestras condolencias para ti y tu familia Lorenia.
QUE DIOS LOS BENDIGA, NUESTROS RESOS PARA SUS ALMAS Y LA PAZ EN TU FAMILIA.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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I have lost many close friends in similar situations and thats one of the reasons why i left Tijuana. Been to too many funerals where mothers and
brothers and sons where left with broken hearts. I hope Sra Gaxiola takes comfort in the fact that compared to other similar situations, the word is
that her two relatives where clean and honest productive members of society. I know this wont heal the huge pain they feel in their hearts, but rarely
these days do you learn about a Police officer who was clean and honest and DID NOT deserve what happened.
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Oso
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Unless someone else has already started, I'll give the translation a try. Give me about an hour and I'll post it here.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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bajalou
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Thanks Oso, I've been waiting for your help.
No Bad Days
\"Never argue with an idiot. People watching may not be able to tell the difference\"
\"The trouble with doing nothing is - how do I know when I\'m done?\"
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BajaCactus
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The truth should be spoken...
Hi this is Lorenia Gaxiola AKA Sra. Baja Cactus.
I'm in Antonio's laptop and I'm not to good writing in english, so I will do it in spanish and I hope someone here can translate... Antonio is not in
here at this time, but I need to write, and I do not want him to translate for obvious reasons.
Amigos:
My friends:
Pain came to my home, my family, mi blood... death came to us in a very strong and painful way, everything was so that along with my brothers, also
the souls of my 4 living sisters and brother were also ready to die, for us to loose our dear mother because of the so heavy pain, for the dagger that
cut through our lives, but it was not so and this is why today I write to you.
I know that we are all humans and that we have fears and doubts and because of that I will tell you who my bothers were in this world...
I am the third daughter of a family 3 boys and 5 girls, my father was a thru Baja lover and the most honest, decent, straight forward and formal man I
have ever known in my life, and that was the way he raised all of his children.
My brother Gerardo, the oldest of all, was a hard working man, he got married when he was 18 years and since then he devoted his life to take care of
his wife and family, when he was just married he had up to three jobs, life is hard in Mexico, I saw him woke up at 7 morning to go and clean the
floors in a supermarket, then go out running at 3 in the afternoon to work in a maquiladora and then fix cars on his off day to be able to support his
family, later he legally bacame an American citizen in the United States, where he worked even harder. Thanks to his knowledge of fixing cars, he
worked in Mossy Nissan, and since he had studied Administration at College, he then decided to open up his own business of used cars, opening up a car
lot in Mexico and another one in the States. He had 2 daughters and a son, his wife is very ill, she has been struggling with cancer for 5 years now,
as you see, he was a man who had to many reasons to live, and everything he had was earned in an honest way, his family lives in a rented apartment in
the US because it is very difficult to pay for a mortage in the United States.
Now, I will tell you about Hector, since very early he felt strongly drawn to police work, the concept of upholding the law and catch criminals was
everything is his life since he began to understand this world, he was "Bosley" and we were his "Charlie's Angels" in our childhood games, 14 years
ago, he went to Police Academy, he has a beautiful family and 10 years of marriage, he paid $400 US dlls monthly of mortage for a small hous here in
Tijuana, in his free time he bought used cars at auctions in the States, he fixed them and then sold them here in Tijuana to help aliviate a bit his
family economy, his wife also works and his son and daughter go to public schools.
As you all can see, they did not have an opulent life, nor were they rich and full of money as the press has been implying or saying. They were good
human beings.
What happened then, I do not exactly know... the only think I know is that when someone threatened against my brother Hector's life on thursday, he
called Gerardo over his Nextel, who was in the States, he told him he was at the Police Station in downtown at 8th street, and Gerardo, wanting to
protect his little brother, inmediately came to his rescue, since he saw him, he never left his side in order "to protect" him, so nobody could harm
him. They spoke to us over the phone and told us they were surrounded by police escorts and that they were safe, that they were at the Police Station
at 8th street, the last call with them was at 9 in the night...
After that, we know nothing more, they were not tortured, I personaly saw their bodies, they were completely destroyed because the weapons used were
so very powerful and they caused so much destruction, they were handcuffed to each other, one on his right hand and the other on the left, as you can
see, they died together, the older protecting the little brother, as my father would had wished, all of us taking care of each other.
I know this will very hard to read for many, but in the name of my brother's lifes, I ask you to have peace, our Lord has manifested himself in all
our lifes in an incredible way, if someone had told me I would have believed that person had become insane, but it is not so, we are peaceful, we are
happy because the message of peace God gave us, has been received, and that is how we would like for you to be and feel.
Thank you so much for your love, thank you for your anger and indignation, it is hateful how the organized crime and the bad will has harm our lifes
and has ripped away the life of our brothers, and I agree that while we have consumers this will keep happening. Because at the end, this all happened
because of MONEY, because someone wants to be richer... or more rich...
Now I do not asked what happened, because there is nothing to gain with it, because our lives are filled with so many good things that come from God
and we want them to keep them coming, now I am praying and I ask God that he gives you all the peace and love you all need in your hearts, from this
forums I send my blessings to my brother's assasins, to those who betrayed Hector and to those who ordered their deaths, to all those involved I ask
that God fills them with his light and that is God who makes divine justice.
My friends... I only ask for PEACE ON EARHT TO ALL MAN OF GOOD WILL...and let God Bless us all.
Thank you.
Your friend.
Lorenia Gaxiola Gamez
[Edited on 11-14-2006 by BajaCactus]
BajaCactus
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Oso
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Can't improve on that... Just finished my translation offline, almost identical but it's better coming from Antonio.
That was a tough one, for many reasons.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Diver
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Thank you so much for sharing with us.
Your writings are some of the most beautiful thoughts I have read.
You are an amazing woman.
Best wishes of much future happiness for your family.
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David K
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There are no words... I am just so sorry for the pain that has come to the entire family... a wonderful family...
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Gracias Lorenia
Admiro tu fé y cordura en estos momentos tan dificiles.
Thank you Lorenia;
I admire your faith and wisdome in these difficult times.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaCactus
Hi this is Lorenia Gaxiola AKA Sra. Baja Cactus.
Now I do not asked what happened, because there is nothing to gain with it, because our lives are filled with so many good things that come from God
and we want them to keep them coming, now I am praying and I ask God that he gives you all the peace and love you all need in your hearts, from this
forums I send my blessings to my brother's assasins, to those who betrayed Hector and to those who ordered their deaths, to all those involved I ask
that God fills them with his light and that is God who makes divine justice.
My friends... I only ask for PEACE ON EARHT TO ALL MAN OF GOOD WILL...and let God Bless us all.
Thank you.
Your friend.
Lorenia Gaxiola Gamez
[Edited on 11-14-2006 by BajaCactus] |
I wish I could be as altruistic, after such an tragedy happened to me.
What a strong person, what a powerful statement is this letter!
One must be very happy to have a sister/wife/friend of this quality.
My deepest respect !!! along with my condolences !!
farasha
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