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MrBillM
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Brilliant "Mexican" Scientists ?
Not having heard a lot regarding said scientists, WHO exactly, are they ? What are their credentials and accomplishments ?
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fdt
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Lencho
 Cant stop laughing, just noticed your mood after reading Mrbill and the captain
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Cypress
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Regarding the New Orleans evacuation. You ought to address that question to the "right honorable Mayor", Mr Ray Nagin.
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Tomas Tierra
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Nagin please.
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Capt. George
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you can call me Ray, and you can call me Jay, but ya doesn't hafta call me Mayor Nagin!!!
as soon as the geniuses fix Rosallilitta, they're gonna put their heads together with the Mayor and get all in order, north & south of the border.
the captain (fdt, I like that, "the captain")
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Sculpin
Gee...maybe the La Paz "experts" consulted with the USGS before arriving?!?
Considering that most vulcanologists throughout the world probabaly go through the USGS at some point in their carreers, it's not an erroneous
assumption that any type of analysis would also go through there. |
When it comes to earthquake research the Japanese have most people beat. However, the USGS is respected internationally as an authority and have
extensive knowledge about tectonic plate movement, earthquakes, and volcanoes.
I'd also think that Geologists from DF would know a thing or two about volcanos as well since they live right under an active volcano.
The word Geology means littarally the study of earthly things. I don't think Geologists are overly concerened with language, borders, or customs.
They care about the earth. If someone can offer answers, I don't care where they come from or live.
We are all trying to seek the truth and the facts. For some, the path to finding answers may be easier to deal with someone from their own culture.
Either way. Let's see what the guys and gals, be they Mexican, American, or Japanese, who study the earth come up with some answers. There is no
arrogance about the search for truth and fact; although, we will may get something else in the end.
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Bob H
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Why don't we see anything in the news here in San Diego about this activity? There is nothing reported about this on the news channels our the San
Diego Union Tribune. If there was a 6point-something, you'd think we'd hear about it locally.
Bob H
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Why don't we see anything in the news here in San Diego about this activity? There is nothing reported about this on the news channels our the San
Diego Union Tribune. If there was a 6point-something, you'd think we'd hear about it locally.
Bob H |
Good question! I have been critical of the U.S. Press regarding other newsworthy events in Baja; Mulege flood, violence, and now this. Several Nomads
kept badgering the San Diego Union and other media after the Mulege flood because nothing was being reported. The press can make a difference in how
quickly aid can be mobilized and possibly save lives. Again, the BajaNomad forums were the only link to the outside world and the only source of
information. After much delay, Nomad Lindsay was able to personally contact S.D. Union reporter Sandra Dibble and she took a personal interest in Baja
then, and since then regarding other Baja events.
CNN had one reporter in Cabo San Lucas when Hurricane John was threatening. It eventually brushed by, but missed Cabo as a target and hit headlong
into the east cape. Then it proceeded to sweep up the Sea of Cortez, eventually stalling out over Mulege, causing so much destruction and even death.
Some poor American tourists had their vacations "spoiled" by having to stay inside their hotel for a couple of days and drink Margaritas and cerveza.
Now that's news! 
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Taco de Baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Why don't we see anything in the news here in San Diego about this activity? There is nothing reported about this on the news channels our the San
Diego Union Tribune. If there was a 6point-something, you'd think we'd hear about it locally.
Bob H |
Because eartquake happen all the time all over the World. It is news to those affected, but not to anyone else.
If the papers mentioned all the EQs larger than 3 (about the size you can feel)...that's all they would be reporting. There are over 143,000 a year
(~400 per day or 17 per hour...one every 3.5 minutes)
Acording to the USGS:
Descriptor.......Magnitude Average .....Annually
Great............... 8 and higher......................... 1 ¹
Major .............. 7 - 7.9 ...............................17 ²
Strong .............6 - 6.9 ...............................134 ²
Moderate ........ 5 - 5.9 .............................13,19 ²
Light ................4 - 4.9 ...........................13,000
(estimated)
Minor ...............3 - 3.9 ..........................130,000
(estimated)
Very Minor ....... 2 - 2.9 .......................1,300,000
(estimated)
¹ Based on observations since 1900.
² Based on observations since 1990.
Link
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Taco de Baja
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Why don't we see anything in the news here in San Diego about this activity? There is nothing reported about this on the news channels our the San
Diego Union Tribune. If there was a 6point-something, you'd think we'd hear about it locally.
Bob H |
Because eartquake happen all the time all over the World. It is news to those affected, but not to anyone else.
If the papers mentioned all the EQs larger than 3 (about the size you can feel)...that's all they would be reporting. There are over 143,000 a year
(~400 per day or 17 per hour...one every 3.5 minutes)
Acording to the USGS:
Descriptor.......Magnitude Average .....Annually
Great............... 8 and higher......................... 1 ¹
Major .............. 7 - 7.9 ...............................17 ²
Strong .............6 - 6.9 ...............................134 ²
Moderate ........ 5 - 5.9 .............................13,19 ²
Light ................4 - 4.9 ...........................13,000
(estimated)
Minor ...............3 - 3.9 ..........................130,000
(estimated)
Very Minor ....... 2 - 2.9 .......................1,300,000
(estimated)
¹ Based on observations since 1900.
² Based on observations since 1990.
Link |
I understand what you are saying, but the sequence of these events seem unusual and the reports we receive here are getting worse. An entire area has
been evacuated, etc. In my opinion we should be reading and receiving more news and information regarding the activity in this instance.
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Bruce R Leech
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I lived in a house on Loma Preata during the 1989 Loma Preata earth quake and it was a 7.1. my house was about 2000 feet from ground zero and I can
tell you it makes a big difference as to where you are. Shari is setting right on top of what is going on and makes that 4.0 feel like a 7.0 if you
were a few miles away.
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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jerry
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i think if its your house falling down around your ears and family its news worthy?? but its perfectly safe for you but im not going to be hangin
around
jerry and judi
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fdt
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It's not Cabo, that's why
It's probably due to the fact that very few people know were Asuncion is and probably never will as oposed to Cabo, San Diego's back yard playground,
with major airlines, cruise ships, major chain hotels golf courses up the burro, millions and millions of dollars spent on promotion and advertisement
for many many years. So sorry to say that I understand the SD Union, CNN, even the Sudcaliforniano for that case, it's not a big deal to them, media
can not report on every single event that happens everywere, it would not fit in any type of format. I for example now, and only because of this
board know that there is a B&B in Asuncion (GOOOOOOOOOOL), because of this board I now know there is a playa Armenta and for the life f me I cant
find a place that can tell me were to pay $50 pesos for a permit to have pepper spray. Now if we were to organize a hughe tourism board for Laguna
Hanson, Cañon de Guadalupe, Shell island, Cocos Corner, BOLA, Bahia Concepcion, lost missions and a San Bartolo bambo park, have major airlines,
cruise ships, hoards of tour busses, neon signs and get Mr. Hilton and Mr. Marriott to invest in some properties, then and only then if someone was to
tira a pedo apestoso would it hit the news in a flash
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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woody with a view
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one can only hope that when the rumbling subsides, and everyone is safe that a new reef will have risen from the depths!!!  
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bajabound2005
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it made the headlines in today's Ensenada newspaper -- that it was earthquakes and NOT a new volcano....but it would be great to get ONE thread going
with real news about the area- seems no one from that area is posting now!!
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Bruce R Leech
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in this case I think that no news is bad news. I think they would be posting if they could.
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
It's probably due to the fact that very few people know were Asuncion is and probably never will as oposed to Cabo, San Diego's back yard playground,
with major airlines, cruise ships, major chain hotels golf courses up the burro, millions and millions of dollars spent on promotion and advertisement
for many many years. So sorry to say that I understand the SD Union, CNN, even the Sudcaliforniano for that case, it's not a big deal to them, media
can not report on every single event that happens everywere, it would not fit in any type of format. |
We should have more coverage, period! This seems like a major event to me. I only hope the people in that region make it through this unscathed.
Bob H
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Iflyfish
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We have come to know and care about these very real people and so really want to know.
Those of us who have experienced major enviornmental disasters like the Loma Prieta Quake and Mt St Helens Eruption know the power of these things and
worry. Really worry. We want to know! and want to know NOW!
I hope we hear more soon from Shari. I appreciate real information.
Iflyfish when not worried about Shari and Juan
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Iflyfish
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Looks like quakes continue
DATE LAT LON MAG DEPTH REGION
01-DEC-2006 19:33:08 26.69 -114.15 4.7 10.0 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
29-NOV-2006 21:10:55 32.81 -115.98 4.0 0.1 CALIF.-BAJA CALIF. BORDER REGION
29-NOV-2006 16:15:12 26.70 -114.09 4.5 10.0 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
29-NOV-2006 14:34:02 26.62 -114.14 4.8 10.0 OFF W. COAST OF BAJA CALIFORNIA
Iflyfish
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Pescador
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I have a friend, whom we affectionately call Dirty Diesel Dave, that is building a house there. He drove up and was allowed to go check his house,
but was unable to stay there. He has been in California for lots of quakes but described the tremor there as unlike anything he had ever experienced
before. They did report a 6 on Thursday and some damage.
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