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Bajagypsy
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rts551,
I was 16 when I first went to a foreign country (Japan) on my own, no parents, no adult supervision. I lived in Tokyo for 5 months at that time. Did
I do foolish things, like get drunk and walk around Tokyo at 3:30 a.m. yes I did, was I lucky? Yes I was. The thing with youth is that you can tell
them what they should do, but they won't listen, they know more than you. Can bad things happen to young people in a foreign country? Of course they
can, but bad things can happen to you in your own country.
They will learn, I hardly ever walk around naked in foreign countries any more!
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rts551
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I see. Thanks for the education.
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David K
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Remember, Quebec is the French part of Canada... 
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Bajaboy
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DK-
Curious, is it okay to like Quebec since they are French Canadian...I don't watch Fox too often and am not certain what the spin is....
Hope you know I'm kidding with you...
Zac
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I have been reading this since it's inception and I just can't fathom why anybody actually gives a chiite.
Who cares? They had fun!
It's not like they were driving illegally on the beach or anything. |
Because we own a home there --- it is about battling the ugly American, or in this case Canadian image.
John and Diane
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David K
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Zac, this has not a thing to do with conservatism, I was responding to what Canadian Nomad bajagypsy posted in this thread:
"From what I gather, the one girl was from Quebec, they do things a bit different in Quebec, they don't have all the hang ups the rest of us have over
a naked body"...
anyway spinning is a liberal thing, right? 
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David K
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Oh, and naturally almost everybody believes the French do whatever they want and don't care what anyone thinks... right? Quebec=French
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I have been reading this since it's inception and I just can't fathom why anybody actually gives a chiite.
Who cares? They had fun!
It's not like they were driving illegally on the beach or anything. |
A lot of people care... A lot of people have fun... but most do it with common sense.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Have you ever driven on the beach?
Pee'd outdoors?
Accepted paying mordida?
Which laws do except breaking and justifying for yourselves and which law-breaking do you condemn?
I would spend zero time battling/defending any image other than your own. It sounds as if you live in a small community and that the people who live
in it are nice folks...... if that is the truth they will judge you for who you are.
[Edited on 10-22-2007 by soulpatch] |
Apples and Oranges-----it is not about the law.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Have you ever driven on the beach?
Pee'd outdoors?
Accepted paying mordida?
Which laws do you except breaking and justifying for yourselves and which law-breaking do you condemn?
I would spend zero time battling/defending any image other than your own. It sounds as if you live in a small community and that the people who live
in it are nice folks...... if that is the truth they will judge you for who you are.
Soul
At least where I live in Baja, what people do can be a reflection on others by association. Thats a concept not always understood by those that just
visit.
[Edited on 10-22-2007 by soulpatch] |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Your morals are not my morals are not my neighbors morals.
I can't really argue that.
If you are faultless then feel free to condemn others. |
What do morals or having faults have to do with cultural sensitivity, ignorance and a lack of common sense?
John
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It is unfair to make snap decisions as to what/how the "crazed" one's were or were not doing and who may or may not have thought their actions to be
linsensitive... in the future I propose that we have a committee to gather at the next demonstration(with digital cameras) and appropriate beverages
to make a juried appraisal of the activities and post a consensus report.... heck given a reasonable notice I will volunteer for the first
viewing............... I mean critique.........
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Jack, I can do it from here. Shari, point out the young French girl in the picture.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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shari
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well I tell ya, they were anything but ugly, it was one of the sweetest, most innocent sight of people truly enjoying themselves I've seen in a long
long time and it did my heart good and it was all I could do to keep my thong on! I was kidding about the crazed, they were crazy happy to be here
that's all. I know I'm in a foreign country but I don't always have to act mexican either....I don't lie and cheat on my husband and live a life of
hypocracy..when I'm in the USA, I don't act american either...I wont get into THAT. Soulpatch seems to understand the scene here...it was just some
youngsters having alot of fun...not meaning any harm or exhibitionism at all...just pure fun...no harm done.... lighten up
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
well I tell ya, they were anything but ugly, it was one of the sweetest, most innocent sight of people truly enjoying themselves I've seen in a long
long time and it did my heart good and it was all I could do to keep my thong on! I was kidding about the crazed, they were crazy happy to be here
that's all. I know I'm in a foreign country but I don't always have to act mexican either....I don't lie and cheat on my husband and live a life of
hypocracy..when I'm in the USA, I don't act american either...I wont get into THAT. Soulpatch seems to understand the scene here...it was just some
youngsters having alot of fun...not meaning any harm or exhibitionism at all...just pure fun...no harm done.... lighten up |
Lighten up? Sorry, good taste is good taste. There is an appropriate place for that type of behavior.
This sounds like all Mexican women cheat on their husbands and live a life of hypocracy?
Please be a little more specific about "acting" American. That is a very interesting comment.
Thanks
John and Diane
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shari
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Obviously as I am married to a mexican man and LOVE all our family and friends, I am NOT saying ALL mexicans are anything at all....I just used those
examples of things that are VERY common here..usually it is used in the context of men cheating on their wives but hey it takes 2 to tango and the
mexican culture is laced with well....lies....no other way to describe it...like you say, a half truth is a whole lie! Just because we are in the
midst of another culture doesn't mean we have to adopt the lifestyle lock stock and barrel...this wasn't meant to belittle or betray my mexican family
or friends, it's just the truth...it is what it is...but I for one won't be adopting the negative aspects of this culture and strive to help my amigos
and neighbours understand some of the positive things about my culture, it's all about sharing, respect yes...but this doesn't mean adopting it
always...I have changed my culture since living here, become a better person for it I think, become more polite, giving, understanding and patient to
name just a few things this culture has taught me....but there are also alot of negative things I WILL not succumb to. I will not swim in my jeans and
a t-shirt...sorry...I will not make up excuses/lies to get out of a pickle or uncomftable situation....I realize most americans don't really see the
difference in culture between american and canadian...so be it. But whether we like it or not...there are some differences. I choose not to get into
this with you. I respect the cultures of countries I am in and try not to make too much of a fool out of myself..., but I am who I am and am proud of
it. I agree with soulmate who mentioned that it's easy to call the pot black...or say, oh my THAT"S against the law ....but folks most of us break
several laws a day I'm sure particularly when it is convenient and noone is watching.....and like gypsy mentioned, try to remember back to when you
were that age....I much prefer a couple naked girls to listening to a really drunk fisherman ranting and raving about f'in mexicans...or a stuck up
surfer who thinks he owns the beach...well lets just say these kids were much less offensive than lots of tourists I have encountered in mexico.
[Edited on 10-23-2007 by shari]
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
well I tell ya, they were anything but ugly, it was one of the sweetest, most innocent sight of people truly enjoying themselves I've seen in a long
long time and it did my heart good and it was all I could do to keep my thong on! I was kidding about the crazed, they were crazy happy to be here
that's all. I know I'm in a foreign country but I don't always have to act mexican either....I don't lie and cheat on my husband and live a life of
hypocracy..when I'm in the USA, I don't act american either...I wont get into THAT. Soulpatch seems to understand the scene here...it was just some
youngsters having alot of fun...not meaning any harm or exhibitionism at all...just pure fun...no harm done.... lighten up |
Guess I don't understand how it went to cheating on your husband, living in hypocracy, etc. please educate me. Again. I am not that experienced.
As for Soulpatches comments, although well meaning I am sure, Life is not a free for all. The papers are full of fun loving kids..... that ended
up in tragedy. I am glad my kid learned a little (a little) restraint.
post script. just read your last post and perspective on Mexican marriages etc. never mind I will go back to sticking my head in the sand.
[Edited on 10-23-2007 by rts551]
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BirdDog
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I can't wait to strip naked and run through my yard next time I'm down. Cover your eyes if you don't want to see. You probably have to be pretty
close to see anything anyways.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
post script. just read your last post and perspective on Mexican marriages etc. never mind I will go back to sticking my head in the sand.
[Edited on 10-23-2007 by rts551] |
Have room for us?
John and Diane
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Bajagypsy
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I seriously can't believe that with all that is going on in the world and in Baja, this thread is still going strong. REally they were a bunch of
kids, and yes the french do things differently, heck if I had there bodies I'd be naked ALL the time!
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