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Photo of old grave near Mulege. The last photo got lost in cyberspace.
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Mango, thanks to Jack (and Fred Metcalf's photo) we now can see that you photographed the El Horno ruin!
Sharks, there are some mistakes in that list... I don't have the time now, but later will correct...
Cypress, no photos showing! Thanks for trying! Email them to me if you want some help...
Have a great day gang!
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El Horno 8/2007
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David K. Did those pics make it to you? Had some tech problems on this end.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
So very cool, gracias David. I wonder how many of these are still undiscovered. I see you got the credit you deserved. Tommy Afrika was a busy
guy
Here is a list I have from Google Earth:
List of Missions ... Mexico & California
Refs.: Wikipedia / Baja ... Wikipedia / California
MEXICO: Baja California Norté & Baja California Sur
Jesuit Establishments (1683-1767)
Misión San Bruno (1683-1685)
(1) Misión Nuestra Senora de Loreto Conchó (1697-1829)
(2) Misión San Francisco Javier Vigge Biaundó (1699-1817)
Visita de San Juan Bautista Londó (1699-1745)
(3) Misión San Juan Bautista Malbat (Liguí) (1705-1721)
(4) Misión Santa Rosalia de Mulegé (1705-1828)
(5) Misión San Jose de Comondú (1708-1827)
(6) Misión La Purisima Concepción de Cadegomó (1720-1822)
(7) Misión de Nuestra Señora del Pilar de La Paz Airapí (1720-1749)
(8) Misión Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe de Huasinapi (1720-1795)
(9) Misión Santiago de Los Coras (1721-1795)
(10) Misión Nuestra Senora de los Dolores del Sur Chillá (1721-1768)
(11) Misión San Ignacio Kadakaamán (1728-1840)
(12) Misión Estero de las Palmas de San José del Cabo Añuití (1730-1840)
(13) Misión Santa Rosa de las Palmas (Todos Santos) (1733-1840)
(14) Misión San Luis Gonzaga Chiriyaqui (1740-1768)
(15) Misión Santa Gertrudis (1752-1822)
(16) Misión San Francisco Borja (1762-1818)
Visita de Calamajué (1766-1767)
(17) Misión Santa María de los Angeles (1767-1768)
Visita de la Presentación (1769-1817)
Franciscan Establishments (1768-1773)
(1) Misión San Fernando Rey de España de Velicatá (1769-1772)
Established by Father Junipero Sierra in and taken over by the Dominicans, this is the only Franciscan mission built in Baja.
Dominican Establishments (1774-1849)
Misión San Fernando Rey de España de Velicatá (1772-1818)
Established by Father Junipero Sierra in and taken over by the Dominicans, this is the only Franciscan mission built in Baja.
(1) Misión Nuestra Señora del Santísimo Rosario de Viñacado (1774-1832)
Visita de San José de Magdalena (1774-1828)
(2) Misión Santo Domingo de la Frontera (1775-1839)
(3) Misión San Vicente Ferrer (1780-1833)
(4) Misión San Miguel Arcangel de la Frontera (1797-1834)
(5) Misión Santo Tomás de Aquino (1791-1849)
(6) Misión San Pedro Mártir de Verona (1794-1824)
(7) Misión Santa Catarina Vírgen y Mártir (1797-1840)
Visita de San Telmo (1798-1839)
(8) Misión El Descanso (San Miguel la Nueva) (1817-1834)
(9) Misión Nuestra Senora de Guadelupe del Norte (1834-1840)
David does this jive with your info. |
See my Baja Missions web page, featuring photos from Jack Swords, Kevin in OK, academicanachist, Ed Vernon and I: http://www.vivabaja.com/bajamissions/
The years each mission operated are given. However, there is new research always making changes, so we keep an open mind!
Some of the mission names in that Google list are not correct, La Presentacion should be grouped with the Franciscan section (note the date, after the
Jesuits were expelled)... Santa Catarina is the name of the village today, but the mission was Santa Catalina...
OK, back to the Charger game now...
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Near Mulege is an old graveyard surrounded by a low stone wall about 40'x40'
[Edited on 1-13-2008 by David K]
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Photo of old grave near Mulege (this and previous photo from Cypress)
[Edited on 1-13-2008 by David K]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Sharksbaja
So very cool, gracias David. I wonder how many of these are still undiscovered. I see you got the credit you deserved. Tommy Afrika was a busy
guy
Here is a list I have from Google Earth:
List of Missions ... Mexico & California
Refs.: Wikipedia / Baja ... Wikipedia / California
MEXICO: Baja California Norté & Baja California Sur
Jesuit Establishments (1683-1767)
Misión San Bruno (1683-1685)
(1) Misión Nuestra Senora de Loreto Conchó (1697-1829)
(2) Misión San Francisco Javier Vigge Biaundó (1699-1817)
Visita de San Juan Bautista Londó (1699-1745)
(3) Misión San Juan Bautista Malbat (Liguí) (1705-1721)
(4) Misión Santa Rosalia de Mulegé (1705-1828)
(5) Misión San Jose de Comondú (1708-1827)
(6) Misión La Purisima Concepción de Cadegomó (1720-1822)
(7) Misión de Nuestra Señora del Pilar de La Paz Airapí (1720-1749)
(8) Misión Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe de Huasinapi (1720-1795)
(9) Misión Santiago de Los Coras (1721-1795)
(10) Misión Nuestra Senora de los Dolores del Sur Chillá (1721-1768)
(11) Misión San Ignacio Kadakaamán (1728-1840)
(12) Misión Estero de las Palmas de San José del Cabo Añuití (1730-1840)
(13) Misión Santa Rosa de las Palmas (Todos Santos) (1733-1840)
(14) Misión San Luis Gonzaga Chiriyaqui (1740-1768)
(15) Misión Santa Gertrudis (1752-1822)
(16) Misión San Francisco Borja (1762-1818)
Visita de Calamajué (1766-1767)
(17) Misión Santa María de los Angeles (1767-1768)
Visita de la Presentación (1769-1817)
Franciscan Establishments (1768-1773)
(1) Misión San Fernando Rey de España de Velicatá (1769-1772)
Established by Father Junipero Sierra in and taken over by the Dominicans, this is the only Franciscan mission built in Baja.
Dominican Establishments (1774-1849)
Misión San Fernando Rey de España de Velicatá (1772-1818)
Established by Father Junipero Sierra in and taken over by the Dominicans, this is the only Franciscan mission built in Baja.
(1) Misión Nuestra Señora del Santísimo Rosario de Viñacado (1774-1832)
Visita de San José de Magdalena (1774-1828)
(2) Misión Santo Domingo de la Frontera (1775-1839)
(3) Misión San Vicente Ferrer (1780-1833)
(4) Misión San Miguel Arcangel de la Frontera (1797-1834)
(5) Misión Santo Tomás de Aquino (1791-1849)
(6) Misión San Pedro Mártir de Verona (1794-1824)
(7) Misión Santa Catarina Vírgen y Mártir (1797-1840)
Visita de San Telmo (1798-1839)
(8) Misión El Descanso (San Miguel la Nueva) (1817-1834)
(9) Misión Nuestra Senora de Guadelupe del Norte (1834-1840)
David does this jive with your info. |
See my Baja Missions web page, featuring photos from Jack Swords, Kevin in OK, academicanachist, Ed Vernon and I: http://www.vivabaja.com/bajamissions/
The years each mission operated are given. However, there is new research always making changes, so we keep an open mind!
Some of the mission names in that Google list are not correct, La Presentacion should be grouped with the Franciscan section (note the date, after the
Jesuits were expelled)... Santa Catarina is the name of the village today, but the mission was Santa Catalina...
OK, back to the Charger game now... |
Okay, the Chargers beat the Colts... again... so back to Baja history!
On a seperate thread on the Baja Historic Interest forum I made the following list, which gives the year a mission was founded (and the year when it
was abandoned)... year by year... along with the total # of missions open in that year:
Baja's Spanish Missions & Photos (the years each operated)
NOTE: this is a repost from June, 2004 to spawn new discussion on the fascinating history of Baja... the original California!
The Jesuits established 17 missions during their period in Baja California. The Franciscans just one at San Fernando Velicata. The Dominicans
established 9, however Dr. Jackson says the last two (Descanso and Guadalupe del Norte) were new locations for San Miguel mission, and not 'seperate'
missions.
The Franciscans and Dominicans did build at the Jesuit founded missions: Santa Maria's adobe church was built by the Franciscans. San Borja and Santa
Gertrudis stone churches were built by the Dominicans and the stone San Ignacio church was completed by the Dominicans.
As missions were established and abandoned the actual total number on the peninsula at any one time makes an interesting list.
I will use Ed Vernon's excellent book LAS MISIONES ANTIGUAS for dates. New missions will be all CAPS and just the short version of the mission name is
used. When the list shrinks, that year a mission was abandoned. Ligui was the first to be abandoned, in 1721. However, the inhabitants were moved that
year to the new mission of Dolores.
1697: LORETO
1699: SAN JAVIER, Loreto
1705: LIGUI, MULEGE, San Javier, Loreto
1708: COMONDU, Mulege, Ligui, San Javier, Loreto
1720: LA PURISIMA, LA PAZ, GUADALUPE (DEL SUR), Comondu, Mulege, Ligui, San Javier, Loreto
1721: DOLORES, La Purisima, La Paz, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier, Loreto
1724: SANTIAGO, Dolores, La Purisima, La Paz, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier, Loreto
1728: SAN IGNACIO, Santiago, Dolores, La Purisima, La Paz, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier, Loreto
1730: SAN JOSE DEL CABO, San Ignacio, Santiago, Dolores, La Purisima, La Paz, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier, Loreto
1733: SANTA ROSA (Todos Santos), San Jose del Cabo, San Ignacio, Santiago, Dolores, La Purisima, La Paz, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier,
Loreto
1737: SAN LUIS GONZAGA, Santa Rosa, San Jose del Cabo, San Ignacio, Santiago, Dolores, La Purisima, La Paz, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier,
Loreto
1748: La Paz mission was moved to Todos Santos and the two missions blended into one, called PILAR*. San José del Cabo abandoned as a mission,
remained as a visita of Santiago for the next 20 years. Total: 11 missions
* This is a simplistic answer for a much more complex situation at Todos Santos, possible fodder for a seperate article.
1752: SANTA GERTRUDIS (orig. to be called Dolores del Norte), San Luis Gonzaga, Pilar, San Ignacio, Santiago, Dolores, La Purisima, Guadalupe,
Comondu, Mulege, San Javier, Loreto (12 missions)
1762: SAN BORJA, Santa Gertrudis, San Luis Gonzaga, Pilar, San Ignacio, Santiago, Dolores, La Purisima, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier, Loreto
(13 missions)
1766: SANTA MARIA founded at CALAMAJUE but moved in 1767, San Borja, Santa Gertrudis, San Luis Gonzaga, Pilar, San Ignacio, Santiago, Dolores, La
Purisima, Guadalupe, Comondu, Mulege, San Javier, Loreto (Total 14 missions operating)
1768: JESUITS removed from the New World. Their 14 missions (that year) were reduced to 12 with the ordered closing of San Luis Gonzaga and Dolores by
the Spanish government. Only Ligui, Santa Rosa, and San José del Cabo had been abandoned during their period on Baja. The mission at San José del Cabo
was re-opened by the Franciscans in 1768. Total 13 missions.
1769: SAN FERNANDO was founded by the Franciscan Junipero Serra on his way to San Diego. Total net 14 missions.
1774: DOMINICANS take over from the Franciscans who expand into Alta California, and establish ROSARIO (15 on the peninsula this year)
1775: SANTO DOMINGO added and Santa María closed (15 total missions operating)
1780: SAN VICENTE (16)
1787: SAN MIGUEL (17)
1791: SANTO TOMAS (18)
1794: SAN PEDRO MARTIR (total 19 missions operating this year, the maximum in Baja California)
1795: Guadalupe del Sur and Santiago are abandoned (17 total)
1797: SANTA CATALINA founded (18 total)
1817: DESCANSO founded and San Javier abandoned (18 total)
1818: San Borja, San Fernando abandoned (16 total)
1822: La Purisima, Santa Gertrudis abandoned (14 total)
1824: San Pedro Martir abandoned ( 13 total )
1827: Comondu abandoned ( 12 total )
1828: Mulege abandoned ( 11 total )
1829: Loreto abandoned ( 10 total )
1832: Rosario abandoned ( 9 total )
1833: San Vicente, San Miguel abandoned (7 total)
1834: GUADALUPE (DEL NORTE) founded, Descanso abandoned. Remaining missions still operating this year: San Ignacio, San Jose del Cabo, Santo Domingo,
Santo Tomas, Santa Catarina, Pilar (Todos Santos) TOTAL in 1834: 7
Of interest, Guadalupe del Norte was the last California mission founded (Baja and Alta).
Note: Various authors have various dates for the missions' operation.
The last mission officially operating was Santo Tomas, until 1849. The others that were still open all closed in 1839 to 1840.
[Edited on 1-23-2014 by David K]
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David K Thanks for posting those pics.
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Ok, If this works, thank's to David K
El Horno 8 / 2007
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Now that I know how to do this, here are three more pics. from my motorcycle trip last Sept.
I was told that these are the remains of mision La Purisma
(not vieja).
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La Purisma
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La Purisma
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Here's a photo of the mission location from Jack... notice the peak 'El Pilon' in the background:
Here was the La Purisma mission church about 1905 before it fell:
[Edited on 1-23-2014 by David K]
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David, the pictures from that trip That i made on April/06.I developed the pix,and didn't botther to get a cd,you see the camera wasn't a digital one.
so what I did I took a pix of the original pix,so it's not going to be that great.This walls ruins are located a few feet next to the Padres
cementery.I think they are the same ones from your pix.it was fun getting there,I put alot battle scare's to my truck,but it was all worth it.hehe...
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pix #2
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Cool! I didn't notice any adobe ruins when we came upon the big tombs 'padres at rest'... I will have to go back!
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The mission road between Loreto and San Javier, which followed an Indian trail through Las Parras canyon, was widened by a work crew of nine soldiers
and some friendlyl Indians. They were directed by a captain from the Loreto presidio who had opened roads through the Barranca del Cobre on the
mainland, and accompanied by Padre Francisco Piccolo.
The path the workers widened, using crowbars, picks, axes and spades, skirted towering cliffs and descended into deep ravines. The surface was strewn
with so many sharp rocks that the men's shoes wore out and had to be resoled.
One day they came to a place where it was obvious that the project was going to take several months, far longeer than had been planned. Padre
Salvatierrs wrote that while the men in charge were trying to figure out what to do, "an Indian from Vigge came and said it was more practical to make
the road on the other side.
"Don Cristobal Guitierrez and soldier Melchor de Luna accompanied the Indian, and later in walking a little ways they found the other trail, and on
seeing it recognized the great advantage of opening the road through there in three days instead of three months."
Yes, Guitierrez and Luna "found the other trail" and "recognized the great advantage" of the alternate route. After if had been pointed out to them by
the Indian from Vigge.
Knowing nothing about road building, this man had watched the strangers at work, had visualized what they were trying to do, and was able to transfer
their project to a site he recognized as being more suitable.
As thought processes go, those of this unschooled engineer-without-portfolio were nothing short of amazing. So they rewarded him with baptism,
bestowing on him the name they considered fitting: "Angel."
For the problem he had solved was so difficult that no mere mortal could have achieved this on his own. Angel had obviously been sent to them by
Divine Intervention from on high. [Although it seems fair to ask: if this particular mortal had been blessed with white skin, blond hair and blue
eyes, would God have found it necessary to send an angel to help out?]
[Edited on 2-25-2008 by bajalera]
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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Great story bajalera!
Thank you for adding to this thread!
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