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Sharksbaja
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Frankly, I thinks it sucks!
The double menu ploy. One in English and one in Spanish with two different prices. I take offense with this as it insults my good intentions. Which is
to spend money in that place.
I just hope they "new" entreprenuers up in the U.S. don't adopt this policy. Hell, for all I know they already do.
Problem is here that we can't exact revenge because Mexicans in America ONLY eat in Mexican restaurants!
Does it bother you?
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Alan
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I'm afraid I have never seen one yet, If I see a menu in english usually I see spanish on one side and english on the other and the prices have
always been identical.
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I'm with Alan...I've never seen one eather...
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MexicoGringoGuy
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Sanborns has this issue sometimes.. I think the Exchange rate is Very good for them!!
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lizard lips
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Two Prices?I don't think I have seen this and if I did I always carry enough pesos to cover the charge with the listed peso amount.. Please explain
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Sharksbaja
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Well I discussed this before and it happened in Mulege. I also was prompted by a recent discussion with another Baja resident.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=31071#pid3149...
The restaurant is called Donys' or is it Donis? I know it's one of those.
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guadalupe
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Could you give us some examples of the prices in dollars and pesos for the same menu item please so we can understand?
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MexicoGringoGuy
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Ok, I take offense too! It really makes me madder than hell to be singled out because I am American.. I feel like one bid bull's Eye or target, Not
a person... The Menu with Higher dollar rated (Higher than the HIGHEST exchange rate), People qouting me one price, and me sending a friend back to
ask, and it be less than half (I have done this alot! It really make sme mad when something like this happens and I usually tell them that I think
they are crooked, dishonest, etc etc. In the best Spanish I can muster up being as mad as I may be at the time!
(Example: I saw this really nice silver coin like charm for a goucho necklace I had, and I really wanted it. I knew the prices of Silver and I knew
the quality etc... BUT alone I asked the price, and was quoted 750 pesos, PERO con discuento es 650 pesos... I about fell over, I pretended all the
sudden I was impressed and that it must be cartier or something, so I said thanks and left... well I met back up with my ex, (Mexican) I sent him to
go ask.... he came back 20 bucks... She asked for 300 pesos he paid 200..... We both went back and I told her what I thought of her dishonest
dealisngs and thretned to call the tourist board, etc etc.. and my ex laid it on too! (This was in Acapulco)
Devils Advocate now: 
I used to run a Hotel on Duval Street in Key West, FL, and we locals , Every year would go to 1 of many local merchants to get the yearly Key West
Locals ID card (with valid proof of residence) and it was used for substantial disounts on ALOT of things!!! I know, I know, its a resident thing in
Key West Compared to a Being a gringo in TJ, BUT I think it happend to Europeans, , or anyone NOT from here.. So??
Tony
[Edited on 7-17-2008 by MexicoGringoGuy]
[Edited on 7-17-2008 by MexicoGringoGuy]
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vandy
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I see this all the time!
The Mexican side will say "tacos.....$10" meaning ten pesos
The English side will say "tacos.....$10" meaning ten dollars, of course!
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Maybe people would be better served if they thought for themselves instead of letting a menu think for you. Pay in coin of the realm and avoid the
head trip.
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Bruce R Leech
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I just order in Spanish
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I just had breakfast at Donneys and as I looked at the menu I saw the same price in both the English and the Spanish areas....
I payed my check in pesos which in the currancy of México...
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lizard lips
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I take taxis all the time when I work in different cities in Mexico and find most all of them very honest when I approach them initially and speak
Spanish but when I feel I am being singled out because the way I look I just close the door and look for another cab.
When it comes to the restaurant thing I have never been a victim yet
Speaking Spanish makes all the difference with most of these boneheads. I do feel sorry for for all of the tourists who routinely get taken advantage
of.
I am in Cabo and did not want to walk the 3 miles to downtown so while I was standing on the street corner yesterday there was a taxi (van) stopped
for a light and asked him in Spanish how much to downtown. He told me 30 pesos. Of course I jumped in but if I would have asked him in English Im sure
it would have been another story! And what's up with a $75.00 charge to go to the airport from downtown! It's outrageous! Im taking the buss......
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Sharksbaja
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I guess I am lying again
| Quote: | Originally posted by rpleger
I just had breakfast at Donneys and as I looked at the menu I saw the same price in both the English and the Spanish areas....
I payed my check in pesos which in the currancy of México... |
That is the place close to the tortillaria, right?
That's great to hear! Now, can you tell me if you got the same menu my friend got? Personally I always try to get a menu in Spanish.
I suppose they KNOW you. I also suppose they would not leave menus in both languages with different prices laying about and hand a local one.
I'll never go back. Especially when the hostess adamantly insisted the menus were correctly priced. I usually pay with yen when in Mexico.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I have personally never seen two prices on a menu. I went to a place in Costa Mesa California once where the restaurant had no prices on the menu.
When I got the bill I saw why! Sticker Shock!
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MexicoGringoGuy
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I always pay in Pesos myself.. I don't ever use dollars here, In fact I sometimes have to draw out of the ATM in the states to buy a trolly ticket...
And I order in Spanish as well....
BUT..
I dont think the point was JUST that, its that it does happen, or it is attempyted in many other forms besides the Menu thing, and its wrong to do it
just because we are americans...
Some people come to mexico because it's supposedly "so cheap" and they put up with the shortcomings and problems, because its part of the charm, and
plus its cheap, BUT you start making prices the Same as the US , the word will spread and people will stop coming, and go elsewhere. (the people that
are left) Although there has always been a little known fact , that one must alway negotiate the price in Mexico... BUT now they are printing it on
menus...
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Sharksbaja
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What's a menu??!!
I'm happy to see that some of you, in fact a good percentage of you need no menu. That's what I get, but perhaps when casting your vote you decided to
be flippant because you dislike the post. It is negative afterall.
Perfect, now I've got myself confused. 
I guess that begs the next question; do you order in Spanish?
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MexicoGringoGuy
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And its usually not 2 prices on one menu... Its usually One menu in Spanish with prices in Pesos, or a Menu in ENGLISH with prices in
Dollars.... SO you would need to see both menu's to compare.... places try to hand me the English Menu, and I tell them its not neccesary that
the Spanish menu will do just fine...
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
I have personally never seen two prices on a menu. I went to a place in Costa Mesa California once where the restaurant had no prices on the menu.
When I got the bill I saw why! Sticker Shock! |
My thinking is that, while I don't believe this is THAT common in Baja, maybe these shifty servants have a few menus with jacked-up prices stashed
away. That's how I figure it.
When the OPPORTUNITY presents itself they use them. Besides, how would you know unless you sat there and could compare them to regular menus.
I might mention that Mulege has more OPPORTUNISTS per than I've witnessed anywhere. Petty theft mainly.
Of course those are more negative stories. Mulege has cooled off a lot since the "big one".
I've always tried to inject variety into my posts. It get very tedious and tiring to constantly hear bad news. Even when YOU YOURSELF are the
messenger.
pls excuse the caps
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Don Alley
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I was in Mulege today.
Stopped by Doney's and grabbed a menu. A waiter came and told me I had the Spanish menu and handed me the English one. I asked (in Spanish) if they
were the same and he said yes. Doing a quick comparison, I saw that prices in both menus were in pesos, and were identical.
So I think the problem was solved, and justice has prevailed! Hooray!
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