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[*] posted on 2-6-2009 at 04:20 AM


Great info David--that area and south is one of my favorites--still need to get back into the Sierra San Borja proper (4,000 ft or so if I recall) on one of those roads. Awesome country!
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[*] posted on 2-6-2009 at 09:05 AM


Corky, Tom said the car shape was in the 2001 photo... your closeup is the older 1960 Gulick picture... in any case, cars can/ could only get to 1/4 mile from the ranch.

Interesting anyway!




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[*] posted on 2-8-2009 at 08:21 AM


David
Those line shacks are actually "Nueno Rancho San Gregorio" and on one trip up there I met the owners Vincente and his wife, but I can't remember her name. They took us on a "tour" of the old rancho and offered to take us to some rock art that is about 1 and 1/2 hour hike away. Unfortunately I did not have the time. Vincente lives most of the time in Rosarito and just works cattle seasonally at the rancho. He recently sold the property to a couple in Bahia that run a college field station and will use the property as part of their program. I'm sure you remember Patricio in Bahia (he worked at the Pemex station long ago and had trouble making change after you paid for the gasoline, somehow the mistake always came out in his favor) any way he was born and raised at Rancho san Gregorio. I'm sure he has some interesting stories.
I have always thought it would be interesting to continue on up the valley and explore Aguaje, I have seen it from the air and there was lots of water there. Aguaje was also a source of water for the San Juan mine. Probably an emergency source since it is about a 3.5 mile hike one way from the mine.
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[*] posted on 2-8-2009 at 10:14 AM


Thanks a lot Larry for the background details!

Neal Johns and his friends rode mules (with Jose Gerardo) up to Aguaje in 2001 and the photos are here: http://vivabaja.com/neal

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[*] posted on 1-31-2015 at 09:28 PM


A couple of my photos taken in 2001 just appeared in a Facebook post, along with two of Howard Gulick's 1960 (or earlier) taken photos at Rancho San Gregorio.

I don't mind at all, but the location mentioned in the Facebook post was wrong. Like other place names in Baja, there is more than one San Gregorio.

The Facebook post had it as the one in the Sierra San Francisco, near San Pablo Canyon. The photos (however) are at a different San Gregorio, about 75 miles north... accessed from Mission San Borja, and about 9 miles southeast from the mission.




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[*] posted on 2-1-2015 at 01:28 PM


Hi,
I was mtn biking in the San Borja area in 2013, after yet another sea kayak trip in the S.O.C.
The Nuevo San Gregorio Rancho (nearby) was engaged in some alternative healing, among other activities.

Baja is rough on trucks!
(Not sure whether my pic will run the gauntlet of this site after tweaking?)
The truck was still there off a spur road. Maybe someone can date it?:

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[*] posted on 2-1-2015 at 06:10 PM


Thanks for the side view of that truck. Been there maybe since it was new?



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