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capt. mike
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what a crock..... you HAVE to PROVE $$ loss to win a defamation case.
plus - how is he going to SERVE you??
hahahah. what a riot.
plus it is the inetr effing net.
which is 99% all BS anyway.. get real.... hahaha.
who takes this crap seriously?? too much fun, man.
ooops - time for my porn show on HULU!!
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Bajahowodd
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Whatever "happened" to Eddy technically did not occur in Mexico. Nomad is a US- based business, with servers located NOB. I don't see any
jurisdiction.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by b1
MsTerieus sets forth two tenets regarding defamation. I would offer a third....one also has to prove there is some $ damage. Often a hard thing to
establish. |
Good point, B-1!
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
Truth is a complete defense. |
Maybe in San Francisco. Down here, truth is for sale. Opinions are for sale. And, so are judgements.
Everything here is for sale to the highest bidder.
You're having trouble exorcising your US legal training. Reality changes at the border. |
Yes, in San Francisco and the rest of the United States, and probably the WRITTEN LAW is the same in Mexico. What people DO with written laws, in
Mexico, may be a different story; however, I thought it might be helpful for you to know, initially, how things SHOULD work there, at least.
[Edited on 8-28-2010 by MsTerieus]
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Whatever "happened" to Eddy technically did not occur in Mexico. Nomad is a US- based business, with servers located NOB. I don't see any
jurisdiction. |
I suppose that, IF Eddy could prove his business in Mexico was harmed as a proximate cause of defamatory remarks, jurisdiction might be established.
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Russ
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Wow Dennis have a couple of those big beers and sleep well. Eddy, Go over to
Dennis' and have a couple of big beers and sleep well. A thin skinned lawyer.... what next!
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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Bajahowodd
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It's a long way from La Paz to Punta Banda, Russ.
And btw, I am not convinced that Eddy and the lawyer are the same. Just a smell test thing.
[Edited on 8-28-2010 by Bajahowodd]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
however, I thought it might be helpful for you to know, initially, how things SHOULD work there, at least.
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Thanks a lot. All of us down here really want to know how things
SHOULD work according to your perfect model........but they don't.
You're starting to irritate me with your perfect image of Mexico derived from your perfect image of life in the US.
You don't seem able to accept that you do not understand the structure here. You assume, arrogantly, that your model fits all.
It really doesn't.
Apply all of your preconceptions of the world from your narrow minded, hard earned expertise. Assume the whole world is guided by your knowledge
since you assume that because you have a law degree, everything else in this world will be amenable to your "logical" way of thinking.
Yeah....do that.
JeeezussssChreeeesto....you frustrate me no end.
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
however, I thought it might be helpful for you to know, initially, how things SHOULD work there, at least.
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Thanks a lot. All of us down here really want to know how things
SHOULD work according to your perfect model........but they don't.
You're starting to irritate me with your perfect image of Mexico derived from your perfect image of life in the US.
You don't seem able to accept that you do not understand the structure here. You assume, arrogantly, that your model fits all.
It really doesn't.
Apply all of your preconceptions of the world from your narrow minded, hard earned expertise. Assume the whole world is guided by your knowledge
since you assume that because you have a law degree, everything else in this world will be amenable to your "logical" way of thinking.
Yeah....do that.
JeeezussssChreeeesto....you frustrate me no end. |
You have arrived a a lot of conclusions about me with absolutely no basis for them. You are PROJECTING things onto me that come from your own mind,
and I suggest you step back and take a look at that (maybe in the morning).
I don't appreciate it at all when people who don't know me from scratch try to tell me how I think, what I think, or what my "preconceptions about the
world" are. You REALLY think you know these things about me?
Why is it that you go so far out of your way to alienate people, even when they are attempting (helpfully or not) to help you?
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Pescador
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Well, I went down and visited Eddy at his place about 6 years ago. The road was a mess, he had just gone through a hurricane and his aluminum boat
was way up in a tree about 100 feet off of the ground. Defamation is a real serious crime in Mexico and you need to be careful when you say anything
negative about anyone who is a national. We obviously did not stay at Eddies place because it had a pretty negative feel about it and we drove back
down the wonderful road that brought us there and went somewhere else. He was having some kind of problem with his wife and ownership at that point
and we tired of the stories very quickly. We were searching for a place to call home and they had done a good job of evicting us from Los Muertos but
this was a far shot from "paradise".
Anyway, we mentioned to someone in Los Barilles that we had been to Eddies place and he was working on some legal situation around the separation,
which caused a general laughing spell. So just tread lightly, cause who knows.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
I don't appreciate it at all when people who don't know me from scratch try to tell me how I think, what I think, or what my "preconceptions about the
world" are. You REALLY think you know these things about me?
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Well....yes, somewhat. I take what you say as clues.
"Yes, in San Francisco and the rest of the United States, and probably the WRITTEN LAW is the same in Mexico. What people DO with written laws, in
Mexico, may be a different story; however, I thought it might be helpful for you to know, initially, how things SHOULD work there, at least."
Sorry I upset you. We won't talk anymore. Ever.
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MsTerieus
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Perfect resolution. Thank you.
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Pompano
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Here's how I see the scoreboard:
MsTerieus serves 15 - love
Dennis returns 15 -15
Dennis serves 30 - 15
MsTerieus returns 30 - 30
Draw game is projected..else someone must win by 2 points.
I cannot stay up that late.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Draw game is projected..else someone must win by 2 points.
I cannot stay up that late. |
Game called due to inclement weather.
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toneart
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As a spectator, I am getting whiplash.
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capt. mike
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i meant
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Whatever "happened" to Eddy technically did not occur in Mexico. Nomad is a US- based business, with servers located NOB. I don't see any
jurisdiction. |
process servers....not computer servers.
in which court will he file? suing as a mexican or as a US citizen?
does Mexico even have due process given their napoleonic law?
mexico - what a country!!... to VISIT!
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Russ
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"Proof ... Proof, I don't need no stinking proof. Look what I paid to have the paper print. That's proof enough." That's pretty much what caused a lot
of problem for a friend of mine. Also the guy that brought defamation of character charges against my friend had "witnesses" to the "facts". How do
you prove you didn't say something?
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wessongroup
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by MsTerieus
I don't appreciate it at all when people who don't know me from scratch try to tell me how I think, what I think, or what my "preconceptions about the
world" are. You REALLY think you know these things about me?
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Well....yes, somewhat. I take what you say as clues.
"Yes, in San Francisco and the rest of the United States, and probably the WRITTEN LAW is the same in Mexico. What people DO with written laws, in
Mexico, may be a different story; however, I thought it might be helpful for you to know, initially, how things SHOULD work there, at least."
Sorry I upset you. We won't talk anymore. Ever. |
Is posting talking ? .......... Hope not, as I've so enjoyed the views on life "coming together" 
It all helps... in my opinion ... but, then we all know how I think.. we have already been over that...
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woody with a view
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forum banter is an extension of the playground in kindergarten. some kids never form an identity, most adapt and find their way to the hierarchy of
life...
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BajaNomad
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fyi...
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I received this U2U today, AM. It's a threat for legal action by eddy... |
Who has now moved on to threaten
legal action against another couple of Nomads as of this morning. His posting/u2u privs have been suspended for now.
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