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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 12:54 AM


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A simple "thanks" will do, Mengano.


No thanks are required. You have not corrected anything. You have rewritten it in a different tense, that's all.

I wrote: "hizo una gran escandalo" [made a big deal]
While you (really Zully, right?) wrote: "haciendo un gran escándalo" [making a big deal]

All you did is change to a gerund phrase. You corrected no error. You just rewrote it another way.

I wrote: "amenazandó otras con demandas" [threatened others with lawsuits]
While you wrote: "amenazando a algunas personas con demandas" [threatening some other people with lawsuits]

Again you did not correct it, you merely rewrote it with a gerund phrase.

I wrote: "les dijo que a algunos él va a meter en la carcel." [said to them that he will put some in jail.]
While you wrote:"diciéndoles que metería a algunos de ellos en la cárcel" [saying to them that he would put some of them in jail]

So all you did, was change "made" to "making", "threatened" to "threatening" and "said" to "saying". That was not a corrrection, it was a change in tenses. And yes, I know él is understood. But it is not incorrect to also write it.

"Eat?" and "Did you eat?" are both understood in English, and both mean the same thing, but the longer version is not incorrect.

And if your Spanish is so plucking good Stevie, why don't you make use of your talents and translate some of the Spanish language news for the folks here, instead of looking for a fight?

By the way, I am a published author and know a few things about good composition. Gerund phrases -- i.e. words ending in "ing" -- are considered weak and generally avoided. Direct and simple statements are the best, for example:

"To run and jump is good," is grammatically preferable to "Running and jumping are good." That's something you just won't learn after 20 years in the motor pool.

So your "corrections" are not even for the better. They are worse.

[Edited on 1-14-2012 by Mengano]




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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 07:52 AM


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By the way, I am a published author and know a few things about good composition.


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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 08:05 AM


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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 09:56 AM


Gerends???? Tenses???? You guys need to go take a nap, and chill out:o
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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 11:01 AM


Sorry to interrupt the cat fight that I'm sure has everybody enthralled, but back to the subject of the OP......

I'm not familiar with current management, back in the day when the Hideaway was managed by Beatriz and her daughters it was one of my favorite places on Baja, and I spent a couple of months a year there. It truly had a touch of "Baja Magic".

As to Eddie Beaulne, he is a Baja character. As with Justice Stewart on pornography - 'it's hard to describe, but I know it when I see it' - it's hard to capture Eddie in 25 words or less, but if you meet Eddie it's not likely that you will forget him. One thing that's almost certain is that when Eddie passed through estados unidos on the way from Canada to Mexico, he didn't stop along the way and enroll in any Dale Carnegie courses.

Here from 8 - 10 years ago is sunrise reflected in the window of my room at the Hideaway:

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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 11:07 AM


Beatriz and daughters Vero and Luli at work on the big striped marlin. I don't as a general rule kill marlin, but marlin seem to be the favorite food in El Cardonal and I did bring some back to the Hideaway.

An old lady who spent most of her waking hours in a rocking chair on her front porch reportedly said one day as she saw me pull into town, "God has sent Bill back to El Cardonal to catch a marlin so I can have the belly meat".

What was I to do? I was apparently on a mission for God.

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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 11:08 AM


On the beach in front of the hotel with part of the catch one day.

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[*] posted on 1-14-2012 at 11:17 AM


A new skylight in my room the morning after hurricane Marty blew through in 2003. Half the roof of the Hideaway blew away about 3:00 a.m.

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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 11:47 AM


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The Eddy I work with has slowed down a bit.


I guess that means he's still there. :no:

Before we all bury these two folks out of hand, I've stayed at that place several times, think it's lovely and unique, and would be overjoyed if this couple manages to bring it back to life, Eddie or no Eddie. And regarding the man himself, he's the only one I've dealt with there and in that context it's gone fine. I get the feeling he's getting a bit crotchety with years, but that could be said for a number of us here.

J&R, I wish you the best of luck and hope you can keep the place open for a while; is there a web site with more info?

The website for El Cardonal's Hide-A-Way can be found at: www.elcardonal.net


Thank you very much for your kind words and encouragement!
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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 11:54 AM


I get the feeling he's getting a bit crotchety with years, but that could be said for a number of us here.

no kidding....




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 01:36 PM


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Originally posted by Mengano
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A simple "thanks" will do, Mengano.


No thanks are required. You have not corrected anything. You have rewritten it in a different tense, that's all.

I wrote: "hizo una gran escandalo" [made a big deal]
While you (really Zully, right?) wrote: "haciendo un gran escándalo" [making a big deal]

All you did is change to a gerund phrase. You corrected no error. You just rewrote it another way.

I wrote: "amenazandó otras con demandas" [threatened others with lawsuits]
While you wrote: "amenazando a algunas personas con demandas" [threatening some other people with lawsuits]

Again you did not correct it, you merely rewrote it with a gerund phrase.

I wrote: "les dijo que a algunos él va a meter en la carcel." [said to them that he will put some in jail.]
While you wrote:"diciéndoles que metería a algunos de ellos en la cárcel" [saying to them that he would put some of them in jail]

So all you did, was change "made" to "making", "threatened" to "threatening" and "said" to "saying". That was not a corrrection, it was a change in tenses. And yes, I know él is understood. But it is not incorrect to also write it.

"Eat?" and "Did you eat?" are both understood in English, and both mean the same thing, but the longer version is not incorrect.

And if your Spanish is so plucking good Stevie, why don't you make use of your talents and translate some of the Spanish language news for the folks here, instead of looking for a fight?

By the way, I am a published author and know a few things about good composition. Gerund phrases -- i.e. words ending in "ing" -- are considered weak and generally avoided. Direct and simple statements are the best, for example:

"To run and jump is good," is grammatically preferable to "Running and jumping are good." That's something you just won't learn after 20 years in the motor pool.

So your "corrections" are not even for the better. They are worse.

[Edited on 1-14-2012 by Mengano]


So your command of Spanish is soooooooooo bad that you'll argue that all I did was "rewrite" your stuff, as in simply say it in another, equally-correct-but-worse, manner? Fly that one by any real Spanish speakers you might know--but probably don't.

You have made my day--...no, make that week--with this latest revelation about yourself. I will definitely be watching your further use of Spanish, I love the laughs. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha....:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


As for your reference that my Mexican wife had anything to do with my postings here, can't blame you for thinking that, most people who don't personally know me would probably come to the same erroneous conclusion. But, being the magnificent Internet sleuth that I know you to be, there's enough on this site alone to discard that silly notion.

Again, I will refer to that old saying I'm so fond of bringing up on such occasions: "Never argue with an idiot..."

[Edited on 1-15-2012 by Bajatripper]




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 01:47 PM


Mengano

To save you a lot off research Bajatripper was raised and went to school in La Paz.




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 04:46 PM


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To save you a lot off research Bajatripper was raised and went to school in La Paz.


Thanks for the info, Wiley. Let me fill in the blanks for you. Bajatripper was raised mainly in the Seattle, Washington area where his step-father, William C Massey, was a professor of anthropology and a well-known scholar on Baja California. Professor Massey spent much time in Baja on research grants and has published much on Baja. Bajatripper's mother has also written on Baja. He did attend school on occasion in La Paz. But, by no stretch of the imagination was he raised there.

However, none of the foregoing demonstrates he has any great knowledge of Spanish. I have invited him to translate some Spanish articles for the folks here, and so far he has not. Out here in the real world, Wiley, you have to either put up or shut up.
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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 05:24 PM


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Sorry to interrupt the cat fight that I'm sure has everybody enthralled, but back to the subject of the OP......

I'm not familiar with current management, back in the day when the Hideaway was managed by Beatriz and her daughters it was one of my favorite places on Baja, and I spent a couple of months a year there. It truly had a touch of "Baja Magic".

As to Eddie Beaulne, he is a Baja character. As with Justice Stewart on pornography - 'it's hard to describe, but I know it when I see it' - it's hard to capture Eddie in 25 words or less, but if you meet Eddie it's not likely that you will forget him. One thing that's almost certain is that when Eddie passed through estados unidos on the way from Canada to Mexico, he didn't stop along the way and enroll in any Dale Carnegie courses.

Here from 8 - 10 years ago is sunrise reflected in the window of my room at the Hideaway:


Kudos to you, Bill, and thanks. Not only for the great photos but also for the insight into the 'Baja Magic' the Hideaway must have been...and hopefully will remain. I highly regret our paths could never have crossed there, as I have yet to discover the place for myself. I will do just that later this year.

Great marlin eating photos, too. Looks like it went to a very honorable and 'hungry' cause. One in a blue moon is allowable with the fish gods, I'm sure. They know, as I do, you care for the resource.

Plus...you can good 'hoo :yes:




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 06:25 PM


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Mengano
To save you a lot off research Bajatripper was raised and went to school in La Paz.


Thanks for the info, Wiley. Let me fill in the blanks for you. Bajatripper was raised mainly in the Seattle, Washington area where his step-father, William C Massey, was a professor of anthropology and a well-known scholar on Baja California. Professor Massey spent much time in Baja on research grants and has published much on Baja. Bajatripper's mother has also written on Baja. He did attend school on occasion in La Paz. But, by no stretch of the imagination was he raised there.

However, none of the foregoing demonstrates he has any great knowledge of Spanish. I have invited him to translate some Spanish articles for the folks here, and so far he has not. Out here in the real world, Wiley, you have to either put up or shut up.


Ha, ha, ha, you vewy funny man, Mengano. Hint, Sherlock, Wiley is a personal friend of mine, so he doesn't need you to "fill in the blanks." He knows my background, but you, in your infinite arrogance, think you know better. You've been wallowing in your world of pig-crap so long that you wouldn't know the truth if it slapped you up side the head.

I do translations for others when my own projects permit--indeed, you may already have read some of my work in that area. What I can say is that I would never do any translating at your suggestion. I have no need to prove anything to you.

In the meantime, keep charging ahead in your ignorance, I'm learning more about you. This time, I'm able to verify your modus operandi since I know the subject of your rant pretty well: me. Words of advice: give it up, bud, you aren't nearly as good as you think you are.


[Edited on 1-16-2012 by Bajatripper]




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 06:36 PM


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No thanks are required. You have not corrected anything. You have rewritten it in a different tense, that's all.


Oh.

For what it's worth I counted 10 (maybe 12, depending on one's personal style) errors in your blurb, and would go far as to dispute your allegation that he changed anything to "a gerund phrase." All that ends in "ing" does not a gerund make, as I reckon you know.


And even with some errors it's more legible than the written English of a few here... so don't let us grammar grinches put you off... :-)


Thanks for your opinion, Lencho. For the record, I don't usually make the point I did with Mengano's work. I took exception for how he used it (I tire real quick of people who use their limited foreign language skills to cuss people/things out--low marks in character) and because, well,...it's Mengano and that guy tends to hold all to standards that he doesn't meet himself; he needs leveling once in a while (although he shows every sign of being a very intellingent, well-informed person in English--hat's off to him for that).




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 07:46 PM


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Words of advice: give it up, bud, you aren't nearly as good as you think you are.
Most of us aren't, the crux is how to deal with those moments when it slaps us side o' the head. :lol:


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[*] posted on 1-16-2012 at 11:05 AM


The new couple taking care of El Cardonal's hide-a-way are doing a great job. They have the restaurant open and also make excellent bakery items. I believe that Eddie does show up on occasion, but spends most of his time in La Paz.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2012 at 11:15 AM


Geesh jwylie....you interupted the peeing contest.



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