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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Well, keep in mind there was no Mex. 3 between Ensenada and San Felipe until about 30 years ago... and before then it was BC Hwy. 16... and pavement
didn't reach Hwy. 5 until late in 1977/ early 1978.
Pole line road probably went to Santa Catarina (near today's Independencia) and to El Alamo?
In 1967, pavement went about 10 miles out from Ensenada... and the rest was dirt road... no Hwy. designation, not graded. We got lost on the south end
of Diablo Dry Lake and went to Rancho Algodon, before turning back and heading to San Felipe! Fun times!
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True dat! Did do some cursory searches in the National Archives and other places for history of the road but didn't turn up much except to learn
about Mexico's involvement in the war---in fact they had their own regiment(?) in the Phillipines. They were neutral in the war until two of their
oil tankers were torpedoed by the Germans---in fact I think one of the tanker's names was the "Baja California"----reason enough!
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David K
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Good research Steve! The road was attached to the radar station at San Felipe (and there is even confusion if it was next to the village or out by
Punta Diggs/ Punta Estrella... Punta Radar?).
In Gene Kira's web pages (MexFish.com) is a story written by the son of a delivery man that brought food to the U.S. station at San Felipe from
Calexico.
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David K
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Worth a bump up!
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I had been looking for this thread, and I finally found it. This was a really challenging route for my Jeep friends - Mano Canyon was really tough!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
I had been looking for this thread, and I finally found it. This was a really challenging route for my Jeep friends - Mano Canyon was really tough!
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Ken, several of your photos/ maps that were in this thread are recently gone... as if you moved them on Photobucket? Can you replace them... The one
of Basketball Hill from many years ago in particular. (Remember to set the Photobucket upload size to 800 pixels to fill, but not distort Nomad)
Thank you!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
I had been looking for this thread, and I finally found it. This was a really challenging route for my Jeep friends - Mano Canyon was really tough!
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Mono canyon is a Toyota route others will pay the price.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
I had been looking for this thread, and I finally found it. This was a really challenging route for my Jeep friends - Mano Canyon was really tough!
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Ken, several of your photos/ maps that were in this thread are recently gone... as if you moved them on Photobucket? Can you replace them... The one
of Basketball Hill from many years ago in particular. (Remember to set the Photobucket upload size to 800 pixels to fill, but not distort Nomad)
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The links were all broken, so I just deleted the posts to reduce everyones frustration.
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Ken Cooke
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Basketball Hill (2004)
Neal and Marian
Brad and Neal
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in all of the pics you guys look like you're aired up. any issues with flats?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
in all of the pics you guys look like you're aired up. any issues with flats? |
There were no flats on this particular run. When running a BFG AT/KO, you don't want anything less than 18# in your tires. The tire sidewalls have
moderate to poor protection, so all contact must be made with the tread section of the tire.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
in all of the pics you guys look like you're aired up. any issues with flats? |
There were no flats on this particular run. When running a BFG AT/KO, you don't want anything less than 18# in your tires. The tire sidewalls have
moderate to poor protection, so all contact must be made with the tread section of the tire. |
-------unless you are in very bad sand with few rocks, then you can drop below 18 lbs, but I never go below about 15 unless actually stuck, then I
sometimes go as low as 8 to 10 to get out, quickly reinflating to 15 to 18 when able to move on in the sand, and switching to about 25 lbs in rocks.
My rig is a Ford F-250 4x4 with a 800 lb steel CALLEN camper and 285x16 BFG TA/KO tires. So far never had a flat with them, but Ken is right and the
sidewalls are vulnerble even tho 3 ply.
Barry
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My BFG friends who drive on Shell Island need to drop to 10 psi, as the sidewalls of the All Terrain TA are just too stiff to provide good floatation
at the pressure I can get by with in what I run (15-18 psi) for the same degree of floatation. I had the same issue when running Cooper Discoverer ATT
Mud Terrain tires (3 ply sidewall)... They would not float until I was at 10 psi.
Even on the firmer wet sand below the high tide line, you need to deflate... the beach is so well mixed with sea shells that there is no compaction as
you would have with pure sand when wet!
36 psi.
18 psi.
On the dry sand, at 18 psi... Hankook Dynapro ATM (2 ply sidewall) dropped in LESS than my own feet... and I weigh less. well a little less! LOL
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