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willardguy
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what a shame. okay here's probably a stupid question, is it possible that within all the rubble something could be salvaged? some of the photos show
some very large pieces. maybe?
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Mulegena
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so not to lose this treasure
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what a shame. okay here's probably a stupid question, is it possible that within all the rubble something could be salvaged? some of the photos show
some very large pieces. maybe? |
Good
question, Willard. I doubt any agency would take charge of the excavation but... if some enterprising person were to do so they might wish to donate
the shards to the Museum of Natural History in La Paz.
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Barry A.
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I think the problem will be that the debris (rocks and sand) in the flood waters will have simply erroded the ancient paintings off the rocks (like
they were sand-blasted), leaving nothing but natural stone on the face of the cliff------It would take a lot of work to even excavate the rocks and
sand down to even see if any 'paintings' survived.
Tropical Storm "Kathleen" in 1977 in the Imperial Valley of CA destroyed whole Native American village sites that were at least 800+ years
old--------simply washed them away.
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tehag
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Paintings
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Loretana
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That was such a beautiful spot.......I'm glad I enjoyed them while they were in existence. I always imagined a turtle shell, other folks saw different
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The pool was there at least half the year, in the fall following the rains. My dog would go crazy every time I turned onto the road to San Javier, he
knew he would be swimming in the cool fresh water. The "pinturas rupestres" will be missed.
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Skipjack Joe
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Given that they were 3 feet above the bed of that arroyo I don't think anything could have saved those paintings. They would have had to extract them
and move them to a safer location.
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That is a shame. About 20 years ago we were headed up that road and the wife had recalled seeing some paintings in '79 when she was down there,could
not recall exactly where. We had the idea we would be on the lookout. We saw some shade on the left, good place to have lunch, went for stroll up the
canyon to check out the water and voila, cave paintings. arroyos can be scary places con mucho agua!
Hope everyone down there is safe and road gets back together soon.
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David K
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Here is a comparison between my 2009 photo and Mike's 2013 photo, cropped to be close to same area:
2009:
2013:
The top of the painted cave is visible in Mike's new photo... so it is only a couple feet covered. There is hope!
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wessongroup
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Truly amazing what "water" can do ... good before and after DK
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Mariz
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I'm not so sure all is lost.
I would be surprised that something like this has never happened in the history of the paintings.
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