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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i have a second spare that rides inside for those trips "out there"!!! to keep your drivetrain running smoove you should ALWAYS run tires of the same
size on each axle. if you are in 4x4 it is even more critical.
the slight differences in diameters will bind your driveline and, ultimately, lead to failure...... YMMV! |
Thanks Woody. I concur. The 'out there" trips require 2 spares to keep the pucker factor down. |
if you don't have 4x4 then the above won't apply. it is the front driveline that binds while engaged. without a rear locker only one rear wheel drives
even in 4x4, or is that 3x3?
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A larger than stock tire may not fit in the spare tire location. I had to redo the carrier brackets to make mine fit. I always carry two spares. One
under the truck and one in the bed. The one in the bed is easier to get to if needed. Since your truck is a 2 wheel drive putting a smaller tire on
the front won't hurt. It will probably pull a little on pavement. If you have a locking rear I'd be careful, not so much in the dirt but the pavement
could cause damage. If you carry a matching size spare in the bed then there is no reason not to keep the smaller spare under the truck. IMO
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The rear locker in a TRD Off Road Toyota is selectable, not like a Detroit or other automatic locker. So don't lock the rear with a different diameter
rear tires.
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Well guys, thanks again.
Today I got my new BFG AT TA KO's.
Feels a whole lot safer driving down the road after the last set that had very little tread.
The guy said the new All Terrain TA KO's should be out in a month or 2. He also said Toyo has some new rugged beefy off road tire coming out in 1 to
2 months as well.
I ended up mounting the larger size on the spare.
Off to Baja dirt roads shortly. Bajaguy, I owe you a beer but I think I'll be driving thru Ensenada in the morning. To early to drink?
[Edited on 7-27-2014 by Ateo]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i have a second spare that rides inside for those trips "out there"!!! to keep your drivetrain running smoove you should ALWAYS run tires of the same
size on each axle. if you are in 4x4 it is even more critical.
the slight differences in diameters will bind your driveline and, ultimately, lead to failure...... YMMV! |
Nope BS, I drove home from Oregon 900 miles with a 265/70/17 on one side in the front, other side 315/7017 no problems in the front, but wouldn't do
it in the rear
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Never too early. Anytime after Sept 15th
| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
Well guys, thanks again.
Today I got my new BFG AT TA KO's.
Feels a whole lot safer driving down the road after the last set that had very little tread.
The guy said the new All Terrain TA KO's should be out in a month or 2. He also said Toyo has some new rugged beefy off road tire coming out in 1 to
2 months as well.
I ended up mounting the larger size on the spare.
Off to Baja dirt roads shortly. Bajaguy, I owe you a beer but I think I'll be driving thru Ensenada in the morning. To early to drink?
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That's great! new bfg's always feel good! We will be doing a short trip to mikes in 2 weeks if you want to break them in 
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i have a second spare that rides inside for those trips "out there"!!! to keep your drivetrain running smoove you should ALWAYS run tires of the same
size on each axle. if you are in 4x4 it is even more critical.
the slight differences in diameters will bind your driveline and, ultimately, lead to failure...... YMMV! |
Nope BS, I drove home from Oregon 900 miles with a 265/70/17 on one side in the front, other side 315/7017 no problems in the front, but wouldn't do
it in the rear |
FOCUS! read the entire thing.... "if you don't have 4x4 then the above won't apply. it is the front driveline that binds while engaged. without a rear
locker only one rear wheel drives even in 4x4, or is that 3x3?"
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i have a second spare that rides inside for those trips "out there"!!! to keep your drivetrain running smoove you should ALWAYS run tires of the same
size on each axle. if you are in 4x4 it is even more critical.
the slight differences in diameters will bind your driveline and, ultimately, lead to failure...... YMMV! |
Nope BS, I drove home from Oregon 900 miles with a 265/70/17 on one side in the front, other side 315/7017 no problems in the front, but wouldn't do
it in the rear |
FOCUS! read the entire thing.... "if you don't have 4x4 then the above won't apply. it is the front driveline that binds while engaged. without a rear
locker only one rear wheel drives even in 4x4, or is that 3x3?"
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Mine is real 4X4 Dodge 3500 with a 4000 lb camper on it, with a front axel, you don't realize every time you turn, one front tire travels farther than
the other, so in front ok in rear no, read my post 900 miles no problem, I could have traveled the length of Baja I wasn't in 4 wheel drive never only
needed it one time in 60 years of visiting Baja, before I put the smaller tire on the front I drove over 60 miles with it on the rear still no
problems, the width of Baja.
[Edited on 7-30-2014 by 805gregg]
[Edited on 7-30-2014 by 805gregg]
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Tioloco
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60 years.....only needed 4x4 in baja once???
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There is so much more Baja to see than on paved or graded dirt roads!
Sure, most roads are passable in 2WD, but the spinning of the rear tire when traction is lost really damages the road. Be kind to the dirt (and your
truck), and use 4WD off pavement!
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If anyone REALLY cared about damage to the environment, they wouldn't drive in the desert at all or on the beach for that matter ....since they are
both so very fragile...
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I guess if any of us cared about the environment, we would go back to hunting and gathering and not have modern society...?
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I guess if any of us cared about the environment, we wouldn't have Baja off-road races..........? 
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I could live without the race scene..... I don't know that the businesses would like it much. Exploring remote baja and leaving it as you found it is
a reasonable way to enjoy the area. If looking for crowds is your goal, it isn't really necessary to cross the border. Safest most relaxing times ever
are easily found off the beaten path.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by norte
If anyone REALLY cared about damage to the environment, they wouldn't drive in the desert at all or on the beach for that matter ....since they are
both so very fragile... |
Sure, if you don't then why should anyone else, right?
People are part of this planet too, not an invader species. The desert is perhaps the hardiest place on earth (not fragile) and the beach renews
itself with every high tide and wind storm.
Foot prints in the sand go deeper than my tires, so you must advocate no people should walk on beaches either?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tioloco
60 years.....only needed 4x4 in baja once??? |
That's right, in the 60's a 56 Buick could go anywhere, and they did that's why I used it as an example. 4x4 , just gets you stuck worse, I use the
old Baja way, stop get out and walk it first, then you don't come across a hazard you can't get out of. Works every time unless you are lazy.
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Well put Davit! Seems like If you run in 4-wheel on dirt roads, It seems to smooth it out a bit!
some.
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Jon, did you get the new or old pattern ? I think we are gonna stick with the KM2's but I'd love to hear a report on the new design performance 
Same size tires are always the best plan period
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Exploring baja is great via highway and dirt roads in 2wd. Even greater in 4x4 in the washes and on the beaches. Either is better than not going at
all.
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