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BajaB
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Dengue fever updates
http://octavodia.mx/categoria/19/salud
Dengue outbreak is getting worse.
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monoloco
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Many people here have had it, if they are reporting 500 new cases, you can bet it's at least 10 times that many because most who come down with it
don't bother to go to a doctor. I know at least a dozen who have had it this summer.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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mtgoat666
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Dengue / yellow fever mosquito reaches San Diego!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
County environmental health officials are asking the public for help after the discovery of a new invasive mosquito in San Diego County that feeds in
daylight hours and can transmit several diseases.
“We’re urging people to look for, and to eliminate or report any standing water that could be breeding grounds for mosquitoes, outside their homes,
but also inside their homes because these small mosquitoes like to breed inside too,” said Elizabeth Pozzebon, director of the San Diego County
Department of Environmental Health.
County officials said military entomologists at Naval Base San Diego had discovered four Aedes aegypti mosquitoes, otherwise known as “yellow fever
mosquitoes,” in the last couple of weeks in offices at the base, situated on San Diego Bay.
Navy and County vector control teams are working together to put up traps on and around the base to determine if there are more of these mosquitoes.
Los Angeles County vector control officials also announced recently that they have found yellow fever mosquitoes in the cities of Commerce and Pico
Rivera.
The Aedes aegypti mosquito is small and black with white stripes. It differs from native California mosquitoes in that it is known as an aggressive
pest that likes to feed mainly during the day, rather than mostly at dusk and dawn. It also likes to live in urban areas and breed in containers,
inside and outside of people’s homes — in almost anything that can contain water — from flowerpots, saucers and cups, to spare tires, rain gutters,
untreated swimming pools and drainage ditches. Because it likes urban areas and will breed indoors, people might want to report occurrences where
mosquitoes are biting indoors during daylight hours to County vector control.
The yellow fever mosquito has commonly been found on the East Coast. However, it started showing up in a few California counties in 2013. Officials
want to keep it out of the state because it can spread dangerous diseases, including yellow fever, chikungunya and dengue fever.
Those diseases are very rare here.
Yellow fever, once known as “yellow jack” and “yellow plague,” is largely contained to tropical areas of Africa and Latin American, and there hasn't
been an outbreak in the United States in more than 100 years. In rare cases it has affected U.S. travelers who have visited tropical countries.
Chikungunya is a viral disease that has historically been kept to Africa, Asia, Europe, and the Indian and Pacific Oceans. However, it has been
spreading in recent years. This year, two travelers brought it home to San Diego County and more than 100 cases — including the first two locally
acquired cases in U.S. history — have been reported in Florida, according to the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
Chikungunya is spread by infected mosquitoes and cannot be transmitted person-to-person. Symptoms include fever and severe joint pain, often in the
hands and feet, and can include headache, muscle pain, joint swelling and rash. The disease is rarely fatal, but there is no vaccine or medication for
it.
Dengue fever is still rare, but has been seen here on a yearly basis. San Diego County Department of Health and Human Services statistics report that
a dozen people in San Diego County got sick from dengue fever in both 2012 and 2013, after contracting the disease while visiting other countries.
There has been one confirmed case here in 2014, which was also contracted outside the county.
Dengue disease, and the more severe dengue hemorragic fever, is caused by any of four related viruses. Dengue hemorrhagic fever can be fatal and there
is no vaccine or cure. The CDC reports that the Yellow Fever mosquito is the main carrier of dengue fever in the Western Hemisphere. Like chikungunya,
dengue cannot be spread from person to person. Symptoms include sudden onset of fever, severe headache, severe pain behind the eyes, joint pain,
muscle and bone pain, rash and mild bleeding.
County officials said people should remember to follow the general advice they have urged people to follow to battle another mosquito-borne disease,
West Nile virus: “Prevent, Protect, Report.”
[Edited on 10-28-2014 by mtgoat666]
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AKgringo
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I have been staying at the Maranatha Camp in La Paz for the last six days, and the area must have been sprayed, because I have not needed to use
repellent so far this trip. I have had problems with no-seeums here before, but right now, no bites, no deet!
Having said that, my dental work is on hold while the specialist who did my implant recovers from denge fever.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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MitchMan
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AKgringo, I'm in Chametla and I haven't had to use any mosquito repellent either.
But, since there was a lot of yard growth of weeds, there have been a ton of spiders, grasshoppers and crickets.
Found a small yellow live scorpion in front of my couch on the floor when I first got here (that's where I usually sit to have dinner and watch
movies.
Less afraid of things these days; just have to live with them I guess. I keep the place pretty secure and closed up, but a couple of times a year a
scorpion makes his way in. Can't get rid of the newts either. There is always at least one somewhere in the house.
Pretty sure that I had dengue fever about 5 years ago just after getting the house. It was supposed to be a 2 week visit, but I got this fever and
headache that wouldn't go away, kept getting worse. The lethargy was unbelievable; never experienced that before. All I could do was stay in bed for
3 days and sleep. Had to cancel departing flight and reschedule. I just thought that I had a bad fever, but now that I have read up a bit on dengue,
I am pretty sure that is what it was; didn't know it at the time though. It hit like a ton of bricks, then it went away. I remember that I had a
bunch of mosquito bites on my arms and legs...not deet on hand. When I first got here, it was much wetter than the last 3 years have been.
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Bob53
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Dengue vaccine...
http://www.banderasnews.com/1411/hb-mexicotobefirstfordengue...
[Edited on 11-11-2014 by Bob53]
The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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pauldavidmena
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I've heard that George Bergin (a.k.a. Osprey) has come down with a nasty case. Here's hoping he's posting some fishing photos soon.
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BajaB
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For current information in Spanish check:
http://octavodia.mx/articulo/56330/reportan-171-nuevos-casos...
This seems to be one of the worst outbreaks ever with new rounds of fumigation planned. Use wisdom in going to Baja Sur until it really is cooler.
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henhenas and such
About 20 years ago I did the big "D" (divorce) and decided to drive a 23 C class towing a small boat (Livingston) to costa rico and become a full time
fishing/dive/surf guia...I never got any shots but drank a hell of flora de cana and rubed it on all exposed boady parts..worked well..never got
bitten..BUT I did catch a river born jungle rot that ate me alive !! scary crap down there...VIVO BAJA !!...K&T
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bajabuddha
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n I had 2 go 2 dictionary.com 4 that one!!! (n, WTF is a 'henhena? ...n' such?) 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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bajaspuds
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... jejenes? perhaps ... aka: no see 'ums
pesky, for sure ... and sometimes they can transmit parasites and/or disease ... but not the dengue
[Edited on 11-16-2014 by bajaspuds]
[Edited on 11-16-2014 by bajaspuds]
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bajabuddha
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Ahhh, aka: bobo's (although, from former threads, I think there's a difference, maybe...). And, as stated before, no-see-ums are easily defeated by
pure Mexicano Vanilla, preferably the clear if you can find it. Does NOT work for skeeters and Dengue, but for the Li'l buggers it is a miracle cure.
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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motoged
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
....no-see-ums are easily defeated by pure Mexicano Vanilla, preferably the clear if you can find it. ... |
BB,
And do the chicks dig it????
Don't believe everything you think....
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Just back from a month in Cabo Pulmo (and getting ready to fly back down; flew home briefly to take care of some business). During the first week of
November, there were two residents of Cabo Pulmo down with Dengue fever, out of a total of about 200 residents. The mosquitoes were finally started to
slack off a little bit, then hurricane Vance dumped about 2 inches of rain in one day, so the skeeters have probably picked back up.
Down in Pulmo, they say to be careful not to take any blood-thinning medications such as aspirin when you have dengue, because that increases the risk
of it turning hemorrhagic. I haven't done any research myself, but that's the word from all the folks who have lived there for a while (Mexican and
gringo). There is only one med that they say is safe to take to treat the pain and fever that's available in Mexico...whose name escapes me at the
moment. Anyone?
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bajabuddha
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabuddha
....no-see-ums are easily defeated by pure Mexicano Vanilla, preferably the clear if you can find it. ... |
BB,
And do the chicks dig it???? |
Ged, I dig it on the chicks too !!! Beats kissing deet....... 
I don't have a BUCKET LIST, but I do have a F***- IT LIST a mile long!
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chuckie
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Sure helped my ex wife....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CatCrazyJulie
...be careful not to take any blood-thinning medications such as aspirin when you have dengue, because that increases the risk of it turning
hemorrhagic...There is only one med that... is safe to take to treat the pain and fever that's available in Mexico...whose name escapes me at the
moment. Anyone? |
If you think you have Dengue Fever take Paracetamol for the headaches & muscle and
joint pain. Tylenol or the generic Acetaminophen are the exact same medicine but are sold in Mexico over-the-counter as Paracetamol.
Why is this over the counter medicine the drug-of-choice in treating Dengue? It reduces fever and relieves pain. The beauty part is how this wonderful
medicine does what it does: it works on the hypothalamus of the brain (if ya' got one) and actually resets the body temperature lower and raises one's
pain threshold, so ya' just feel better sooner. Good stuff, acetaminophen.
Don't take aspirin whatever you do. It's an anti-coagulant, a blood thinner. This won't cause the virus to "turn hemorragic" but it's impossible to
know if you've been bitten by a mosquito that carries that particular strain of virus. Other than if you're actively bleeding, blood work to check
your platelets and pro-thombin time would be the only definitive diagnosis of hemorrhagic dengue fever. Just stay away from any meds that would make
a bad situation worse, and in the case of Hemmorhagic Dengue, that'd be aspirin and other anti-coagulants.
Yes, there have been some cases of hemorrhagic dengue in Baja Sur. Those patients are sent to La Paz Salvatierra Hospital for treatment.
If you're on blood-thinners and begin to feel bad and think you have dengue, consult with a doctor immediately.
The basic Dengue Treatment:
Stay out of the sun and don't exert yourself.
Do rest... a whole lot of rest.
Do drink plenty of water to stay hydrated.
Do drink lots and lots of gatorade-type products that are called "suero" down here.
Lay off the booze - even Pacificos will dehydrate ya'. Sorry.
If you vomit, take something for that so you don't get dehydrated - a real issue with many I've noticed.
If you get too sick, go to any clinic and they'll probably give you iv fluids.
It's been reported that when victims of dengue develop an bumpy rash, it's a sign they're going to get better.
Stay away from mosquitos. Having had Dengue doesn't give you immunity from getting it again. One's ability to deal with the dengue virus has something
to do with one's general state of health and well-being, I've noticed. Some folks suffer with it a long time. Others throw it off within 3-4 days.
Remember, you can get it again-- even while you have it!
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
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alacran
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I had a start of dengue, here in Mulege, I was told that the tea of a plant called "Guacura" will help, I had 3 cups of the tea for 3 days, and it
worked.Several other people that I know it also worked for them.
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Mulegena
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Guacura
Most excellent news, Alacran.
Glad you're feeling better.
Can you tell us about the plant and where you got it?
How it's prepared - used, root or leaf?
"Raise your words, not your voice. It's rain that grows flowers, not thunder." ~Rumi
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Guacura sounds good - however, dengue only lasts 2 or 3 days anyway.
I came down with it yesterday (for the 3rd time)
it's painful chit
Harald Pietschmann
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