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LancairDriver
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Quote: Originally posted by durrelllrobert  | | Quote: Originally posted by gnukid |
The planes you see flying overhead spitting out white lines that fade into a haze, throughout remote baja, are spraying aerosol metals particulate
aluminum, barium etc. that harm the land and sea and reduce our ability to produce food and of course alter the weather and harm our bodies. It is
highly damaging to the ecosystem and to ourselves.
If people were serious they would be actively working to inform the group about the damage caused by the military weaponization of weather using
chemicals that harm people globally. |
Where is your link pointing to the facts you state with regard to the contrails from commercial aircraft flying over Baja (or anywhere else)?
"Jets leave white trails, or contrails, in their wakes for the same reason you can sometimes see your breath. The hot, humid exhaust from jet engines
mixes with the atmosphere, which at high altitude is of much lower vapor pressure and temperature than the exhaust gas. The water vapor contained in
the jet exhaust condenses and may freeze, and this mixing process forms a cloud very similar to the one your hot breath makes on a cold day.
Jet engine exhaust contains carbon dioxide, oxides of sulfur and nitrogen, unburned fuel, soot and metal particles, as well as water vapor. The soot
provides condensation sites for the water vapor. Any particles present in the air provide additional sites.
Depending on a plane¿s altitude, and the temperature and humidity of the atmosphere, contrails may vary in their thickness, extent and duration. The
nature and persistence of jet contrails can be used to predict the weather. A thin, short-lived contrail indicates low-humidity air at high altitude,
a sign of fair weather, whereas a thick, long-lasting contrail reflects humid air at high altitudes and can be an early indicator of a storm.
The mixing gases contained in the contrail rotate with respect to the ambient air. These regions of rotating flow are called vortices. (Any sharp
surface, such as the tip of a wing, can cause vortical flow in its wake if it is sufficiently large or the flow is sufficiently fast.) On occasion,
these trailing vortices may interact with one another."
www.scientificamerican.com › More Science › Ask the Experts
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Here is a screenshot of air traffic around So. Cal at around 4pm today. Whatever they are putting out there is a lot of it.
[Edited on 9-7-2015 by BajaNomad]
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SFandH
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie |
This Sunday a bunch of farmers and ranchers will be meeting at Beechers Island, Colorado to plan the next phase of the water conservation watershed
restoration program in the Republican River basin. The "Three Rivers Alliance" promotes good stewardship of water land and wildlife. No Scientific
articles quoted, no conspiracies just a bunch of folks organizing work parties, donating time and tractors, working with conservationists to help the
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An island in Colorado? I had to look it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beecher_Island
Have fun and get to work early Monday! 
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David K
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Those planes are over 5 miles long each, if shown correctly to scale on that map! Same with the wing span!! Of course if shown at true size scale each
plane would be so tiny, you couldn't see it on that map.
The earth is a big big place, and we are so tiny upon it.
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chuckie
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Monday I go back in the hospital...more cardiac stuff....couple days off...
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elgatoloco
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Get well soon!  
MAGA
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by chuckie | | While many of us are struggling trying to deal with this problem, we see on Colorados front range, more and more subdivisions with look at me homes
and golf courses sucking up water....and more water...and more water..... |
Probably stay that way for a very long time. Colorado allocates to upper basin folks (NM, UT, WY and AZ). No water restrictions here. No
apologies either.
John Lochhead, CEO, Denver Water: “We serve a quarter of the state’s population and well over a quarter of the state’s economic activity, yet we use
less than two per cent of the state’s water. Agriculture accounts for roughly eighty per cent of all Colorado River water consumption.''
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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bajacamper
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Get in, get out, get well. Best wishes.
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We can do without a lot of things, however agriculture is not one of them. I am not familiar with the crops grown in Colorado but in California the
drought has affected all industries, Ag included. Long before the current water shortage the Ag industry has been using only the water needed to grow
the crops that a lot of folks think originate at Safeway.
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gnukid
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Look up. Here are links to some documents and transcripts about geo-engineering, many of which are official government docs.
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/documents-2/
[Edited on 8-29-2015 by gnukid]
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mtgoat666
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It says a lot about the USA's poor education system that we have so many people that believe global warming is a hoax or scam, and believe that jets
are spraying chem trails as part of some sinister plot to geo-engineer the world.
[Edited on 8-29-2015 by mtgoat666]
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There are some on this forum that do not believe in education goat. Don't worry, when they breed they provide laborers, dancers and someone to do
the dishes. The rest of us can worry about science, advancement, and general well being of the population.
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chuckie
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I just knew the water crisis was genetic....When will you all start the great purge?
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rts551
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No need for a purge, as stated we need them.
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chuckie
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I thought that was why we had all the illegals?
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bajacamper
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Highly unlikely.
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gnukid
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Recently published articles note the lack of credibility in the catastrophic NASA sea level prediction report and about the current general problem
with scientific method and peer review papers. The NASA prediction requires an exponential massive increase in sea level rise in the next 85 years far
beyond current trend of 3mm per year. Like so many doomsday predictions, it is pure science fiction.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/08/28/on-nasas-recent-sea-le...
[Edited on 8-29-2015 by gnukid]
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Lee
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K |
That is the point of my posts, to counter those who would take away your freedoms over a hoax that serves only to gain them power and line their
pockets. Resist Big Government!
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If enough people believe the things written here, there is no hope for the future, and the kids in it.
Personally, I want to believe that the world is in a better place and has a brighter future. But I look around and think that that is not
happening and things are going to get a whole lot worse before they get better.
When David writes ''Resist Big Government,'' I think he's writing ''Vote Republican!''
Isn't that correct David? Or am I wrong?
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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DavidT
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It was hairdressers and telephone sanitizers.
Golgan
Golgafrincham was a planet, once home to the Great Circling Poets of Arium. The descendants of these poets made up tales of impending doom about the
planet. The tales varied; some said it was going to crash into the sun, or the moon was going to crash into the planet. Others said the planet was to
be invaded by twelve-foot piranha bees and still others said it was in danger of being eaten by an enormous mutant star-goat.
These tales of impending doom allowed the Golgafrinchans to rid themselves of an entire useless third of their population. The story was that they
would build three Ark ships. Into the A ship would go all the leaders, scientists and other high achievers. The C ship would contain all the people
who made things and did things, and the B ark would hold everyone else, such as hairdressers and telephone sanitizers. They sent the B ship off first,
but of course the other two-thirds of the population stayed on the planet and lived full, rich and happy lives until they were all wiped out by a
virulent disease contracted from a dirty telephone.
http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Golgafrincham
David
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
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gnukid
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The 97% consensus paper on CO2 causing global warming by Cook et al. has demonstrably fallacious logic, "A trend in composition is mistaken for a
trend in endorsement. Reported results are inconsistent and biased." Recent articles as well as published papers discuss the survey method and data
set.
http://judithcurry.com/2015/08/27/the-conceits-of-consensus/
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chuckie
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Now we're getting somewhere......at last!
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