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wow.gif posted on 12-5-2016 at 03:56 PM
Road to Tembabichi...


Hi BajaNomads,

We just got back from a great week long trip to Posada Concepcion in Mulegé, we enjoyed our stay and just couldn't make our minds to start driving back home.

Due to the Baja 1000 we drove Fwy 8 to Calexico then Mex 5 (graphic report to follow) to Mex 1 down to Bahía Concepción, came back north on Mex 5 to Tj and crossed at SY...

Now we're planning our next year trip, hopefully to Tembabichi, BCS... during spring break, this year spring break for our kids ends one week before "semana santa" begins for schools in México, so that's encouraging.

Has anyone driven the route to Tembabichi recently?

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(use this link for a "live" map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xreIeE-q_CShyLizZgi9Mq3i9X...)

Is this route doable on a Tacoma long bed, 2wd, 4dr?

I've seen a couple of posts regarding this route on BN but are not recent.

We have a boat but that would be OUT of the question because of the road.

I'm considering the possibility of installing a front hitch (http://www.autoanything.com/towing/curt-front-mount-trailer-... or https://www.realtruck.com/curt-front-mount-receiver-hitch/?u...) for a winch and also getting a "sand anchor" (http://www.discountramps.com/ground-anchor/p/GA-10000-V2/) to help our drive to the coast from Cd. Constitución... just in case...???

If the drive is not doable to Tembabichi for our 2wd then we're considering Puerto Agua Verde instead and then we could probably bring our boat along with us... if doable... at all.

Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Muchas gracias compañeros Nómadas...!!!

[Edited on 12-6-2016 by carlosg]




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[*] posted on 12-5-2016 at 05:23 PM


The Baja Almanac and other maps and books spell it "Timbabichi" and with the correct spelling you can search Nomad and find the trip reports from TMW, 4x4abc, The squarecircle, Baja Tripper, Fernweh and more... here is a sample:

Here's one from 2013: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=66863

More photos and trip report from 2012: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=60000

On the road to Timbabichi, 2012: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=59908

Huge report about a 2005 trip: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=57503





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[*] posted on 12-5-2016 at 05:53 PM


Thanks David for the links, I think I've gone thru most of them but any info is good info...:yes:

Regarding the spelling, you'll notice that on English documents it's spelled with and "i" (probably because of the translated sound of "e"...???... that's my theory anyway...) BUT if you look it up on Mexican documents (legal, college papers or thesis, even -local- facebook: https://www.google.com/search?q=camino+a+tembabichi&ie=u...) you'll see that it's spelled with an "e"... whether it's with an "i" or "e" I'm sure it's a beautiful place... one that must be explored before all the "big bucks" come along and start developing it and sooner than later there will be a starbucks somewhere around the area...:no:




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[*] posted on 12-5-2016 at 07:04 PM


No problem Carlos... I just wanted you to find the most info and spelling it with an i seems to work best. However, I do see links to Tembabichi on Google, too!

This could be like the Rancho Santa Ynez thing... The owner spelled it Ynez, but the maps spell it Ines, then gringos spell it all sorts of ways: Ynes, Inez, Innez, etc.

The spelling Timbabichi (with an i) is on Mexico's government topo maps (of course I can show you many places where even they are wrong, lol!).

The gringo spellings have ranged from Tambobiche (Ray Cannon, Sea of Cortez, 1966) to Tambibiche (Leland Lewis, Baja Sea Guide, 1971 and Arnold Senterfitt, Airports of Baja, 1987) to Timbabiche (Neil Kelly, The Baja Catch, 1988).

As long as you can find what you need, then it is all good!

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[*] posted on 12-5-2016 at 07:19 PM


David, I just read TMW's post from 2013... I can only say...WOW...!!! It may change a couple of our travel plans, specially because he mentions most of that route could be done on a 2wd with clearance and also shows the road to Tembabichi as a roughed one but not impassable on a 2wd... I'll keep on reading and being surprised... my family sure would enjoy visiting the beautiful Baja outback...

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[*] posted on 12-5-2016 at 07:45 PM


Here are the two trip reports I did. It is a really cool and remote place. If you go take a run up the coast there are a couple of beautiful beaches maybe more. Karl (Nomad Fernweh) took us there. Going down and up the mountain is a kick in the pants, some may want to close their eyes, just not the driver.

2012 Trip with more info on the Hacienda
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[*] posted on 12-5-2016 at 07:57 PM


Thanks TMW,

I just finished reading both of your reports and noticed that the route that I sketched over Google maps is the same as you have. I feel safer driving to Tembabichi now that I've seen the road even though is back in 2013, but I think that because we're traveling 03/17 thru 04/02/2017 conditions that may have occurred during this past rainy season will be fixed by then; if we don't go up to La Purísima we certainly will be going to Tembabichi-Ensenada Puerto Gato and Agua Verde... Maybe someone else may want to come along, we are a family of four: wife and I with two boys: 9 and 15... let's see what cooks up...

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[*] posted on 12-5-2016 at 09:18 PM


On the first trip we camped at Agua Verde and took the road from the arroyo up the mountain that goes to Constitucion. That road has been washed out and not passable in a 4 wheel vehicle. It is even difficult on a motorcycle as Nomad dtbushpilot can tell you. I was back looking at it about a year ago and it was still no good.

The road from Consitucion to Timbabichi is a good graded road until a couple of miles before going down then it gets a little rough. The road down was in pretty good shape I assume from the locals or government grading it. The road along the beach is a 4x4 in places due to the sand.

Several ranches and farms along the way with very friendly people. Stop and chat with them as well as those in Timbabichi.

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[*] posted on 12-6-2016 at 11:59 AM


Don't know if trailering anything into Agua Verde is wise. When you get to the coast, there are some sharp curves and it's one lane with a few pullouts along the decline. You may want to get more info before you go. Have you read "King of the Moon?"
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[*] posted on 12-6-2016 at 12:17 PM


Quote: Originally posted by carlosg  
(use this link for a "live" map: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1xreIeE-q_CShyLizZgi9Mq3i9X...)


WOW - refreshing to see a non-paper map on BN!




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[*] posted on 12-6-2016 at 12:29 PM


I was just looking at some pics of the red sandstone rocks of Los Gatos (OR Puerto Gato) this morning.... just a little north of Tembabichi.

Strange to see this thread posted at the same time.

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[*] posted on 12-6-2016 at 05:37 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
I was just looking at some pics of the red sandstone rocks of Los Gatos (OR Puerto Gato) this morning.... just a little north of Tembabichi.

Strange to see this thread posted at the same time.

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I just returned from Timbabiche (or whatever) over the holidays. I think you can make it now, but you never know what each storm season will bring. Incredibly beautiful area with lots of exploring/boondocking opportunities.

It's an exciting and fun drive. Don't discount the hilly areas below the pass for great camping and exploring. We also visited Los Burros, which was somewhat disappointing. Just a fish camp occupying the 50-yards of beach, surrounded by goat ranches. An absolutely beautiful and exciting drive in, but you'll never be alone at the beach. Too bad . . . it's a stunningly beautiful bay. It also provides access to the hike to the ruin at Los Dolores.

Both of these roads are exceptionally steep with loose rocks. Considerable lengths have been cemented-over like a narrow driveway. One of these sections going in to Timbabiche has been undercut by water flow and looks a bit sketchy . . . but we made it!

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[*] posted on 1-11-2017 at 08:25 PM


Also, the road from Agua Verde to Cd Constitution has just been freshly dozed. Still rough, but a cinch for high-clearance vehicles . . . and the road through Arroyo San Jose and San Jose de la Noria is one of the most beautiful and dramatic driveable canyons in Baja.

We tried it in 2010, and got sick of doing half an hour of roadwork every few hundred yards and turned around. But it's GREAT now!
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[*] posted on 1-11-2017 at 08:31 PM


Beautiful pictures. The third one up has the wow factor for sure.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2017 at 08:41 PM


Thanks salttram about Agua Verde that's a good run.
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[*] posted on 1-11-2017 at 10:29 PM


Thanks . . . sometimes, it's hard NOT to take great pictures around there!
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[*] posted on 1-12-2017 at 01:46 PM


WOW....incredible, beautiful views!!!!

Thanks salttram for posting your report on your drive to-from Tembabichi, that third picture TMW referenced where was it taken at: road to Tembabichi? Where you driving a 4wd? We'll be driving a long bed, 2wd, 4dr Tacoma, do you have any suggestions or recommendations for us? We plan to start our trip down there at the end of the third week of March hopefully these rains won't do much harm to the road; was it raining during your trip? Did you do any fishing or clamming, any shrimp or scallops available from the local fishermen? Any supplies in Tembabichi? Do you have any pics of the beach around Tembabichi? I would like to set up camp for at least 7-10 (?) days at one spot (Tembabichi, Los Gatos or...?) and explore the area from there, do you have any suggestions? If possible PLEASE post a trip report of your trip, it obviously was a great one....!!!! And very informative post.

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This are the finest pictures of Puerto Gato I have ever seen.

The low bluff along the South side of the bay is full of ordinary looking rocks that look a bit like coconuts after a bad night. Crack one open and Voila! They are geodes and are full of crystals.

I got nipped on the calf by a fiddler crab one night there at my 50th. birthday party back an embarrassing number of years ago. Like 1992 I think.
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