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[*] posted on 2-19-2020 at 10:52 PM


Nice report Mulege C. Gracias.



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[*] posted on 2-29-2020 at 08:10 PM


So is the most traveled road the west most road via El Datil? Planning on driving it in a few weeks.

Quote: Originally posted by David K  




Here's my GPS track with mileages from San Juanico to El Datil:


El Datil north to the junction with the high road:


At Laguna San Ignacio:


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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 09:40 AM


Stewwalker, when I did the trip (detailed on my maps above) it was August 2017. The El Datil/ Low or Salinas Road was the preferred route because the High Road had numerous washouts reported.

The year after my trip, Desert Bull reported that the High Road was repaired and regraded, offering super-fast speeds.

Now, I hear the high road is not so fast, once again... so it is 50/50 on which to use. The High Road is a tiny bit shorter but the Low Road is smoother... You just need to stay to the desert side of the salt flats and don't short cut across (mud danger) if you go that way.

There is sometimes a third route mentioned, but I can't help you with where it is in relation to the the two I have shown.




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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 10:07 AM


So for us map challenged people, how many miles/KM is it from the lagoon to San Juanico? I only have around a 100 miles range in my RZR and could always bring spare gas. From S.J. all the way to the town of San Ignacio, is there anyone regularly selling gas and to really be fussy, hi octane? Like I said, I can always bring spare gas but it's a matter of how much to bring.

Anyone have mileage from the gas station at Highway #1 to S.J.? By memory, they sell at least regular octane in S.J., correct?





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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 10:29 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Howard  
So for us map challenged people, how many miles/KM is it from the lagoon to San Juanico? I only have around a 100 miles range in my RZR and could always bring spare gas. From S.J. all the way to the town of San Ignacio, is there anyone regularly selling gas and to really be fussy, hi octane? Like I said, I can always bring spare gas but it's a matter of how much to bring.

Anyone have mileage from the gas station at Highway #1 to S.J.? By memory, they sell at least regular octane in S.J., correct?


The maps go with my road logs... So here are the road log pages for San Ignacio to San Juanico. In a nutshell: San Ignacio to the lagoon is 36 miles and the Lagoon to San Juanico is 70 miles. Gas for sale was signed at El Datil in 2017.









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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 10:46 AM


Thank you for the mileage.




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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 01:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Stewwalker  
So is the most traveled road the west most road via El Datil? Planning on driving it in a few weeks.


What are you driving? Some vehicles do better than others on the flats.




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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 01:46 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Howard  
So for us map challenged people, how many miles/KM is it from the lagoon to San Juanico? I only have around a 100 miles range in my RZR and could always bring spare gas. From S.J. all the way to the town of San Ignacio, is there anyone regularly selling gas and to really be fussy, hi octane? Like I said, I can always bring spare gas but it's a matter of how much to bring.

Anyone have mileage from the gas station at Highway #1 to S.J.? By memory, they sell at least regular octane in S.J., correct?



When I was there (San Juanico) in nov. my brother bought gas there. It was regular/verde but we never asked for hi/rojo. I bought diesel there also.

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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 02:25 PM


According to SCORE race notes it is approx. 105 miles from the PEMEX station on Hwy 1 in San Ignacio to where the road curves left at San Juanico.

Note this is going thru El Datil or using the salt flat road.

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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 02:45 PM


I'm going to trace a route of the Low Road on GE in a bit. Will posted it later.





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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 06:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by Stewwalker  
So is the most traveled road the west most road via El Datil? Planning on driving it in a few weeks.


What are you driving? Some vehicles do better than others on the flats.


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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 08:35 PM


Here is a track of the Low Road. I mapped it trying to stay East as much as possible, where it looked like dryer areas.

Let me know if any errors. I've been up to Dunes above Scorpion Bay before, so up to there should be good.

Attachment: Scorpion Bay to San Ignacio.kmz (7kB)
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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 09:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Here is a track of the Low Road. I mapped it trying to stay West as much as possible where it looked like dryer areas.

Let me know if any errors. I've been up to Dunes above Scorpion Bay before, so up to there should be good.



[Edited on 3-2-2020 by JZ]


Classic baja nomad bs. You haven’t been there, but you post a route map based on satellite photo you found on the internet, and you chose the “dry-looking” roads :lol:

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[Edited on 3-2-2020 by mtgoat666]

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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 09:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666  


Classic baja nomad bs. You haven’t been there, but you post a route map based on satellite photo you found on the internet, and you chose the “dry-looking” roads :lol:

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Maybe you missed the KMZ? It's mapped from GE by following the road tracks, not an internet photo you retard. Then did a screen shot. Already had the first 30 miles from a previous trip.

I map out the tracks on GE of every trail we are going to hit before we take a trip. Export them to Back Country Navigator with offline HD satellite imagery. It's like watching your truck drive live on GE.

Gonna do this route next month.



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[*] posted on 3-1-2020 at 10:27 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
I map out the tracks on GE of every trail we are going to hit before we take a trip. Export them to Back Country Navigator with offline HD satellite imagery. It's like watching your truck drive live on GE.


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[*] posted on 3-2-2020 at 04:51 PM


I would not recommend anyone doing that low road without a track or a plotted route before you head out. Lots of turns and junctions.

Last year we missed a turn and ended up on the “middle road” which is sugar sand. I was surfing the F350 and was very lucky to not get stuck or meet an on coming vehicle.

I use a navionics app to plot routes. I use the app for sailing my boat in BC off Vancouver Island but it works well in Baja for off-road stuff. When in doubt, go walk any shortcut across the mud or just play it safe and meander along the tidal edge.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
I would not recommend anyone doing that low road without a track or a plotted route before you head out. Lots of turns and junctions.

Last year we missed a turn and ended up on the “middle road” which is sugar sand. I was surfing the F350 and was very lucky to not get stuck or meet an on coming vehicle.

I use a navionics app to plot routes. I use the app for sailing my boat in BC off Vancouver Island but it works well in Baja for off-road stuff. When in doubt, go walk any shortcut across the mud or just play it safe and meander along the tidal edge.


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[*] posted on 3-2-2020 at 09:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by geoffff  


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[*] posted on 3-3-2020 at 08:26 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Mulege Canuck  
I would not recommend anyone doing that low road without a track or a plotted route before you head out. Lots of turns and junctions.

Last year we missed a turn and ended up on the “middle road” which is sugar sand. I was surfing the F350 and was very lucky to not get stuck or meet an on coming vehicle.

I use a navionics app to plot routes. I use the app for sailing my boat in BC off Vancouver Island but it works well in Baja for off-road stuff. When in doubt, go walk any shortcut across the mud or just play it safe and meander along the tidal edge.


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[*] posted on 3-3-2020 at 09:35 AM


The path of least resistance is still the High Road via San Jose de Gracia road ... 2WD in my 20 year old Toyota Tundra easy peasy.

As Mulege Canuck says you better have the latest file from someone trust worthy ... I've towed many out of the tidal flat mud and the deep sand when they made the wrong turn ...

Every super moon changes the low tidal flats route ... and that was 2 weeks ago, pay attention, school is in session.




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