BajaNomad
Not logged in [Login - Register]

Go To Bottom
Printable Version  
 Pages:  1    3
Author: Subject: Volaris - TJ to Loreto question
JZ
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 3548
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 01:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
You're going to surf Scorpion Bay? There's a hotel there that might have long boards to lend. Check it out.


Scorpion Bay hotel is not cheap. It's pretty nice, but it will cost you $150 a night.




See Baja California in 4K: https://youtu.be/4VNTIhRa6q0

Ever wanted to camp on a deserted island in the Sea of Cortez? https://youtu.be/g3ThXCm3XSA

Come along for a ride of the famous Seven Sisters https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs



View user's profile
joerover
Banned





Posts: 677
Registered: 2-3-2011
Location: earth
Member Is Offline

Mood: sleepy

[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 05:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by geronimo21  


How far apart are the San Ysidro and Otay crossings and how much can one save (time/money) by taking a taxi from Ysidro?


[Edited on 1-7-2019 by geronimo21]


The bridge is 15 usd,
the bus is 15 mxn pesos, San Ysidro to airport,
The taxi is 15 usd, I asked, they answered $20, ok $10, why do they call hem axi bandidos?
Otey is walking distance, less than 2 miles?
11 pesos for a busSan Ysidro to Tj Airport, micro bandido is 15 pesos.




the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
View user's profile
joerover
Banned





Posts: 677
Registered: 2-3-2011
Location: earth
Member Is Offline

Mood: sleepy

[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 05:34 PM


Mar 5, return mar 30. $135 includes more bags and a bicycle, $85 for 1 22 pound carry on.

Before I click, what was that thread about the weather? Would march be to hot way down there? Did you say the creek is no longer dry? So i can collect water on my bicycle route?



[Edited on 1-14-2019 by joerover]




the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
View user's profile
geronimo21
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 42
Registered: 3-29-2016
Location: The Sonoran Desert
Member Is Offline

Mood: A Baja State of Mind

[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 06:00 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  


Alaska is from LA. Volaris is from TJ.

I live in LA and have 3 kids that we travel with to Baja and Sonora. Trust me, we've gone back and forth on what is better. We do both routes. Kinda depends on how many are traveling with and how much time you have.

FMM is included in the price of the ticket for flights from the US.


10-4, JZ. My wife and I will be coming from Phoenix, our friends from Vegas and Barstow...So, not sure that it matters LA vs. TJ for us, but L.A. might be closer for them...so it will likely depend on whether it's important for them to save some extra coins by driving further to SD/TJ for the flight vs. convenience of flying out of L.A....

I've flown Alaska before a long time ago and I remember the level of service was outstanding. I'm assuming it's still that way.

Can you comment how Volaris compares in that regard? What type of planes will they use for that route to Loreto? I'm assuming jet of some kind...

[Edited on 1-14-2019 by geronimo21]
View user's profile
JZ
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 3548
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 06:21 PM


Volaris planes are pretty new. The flight is short, so it really doesn't matter that much.

I like flying Alaska back from Loreto because most times you can pay $50 at the counter and get upgraded to 1st class.

Pro-tip, when flying direct from the US to MX you want to be at the front of the plane. It will save you a minimum of 45mins clearing customs compared to sitting in the back. Not as big of a deal when flying intra Mexico.



[Edited on 1-14-2019 by JZ]




See Baja California in 4K: https://youtu.be/4VNTIhRa6q0

Ever wanted to camp on a deserted island in the Sea of Cortez? https://youtu.be/g3ThXCm3XSA

Come along for a ride of the famous Seven Sisters https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs



View user's profile
geronimo21
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 42
Registered: 3-29-2016
Location: The Sonoran Desert
Member Is Offline

Mood: A Baja State of Mind

[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 06:52 PM
Mexican Rental cars and Insurance


We're also looking into renting a vehicle while in Loreto/La Paz...

There's a thread over on Talk Baja with some pretty good suggestions.

Some are to check with your credit card company and find out if they cover collision and look into purchasing liability from a company other the rental company.

BajaBound does not offer a program to insure Mexican rental vehicles, but they suggested Sanborn's.

Someone on Talk Baja recommended renting vehicles through Luis Cesena. Apparently, he is a manager at Mex Rentacar located in TJ (?) and can rent vehicles for you anywhere in Baja "with no hidden crap" (according to the referrer). His e-mail is Luis Cesena

From Lewis & Lewis: "The Liability Only Driver’s License premium for a Mexican registered vehicle is $129.97 per license per month, no collision/fire or theft.

In order to provide an accurate quotation for the tourist vehicle, please reply to this email with a value

As each vehicle must have its own policy, the insurance coverage cannot be combined."

I hope this information helps.
View user's profile
geronimo21
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 42
Registered: 3-29-2016
Location: The Sonoran Desert
Member Is Offline

Mood: A Baja State of Mind

[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 06:57 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
Volaris planes are pretty new. The flight is short, so it really doesn't matter that much.

I like flying Alaska back from Loreto because most times you can pay $50 at the counter and get upgraded to 1st class.

Pro-tip, when flying direct from the US to MX you want to be at the front of the plane. It will save you a minimum of 45mins clearing customs compared to sitting in the back. Not as big of a deal when flying intra Mexico.

[Edited on 1-14-2019 by JZ]


Thanks for the pro tips, JZ.
View user's profile
wilderone
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 3368
Registered: 2-9-2004
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-13-2019 at 07:30 PM


What would be the advantage of getting rental car insurance from some place other than through the rental car company? I've never found rates to be unusually high. These seem reasonable - note liability ins. included; unlimited mileage included. You can make a reservation online.

https://www.expedia.com/carsearch?dagv=1&subm=1&fdrp...
View user's profile
geronimo21
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 42
Registered: 3-29-2016
Location: The Sonoran Desert
Member Is Offline

Mood: A Baja State of Mind

[*] posted on 1-15-2019 at 01:13 AM


Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  
What would be the advantage of getting rental car insurance from some place other than through the rental car company? I've never found rates to be unusually high. These seem reasonable - note liability ins. included; unlimited mileage included. You can make a reservation online.

https://www.expedia.com/carsearch?dagv=1&subm=1&fdrp...


This should probably be its own separate thread...but since we're already going...:D

What would be the advantage of getting rental car insurance from some place other than through the rental car company?

It seems many people have experienced being overcharged. They book online for one price, get to the counter and are presented with a much higher price. Or, they buy insurance from the rental company online, get to the counter and are told they can't use it.

You can read about it on this thread from Talk Baja

It sounds like some people did not feel hosed, but many did.

Not all liability coverages are the same. Probably best to check what policy limits are being offered.

From Sanborn's: "Third Party Liability provided by the rental car company is, in most cases, null or minimal leaving you with great exposure and risk to be held liable for damages to others and their property. Legal aid and bond will be an additional expense. Check with the rental car company to see what limits they offer and at what cost, so you can compare to the policy we offer."

Apparently, some credit card companies cover collision or it can also be obtained through rentalcover.com. Rentalcover.com's collision insurance is $60 for five days ($12/day) of coverage up to $35,000.

One poster on Talk Baja said he was able to get two weeks of liability through Lewis & Lewis for about $88. L&L quoted me around $129 for a month. Now that I think about it, L&L didn't specify what coverage levels they offer for that premium.

I'm not sure if they offer a two week policy anymore. I have an e-mail into them and am waiting for a response. I'm going to get a quote from Sanborn's, also.

L&L are underwriters for Qualitas. Sanborn's underwrites for HDI Seguros.

It seems that it may be advantageous to get outside insurance if the rental period will be for a longer period of time. For example, if liability insurance through the rental company is $17/day, that would add up to $510 per month whereas L&L offers it for $129 for the same period - a savings of $381. Most people probably don't rent for a month, so I guess it might be worth it to find the "break even" point for length of rentals.

I'm glad you have found the rates reasonable. I'm still doing my research.
View user's profile
wilderone
Elite Nomad
******




Posts: 3368
Registered: 2-9-2004
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-15-2019 at 06:19 AM


"... being overcharged. They book online for one price, get to the counter and are presented with a much higher price."
So push back - it's negotiable. Has never happened to me. Besides, if you're at an airport location, and there are 5 rental car companies lined up, you just walk away and find another. In the old days, I would make reservations with two companies, so if I got any kind of flak from one, I'd be able to have a Plan B. Only in Hawaii did I resort to that tactic.

"Or, they buy insurance from the rental company online, get to the counter and are told they can't use it."
I think that would be impossible, since that insurance is what the rental company offers and is contractually bound to honor.

Aren't you splitting costs anyway? Sometimes rental companies offer a very low daily rental, and insurance is like $22-$30/day. In Cancun you can often rent a car for $5-$9/day. Too, some companies have a "prepay" rate - lower than making a reservation and paying upon arrival. The terms are pretty clear -- offer is made, agreement to same, all documented, printed out.
Legal aid and bond is always included in the basic liability coverage (with a specific dollar amount).
Re: "It will save you a minimum of 45mins clearing customs compared to sitting in the back." Nonsense - You have to pick up your baggage first - everybody waits regardless of where your seat on the plane was unless you only have carry-on and you can proceed directly to customs.
View user's profile
rhintransit
Super Nomad
****




Posts: 1546
Registered: 9-4-2006
Location: Loreto
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-15-2019 at 09:00 AM


The question is Volaris to Loreto, with Alaska from Los Angeles on the side. A better answer is Calafia to Loreto, at least on the transparent cost side.
I’ve flown Calafia many many times since they established their TJ-Loreto route. I hope Volaris provides healthy competition rather than a threat to their continued operation, but am concerned.
Personally, I would never chose to fly Volaris if I could help it...one experience on another route was enough.




reality\'s never been of much use out here...
View user's profile
JZ
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 3548
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-15-2019 at 10:53 AM


Quote: Originally posted by rhintransit  

Personally, I would never chose to fly Volaris if I could help it...one experience on another route was enough.


I've flown Calafia several times. I like them. Particularly because they have direct flights Guaymas to Loreto. Into TJ they fly those small 3 seat per row jets that I'm guessing they bought from Aero Mexico after they stopped some routes.

But this comment on Volaris is just a horrible take. They are a good airline. They have newer planes than Calafia. You can have one bad experience on any airline.




See Baja California in 4K: https://youtu.be/4VNTIhRa6q0

Ever wanted to camp on a deserted island in the Sea of Cortez? https://youtu.be/g3ThXCm3XSA

Come along for a ride of the famous Seven Sisters https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs



View user's profile
JZ
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 3548
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-15-2019 at 11:03 AM


Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  

Re: "It will save you a minimum of 45mins clearing customs compared to sitting in the back." Nonsense - You have to pick up your baggage first - everybody waits regardless of where your seat on the plane was unless you only have carry-on and you can proceed directly to customs.


Maybe I should have said immigration instead of customs. The first thing you have to do getting off the plane is go through immigration, and it's much better to be 1st than 150th. You might have to wait a little to get your bag, but there is still 75+ ppl that haven't gotten their passport stamped yet by the time you get it.


I always carry on. So I'm at the hotel drinking a beer while you are still dicking around at the airport.


[Edited on 1-15-2019 by JZ]




See Baja California in 4K: https://youtu.be/4VNTIhRa6q0

Ever wanted to camp on a deserted island in the Sea of Cortez? https://youtu.be/g3ThXCm3XSA

Come along for a ride of the famous Seven Sisters https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs



View user's profile
geronimo21
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 42
Registered: 3-29-2016
Location: The Sonoran Desert
Member Is Offline

Mood: A Baja State of Mind

[*] posted on 1-16-2019 at 11:18 PM


Lewis & Lewis got back to me.

One month policy only.

Liability Only For Mexican plated rented vehicles

Bodily Injury/Property Damage - $500,000 US

Medical - $10,000 Per person / $50,000 Per accident

$100,000 - Legal Service for Bail Bond/Attorney / Criminal and Civil Defense
View user's profile
Bob and Susan
Select Nomad
*******


Avatar


Posts: 8478
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Mulege BCS on the BAY
Member Is Offline

Mood: Full Time Residents

[*] posted on 1-17-2019 at 05:46 AM


how much?

and more important

will the rental company allow you to insure this way?
have you contacted them and is it in writing?

it would be bad to find out at the rental company in mexico that the company requires that yo use THEIR insurance provider




our website is:
http://www.mulege.org
View user's profile Visit user's homepage
JZ
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 3548
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-17-2019 at 10:35 AM


I've always gone through the rental companies to get insurance. Never had a problem.

Use rentalcars.com to find the best rates. Sometimes you can reserve w/o having to give a CC (maybe not for MX). Great deals can often be found right at the counter, with pretty big discounts. But you might not want to rely on that unless you can tell from you searches that there is likely to be tons of availability, or better, can reserve something that can be cancelled.

Another pro tip, rent a 4x4 Jeep. Lots more fun in Baja.


[Edited on 1-18-2019 by JZ]




See Baja California in 4K: https://youtu.be/4VNTIhRa6q0

Ever wanted to camp on a deserted island in the Sea of Cortez? https://youtu.be/g3ThXCm3XSA

Come along for a ride of the famous Seven Sisters https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs



View user's profile
geronimo21
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 42
Registered: 3-29-2016
Location: The Sonoran Desert
Member Is Offline

Mood: A Baja State of Mind

[*] posted on 1-17-2019 at 11:51 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Bob and Susan  
how much?

Prices listed further up thread...Haven't asked for a quote from Sanborn's...so don't know what they charge.

and more important

will the rental company allow you to insure this way?

Apparently, some will and some won't. Obviously, very prudent to get this sorted ahead of time.

have you contacted them and is it in writing?

Not personally, but others have.

it would be bad to find out at the rental company in mexico that the company requires that yo use THEIR insurance provider

Agreed.
View user's profile
geronimo21
Junior Nomad
*




Posts: 42
Registered: 3-29-2016
Location: The Sonoran Desert
Member Is Offline

Mood: A Baja State of Mind

[*] posted on 1-17-2019 at 11:53 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  
I've always gone through the rental companies to get insurance. Never had a problem.

Use rentalcars.com to find best the rates. Sometimes you can reserve w/o having to give a CC (maybe not for MX). Great deals can often be found right at the counter, with pretty big discounts. But you might not want to rely on that unless you can tell from you searches that there is likely to be tons of availability, or better, can reserve something that can be cancelled.

Another pro tip, rent a 4x4 Jeep. Lots more fun in Baja.


Thanks for the tips, JZ.
View user's profile
Alm
Ultra Nomad
*****




Posts: 2067
Registered: 5-10-2011
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-18-2019 at 05:33 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  

Maybe I should have said immigration instead of customs. The first thing you have to do getting off the plane is go through immigration, and it's much better to be 1st than 150th. You might have to wait a little to get your bag, but there is still 75+ ppl that haven't gotten their passport stamped yet by the time you get it.

Oddly, when I flew LA to LTO (didn't do this in the last 5 years), it didn't matter. INM guy processed bodies very quickly, most people filled their FMM on the plane. Then it took half an hour to retrieve the luggage, and by that time everybody form the plane was already at the carousel. They were running smaller planes then, not 737.
View user's profile
JZ
Elite Nomad
******


Avatar


Posts: 3548
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-18-2019 at 06:48 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Alm  

Oddly, when I flew LA to LTO (didn't do this in the last 5 years), it didn't matter. INM guy processed bodies very quickly, most people filled their FMM on the plane. Then it took half an hour to retrieve the luggage, and by that time everybody form the plane was already at the carousel. They were running smaller planes then, not 737.


Yeah, their existing planes hold 150 ppl and they are pretty full.




See Baja California in 4K: https://youtu.be/4VNTIhRa6q0

Ever wanted to camp on a deserted island in the Sea of Cortez? https://youtu.be/g3ThXCm3XSA

Come along for a ride of the famous Seven Sisters https://youtu.be/hrdzmTWPUQs



View user's profile
 Pages:  1    3

  Go To Top

 






All Content Copyright � 1997- Q87 International; All Rights Reserved.
Powered by XMB; XMB Forum Software © 2001-2014 The XMB Group�






"If it were lush and rich, one could understand the pull, but it is fierce and hostile and sullen. The stone mountains pile up to the sky and there is little fresh water. But we know we must go back if we live, and we don't know why." - Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez

"People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care." - Ivan R. Misner, Ph.D

"You can easily judge the character of others by how they treat those who they think can do nothing for them or to them." - Malcolm Forbes

"Let others lead small lives, but not you. Let others argue over small things, but not you. Let others cry over small hurts, but not you. Let others leave their future in someone else's hands, but not you." - Jim Rohn







Thank you to Baja Bound Mexico Insurance Services for your long-term support of the BajaNomad.com Forums site.







Emergency Baja Contacts Include:

Desert Hawks; El Rosario-based ambulance transport; Emergency #: (616) 103-0262