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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 03:02 PM
Mordida isn't Bribery


It's a time-honored institutional solution to bureaucratic inconvenience and inconsistency.

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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 05:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  

It's like some poltician in NY saying the border is not a crisis, when agents who are THERE on the ground 7-24 365 say it is.


Not one of the leaders of our intelligence services even mentioned the border as a major national security issue yesterday in televised Congressional hearings. Crisis? What crisis? Perhaps a bit of hyperbole, Mr. D?:D

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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 06:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  

It's like some poltician in NY saying the border is not a crisis, when agents who are THERE on the ground 7-24 365 say it is.


Not one of the leaders of our intelligence services even mentioned the border as a major national security issue yesterday in televised Congressional hearings. Crisis? What crisis? Perhaps a bit of hyperbole, Mr. D?:D

[Edited on 2-1-2019 by John Harper]


Would you believe that a major national security issue may have something to do with China, NK and the Ruskies, of which those intelligence officials were talking about, is the reason nothing was said about Mexico and the immigration conundrum?

Not sure where you fall in all this really....a major national security issue to me is NK with nukes, China with nukes and the Ruskies with nukes....all of whom are foes of the US and NK has threatened to nuke Seattle, Guam and Hawaii.
Which happens to be what their assesments were all about.

Did GWB and Obama consider it a "crisis" when they sent troops to the border region?....
Or is it only Trump who gets that push back?

Do you believe the CBP when they say it's at "crisis" proportions? They are after all, there on that line everyday, all day, 365. Are they blowing off a bit of hyperbole?

In the end, the intelligence agencies have bigger filets of corvina to fry than the contiguous border with Mexico agreed?








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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 06:36 PM


Well, as usual, an interesting post takes a left turn and ends up in the septic tank.

Hoping the folks down south can ignore this drivel, lean back, have a few cervezas, and next time get the FMM.

sigh..........
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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 06:59 PM


Someone mentioned that Julieta could take care of the problem???? I have never heard this before.

It would be nice to have this confirmed.






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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 07:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Well, as usual, an interesting post takes a left turn and ends up in the septic tank.

Hoping the folks down south can ignore this drivel, lean back, have a few cervezas, and next time get the FMM.

sigh..........


Well said, I'll checkout now...
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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 07:29 PM
What Those Agents Say IS .......................


.......... Give US MORE ?

Having a dog in the hunt, it's the rare affected Cop that thinks (or says) more enforcement personnel, tools and equipment aren't the answer.
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[*] posted on 1-31-2019 at 07:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
.......... Give US MORE ?

Having a dog in the hunt, it's the rare affected Cop that thinks (or says) more enforcement personnel, tools and equipment aren't the answer.


Versus the "dog" (masculine) or "b-tches" (feminine) in the hunt, in and around the beltway, who have a vested interest in maintaining their jobs.

Despite the "dogs" who are there on the line everyday, all day, 365, their word takes more creds than any stuffed suit in a cushy reclining chair, sweating if they can keep the screaming idiots in line, inbetween trips to a warm sandy beach in the tropics.




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[*] posted on 2-1-2019 at 09:12 AM


Whoa, it looks like Dale Dali, turned this thread into the support the wall thread!

Of course, the border patrol, agents, said, lots of things, according to different articles or studies. One, study the Border Patrol, agents, supported more agent, and more high tech equipment, and said very little about a wall.

The other study the border patrol chief, and union, does say, the border agents support a wall at " Strategic Locations," which BTW is what we already have in many places, like San Ysidro.

It should be noted, talking about a wall in Strategic Locations, is a far cry from what Trump, was talking about during the campaign, where he painted a picture, like the Great Wall of China, which he called, " "big, beautiful wall" that was supposed to stretch from the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf of Mexico.

I see nothing where the Border patrol, supports, Trump's original, " big beautiful wall," that was supposed to run the border and be made of concrete 30 feet tall.

Now it''s down to artistically designed steel slats, in strategic locations, and the US tax payers, have to pay for it, instead of Mexico.

If I was a Trump, voter, I would feel cheated.





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[*] posted on 2-1-2019 at 09:37 AM


Quote: Originally posted by DaliDali  

Do you believe the CBP when they say it's at "crisis" proportions? They are after all, there on that line everyday, all day, 365. Are they blowing off a bit of hyperbole?

In the end, the intelligence agencies have bigger filets of corvina to fry than the contiguous border with Mexico agreed?


1. I believe they certainly support a bigger budget, yes, and crying "crisis" always helps. Don't you agree that border crossings have steadily declined for several years? All the CBP statistics support this fact, don't they?

2. I think analyzing any and all threats (military, economic, social, biological, natural phenomenon) is all part of "national security intelligence." Including an assessment of the relative threats from our borders. That's what I'm paying taxes for, IMO. You would think that with all Trump's fear-mongering about the threat of nannies and construction workers taking over our country they would have at least mentioned something about the border. Wouldn't you?

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[*] posted on 2-1-2019 at 09:41 AM


Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Well, as usual, an interesting post takes a left turn and ends up in the septic tank.

Hoping the folks down south can ignore this drivel, lean back, have a few cervezas, and next time get the FMM.

sigh..........


LOL. We've all read several inflammatory "bombs" you've tossed into the forum. What's that parable about living in a glass house?

Maybe you need to find your "safe space" away from other's opinions?

John

[Edited on 2-1-2019 by John Harper]
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[*] posted on 2-1-2019 at 10:13 AM
Truth in the Time of Trump


Forget facts (and Occum) when debating those among the hardcore Donald Dupes. Logic and credibility within the Clan is determined by whatever the Great Leader is (disjointedly) uttering at the moment.
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[*] posted on 2-1-2019 at 10:34 AM


Lets get back on topic, before the boo birds, get mad, and claim the thread went too far off topic.

I am again pleased that nobody told the OP, to tell their friends from Colorado, who didn't stop at the border to get a FMM, to drive back from Punta Chivato, near Mulege, all the way back to the border, some 600 or 700 miles, to get a FMM.

Most members here said, " don't worry about it, but next time, stop and get your FMM, but for now just enjoy your trip, although we had one member here, who indirectly scolded, the friends from Colorado, telling about doing due diligence, and said, "it was sheer negligence on their part."

Personally, I rank the offensive here is about the equivalent to jay walking.









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[*] posted on 2-1-2019 at 06:27 PM
crawl back under your rock, John


Quote: Originally posted by John Harper  
Quote: Originally posted by thebajarunner  
Well, as usual, an interesting post takes a left turn and ends up in the septic tank.

Hoping the folks down south can ignore this drivel, lean back, have a few cervezas, and next time get the FMM.

sigh..........


LOL. We've all read several inflammatory "bombs" you've tossed into the forum. What's that parable about living in a glass house?

Maybe you need to find your "safe space" away from other's opinions?

John

[Edited on 2-1-2019 by John Harper]


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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 11:14 AM


Sometimes this site is like NASCAR, and regarding the wall. McConnell, warned Trump, against an emergency declaration to build the border wall, because many members in the GOP will balk, and throw in with the democrats to stop Trump.

So it looks like we won't have that big beautiful wall anytime soon.
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Now back to the topic at hand, the FMM, and being in Mexico, legally in all aspects of the law while in Mexico.

My question is to those who travel to Mexico, when they are still paying/financing their car with monthly payments, so therefore, your bank holds title to your car.

Do you contact your bank, and ask for permission to take your car to Mexico, and also ask them to generate a letter giving you permission to Mexico, or whatever their requirements are?

I bet very few people who owe payments on their car, actually contact their bank for permission to take their car to Mexico, nor do they even know about the requirements.







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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 11:30 AM
Deja Vu All Over Again


Hasn't THAT subject been Flogged to Smithereens ?
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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 11:53 AM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
Hasn't THAT subject been Flogged to Smithereens ?


There are lots of threads on the FMM, and the great beautiful wall, but I doubt there are any or very few threads of taking a financed car by your bank or credit union to Mexico.

I ask because there are many here that claim they always follow the law and all procedures when in Mexico, and they demand you follow all laws and requirements too.

So the question remains. Does your bank know you are taking their car to Mexico, since they are the lein holder?

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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 12:05 PM


Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM  
Hasn't THAT subject been Flogged to Smithereens ?


thanks Bill, I haven't thought of the Smithereens in years! :P....Blood and Roses
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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 12:14 PM


I found one thread on 'Baja Nomad' that talks about taking a bank financed car to Mexico, but that was in 2005.

It's about time this topic is revisited in 2019.

The question remains. If your car is bank financed, does your bank know you are taking your car to Mexico, since they hold title to your car and have a lot to lose if you get into a accident in Mexico?







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[*] posted on 2-2-2019 at 12:56 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JoeJustJoe  


I ask because there are many here that claim they always follow the law and all procedures when in Mexico, and they demand you follow all laws and requirements too.

So the question remains. Does your bank know you are taking their car to Mexico, since they are the lein holder?


That's a contract issue (if it even exists), not a law. So the analogy doesn't work.


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