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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 03:21 PM
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In researching the archives I found this.
Some excellent old photos and stories...
I believe private flying in Baja will make a comeback.
I might keep a rental at Brown Field for pilots who want a dream trip of a lifetime.
Probably a Cherokee 6.
Parking it at TJ makes sense to.
They can walk across and take a cab to the private terminal.
No hassle for the plane. It's in the country legally aready.
No rule against it... probably...
All the "business" takes place online. Not in Baja.
A private pilot will be making a private flight.
I guess I will need to meet them there and give them the key to the plane.
They can follow me to my camp and stay or keep on going south...


https://www.cabovillas.com/blog/flying-to-baja-in-the-1970s-...





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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 03:59 PM


Great article... on a private pilot flying to Baja but no mention of Capt. Muñoz (Baja Air Service airline) or Arnold Senterfitt (Airports of Baja and Baja California author and Bush Pilots founder).

The glory days of flying Baja Air Service...




Erle Stanley Gardner and Captain Muñoz.











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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 04:04 PM


Capitan Munoz!
My hero.
I will study him and find a living connection if I can.
He knew everthing there was to know!




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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 04:09 PM


I wonder if that is the same Lodestar that is out on one of the islands.
Guadalupe I think.




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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 04:14 PM


Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Capitan Munoz!
My hero.
I will study him and find a living connection if I can.
He knew everthing there was to know!


My dad flew with Muñoz in 1967... He let my dad sit up front in the co-pilot seat (Muñoz never had a co-pilot I heard of).

Tad (Desert Ghost on Nomad) met Capt. Muñoz:





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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 04:24 PM


It is a long read.
But here is a snip.
It's in there. "...Capt. Muñoz (Baja Air Service airline)"...
Hence the title of the thread.

Every resort had its diesel generator set for electrical power. Often the generators were shut down at 9:00 –10:00pm and then it was dark and quiet. There were no sounds of cars, trucks, trains, and airplanes at night. The night was filled with only the moon, stars, and the silence of the desert. 

General aviation played a big part in communication in those days, particularly for anyone needing assistance. All general aviation aircraft monitored 122.8Mz while flying in Baja. Anyone needing help would have an aircraft broadcast the need on 122.8MZ and any aircraft receiving the transmission could relay it as necessary to get help. The only air service that I was aware of at the time was Baja Airlines out of Tijuana. It was founded by Francisco Muñoz known to we fliers as Captain Muñoz, the “Baja Bush Pilot.” So anytime a boat or airplane needed a part or something, you relayed the message to Captain Muñoz and he’d come to assist those in need even if it required landing on the beach.






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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 04:29 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
Capitan Munoz!
My hero.
I will study him and find a living connection if I can.
He knew everthing there was to know!


My dad flew with Muñoz in 1967... He let my dad sit up front in the co-pilot seat (Muñoz never had a co-pilot I heard of).

Tad (Desert Ghost on Nomad) met Capt. Muñoz:



So dang cool!




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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 04:55 PM


Mike, he was really a great guy to treat my dad so well... You couldn't ask for friendlier service or hospitality. I never met Francisco at least when I was an adult. However, when I was camping at Gecko, 2002, Doc came running over to where I was and said Capt. Muñoz just "flew" by in his pickup truck... He owned the property just south of Camp Gecko, at his nice long L.A. Bay South runway.









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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 04:57 PM


It just get's better. Thanks



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[*] posted on 3-20-2019 at 10:30 PM


I see on Google Earth that Capitan Munoz runway is still there and for the most part intact.
Can I use it?
Does anyone live nearby.
Which house was Caps house?
He must have landed his Lockheed there many times. And that's a big plane. And tail dragger for extra excitement.
Not the best spot to fish from but ultra cool if the runway is useable.
Noted for being out of the BOLA wind. Which can be... interesting

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[*] posted on 3-21-2019 at 08:01 AM


LarryC had a home there, sold a few years ago: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=33821

I think they didn't renew the permit for the runway, but am not positive,? Check this thread (Capt. Muñoz is mentioned): http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=33821

Baja Nomad 'steekers' is a pilot and was looking for a gulf side property with a runway, so this was one. Punta Bufeo (near Gonzaga) is another... and of course Alfonsina's (which has a home for sale now by DTPrice that would be ideal for you)! http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=92032



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[*] posted on 3-21-2019 at 12:15 PM


Quote: Originally posted by David K  
LarryC had a home there, sold a few years ago: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=33821

I think they didn't renew the permit for the runway, but am not positive,? Check this thread (Capt. Muñoz is mentioned): http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=33821

Baja Nomad 'steekers' is a pilot and was looking for a gulf side property with a runway, so this was one. Punta Bufeo (near Gonzaga) is another... and of course Alfonsina's (which has a home for sale now by DTPrice that would be ideal for you)! http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=92032



[Edited on 3-21-2019 by David K]


Thenk you again DK.
Yes I remember those Baja Nomads.
Come on everyone. Let's keep these runways alive.
Don't let the Cap down.
This guy landed on the beach to help people and deliver vital materials.
Think about that!
Captain Munoz was as important as any character in Baja history.
And none of the others could fly!




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[*] posted on 3-21-2019 at 10:14 PM


A very indepth article about the Captain.

https://m.sandiegoreader.com/news/1995/sep/21/cover-ive-got-...




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[*] posted on 3-22-2019 at 07:46 AM


Quote: Originally posted by fishbuck  
A very indepth article about the Captain.

https://m.sandiegoreader.com/news/1995/sep/21/cover-ive-got-...


The article is terrific, but for one fact, I am pretty sure it was the 1960s not 50s when he grew his air service with the twin-engine plane. His route was Tijuana-L.A. Bay-Mulegé-Puerto Vallarta and back (in 1967). It has been rumored that Erle Stanley Gardner was his financial backer to help grow the airline.




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[*] posted on 3-22-2019 at 11:28 AM


Is there a book?
From the article.

"A project occupies Muñoz’s mind. Several years ago, he asked Lynn Mitchell, a friend and local writer, to write his biography, a challenge that Mitchell accepted with alacrity"

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[*] posted on 3-22-2019 at 11:44 AM


I think Lynn used to work at Discover Baja Travel Club... and started a Baja tour business after that, called "Baja and Beyond"



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[*] posted on 3-22-2019 at 12:32 PM


I found some info about her.
She is 70 and lives in San Diego.
Baja and Beyond is listed as "desolved".
I have an address.
Doe anyone in here have contact with this lady?

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[*] posted on 3-22-2019 at 12:36 PM


You can call Discover Baja Travel Club and ask about her and ask if she ever wrote the book... I searched for it but didn't see it on Google.



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[*] posted on 3-22-2019 at 12:41 PM


Thanks
Maybe still working on it...




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[*] posted on 3-23-2019 at 11:52 AM


Here is a little info from BBP.
I love to get information on my own about flying. That's just the way flying is.
But it is not necessary to re-invent the airplane each flight.
So I went to BBP and checked.
Seems those hombres on staying on top of things for me and that's good
They are activly assisting several runway owners through the recetification process and have completed atleast 1. Seveal others are near completion.
Its not impossible. But you have to want it. I want to help if I can.
So I will get a membership to have a password to the really good info.
I think any answers about Baja flying past, present, and future are with them.
But I will still seek my own answers... and I get them if they are there.



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