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RFClark
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John,
Which part of “Justice” is about Looting and burning plus beating random civilians. Then there is the mass murder of minorities by other
minorities! Which part of “Justice” is that?
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Tioloco
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Was just kidding. I guess my old buddies and I are just a bit more rough around the edges.
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MrBillM
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Ditching the Duke
Forget about a John Wayne statue.
He's soon to be Gone with the Wind of Unconditional Ostracism.
Those "Mostly Peaceful" rioting, burning, looting disciples of historical hysteria want his Racist name wiped off O.C.'s airport and
banished to the Sarcophagus of Shame.
The leading (Asian) candidates to replace him are said to be Le Duc Tho or Vo Nguyen Giap, but that is unconfirmed.
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John Harper
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Quote: Originally posted by RFClark  | John,
Which part of “Justice” is about Looting and burning plus beating random civilians. Then there is the mass murder of minorities by other
minorities! Which part of “Justice” is that? |
Do we associate everyone on the right with Tim McVeigh? Don't blame 99.9% of the peaceful protesters for a few bad apples.
John
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RFClark
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Well,
McVeigh and friend were two domestic terrorists! They killed 168 people for which they were punished! That was in April 1995. Since that same date
there have been on average 564 murders a year just in Chicago alone. Most are minority on minority crimes. Most are unsolved! That’s around 15K in
murders just for CHI. Want to add East St Louis and 10 or so other large “Blue” cities to that number. This year Chicago is on a roll with almost
300 murders in the first 6 months that’s up almost 30%!
But “Blue Privilege” and “White Privilege” are the problem, looting and burning neighborhood minority owned stores is the “solution”!
(Not)
There have been 2 or 3 minority murders in the police free zone in Seattle just in the last few days! None involving the police!
I’m not associating the peaceful protesters with the violence! I’m saying that they are clueless about what the real problem is or the solution.
Most of them have never lived in a mostly minority urban area! How about you? I grew up a mile or so from Watts. My draft board’s office was at 54st
& Crenshaw and Killer King Hospital was just down the street!
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Well,
McVeigh and friend were two domestic terrorists! They killed 168 people for which they were punished! That was in April 1995. Since that same date
there have been on average 564 murders a year just in Chicago alone. Most are minority on minority crimes. Most are unsolved! That’s around 15K in
murders just for CHI. Want to add East St Louis and 10 or so other large “Blue” cities to that number. This year Chicago is on a roll with almost
300 murders in the first 6 months that’s up almost 30%!
But “Blue Privilege” and “White Privilege” are the problem, looting and burning neighborhood minority owned stores is the “solution”!
(Not)
There have been 2 or 3 minority murders in the police free zone in Seattle just in the last few days! None involving the police!
I’m not associating the peaceful protesters with the violence! I’m saying that they are clueless about what the real problem is or the solution.
Most of them have never lived in a mostly minority urban area! How about you? I grew up a mile or so from Watts. My draft board’s office was at 54st
& Crenshaw and Killer King Hospital was just down the street! |
85% of whites attack and kill other whites. This is a problem that has been happening across the country and still plagues our nation.
Stop using 'Black-on-Black crime statistics' to pull the focus away from Police brutality.
link: https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/06/stop-using-black-on-b...
White on White crime: An unspoken tragedy
link: https://westtexastribune.com/white-on-white-crime-an-unspoke...
Before attempting to fix my house, you need to get your house in order!
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RFClark
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Ken,
Recently, where policing has been reduced violence and murder have increased dramatically. In Chicago, NYC, LA, Minneapolis and Seattle! What is your
solution?
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Society and culture are two different things
The strategic societal goals of reducing gang violence is a good thing.
The tactical plan to implement that goal is hindered by the embedded culture of the inner city gangs and the lack of any educational or economic path
to transition from that inner city gang culture.
Culture counts, mentoring the correct culture is the path forward. Traditional police work doesn't have this part in their playbook and that is the
change our society desires in the job.
Police union's wants NO part of that, so status quo it is as secretly desired by both political parties, but the masses are to wrapped up in their
anger to ever begin to see that.
Es Todo Bueno
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It's Gonna be a Hoot !
Those of us who chose decades ago to emigrate from the toxic urban sprawl are (so far) fairly immune from the inevitable crowd chaos and destruction,
so it's easy to view the ongoing absurdity as an alternate entertainment medium, especially with the various premium channels offering so much
repetitive and limited movie fare.
Eventually, of course, the official "Cheek-Spreading" is going to hit us financially, but so far-so good.
With all of this nonsense about reducing the (already insufficient) level of law-enforcement, about the worst possible idea that I've heard/seen is
that of dispatching "Mental Health Counselors" instead of armed officers) to calls involving nutcases. Especially,
Domestic Disturbances which LE officers consider one of the MOST dangerous calls that they go on.
Should they find enough of those "counselors" dumb enough to give that a try, expect to see a rise in body-bagged counselors.
Which will make for "must-see" TV.
[Edited on 7-1-2020 by MrBillM]
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Ken,
Recently, where policing has been reduced violence and murder have increased dramatically. In Chicago, NYC, LA, Minneapolis and Seattle! What is your
solution? |
RFClark, Have you been following the George Floyd arrest?
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MrBillM
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Following Floyd
Was a Riot !
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke | | Quote: Originally posted by RFClark | Ken,
Recently, where policing has been reduced violence and murder have increased dramatically. In Chicago, NYC, LA, Minneapolis and Seattle! What is your
solution? |
RFClark, Have you been following the George Floyd arrest? |
This troll is trying to bait you, Ken. It is arguing for the other side.
Today, President Bunkerboy said Black Lives Matter is a symbol of hate. Bet all the republicans are behind him on that.
Some of those people are posting here.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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pacificobob
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impotus has managed to make racism the defining characteristic of the Republican platform. i was naive for some years thinking we were living in a
post racial America. as much as i would like to blame der gropen fuhrer for this, he can only be credited for seeing , enabling ,encouraging and
exploiting the fear 40% of Americans have regarding the browning of the usa. there is nothing as easy to sell as fear.
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MrBillM
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Nothing Sells Fear Better ..............
.............. Than having something to FEAR.
Granting that DT is a master at stoking division, crowds rioting, looting, burning and destroying symbols of American (not just
Confederate) history while vocalizing their intent to " Burn the System Down " ............ Fear is both reasonable and in
need of response.
The mobs ARE to be FEARED.
And FOUGHT.
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motoged
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Really? Where and when was that?
It seems most mass murders are done in the usa by crazy white guys....
Don't believe everything you think....
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pacificobob
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| Quote: Originally posted by MrBillM | .............. Than having something to FEAR.
Granting that DT is a master at stoking division, crowds rioting, looting, burning and destroying symbols of American (not just
Confederate) history while vocalizing their intent to " Burn the System Down " ............ Fear is both reasonable and in
need of response.
The mobs ARE to be FEARED.
And FOUGHT. |
it worked on you bill....you're frightened. choose not to be. changes need to be made.....it will not happen by voting. voting changes very
little....if it did they wouldn't let us do it.
[Edited on 7-2-2020 by pacificobob]
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Barry A.
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| Quote: Originally posted by BajaTed | Society and culture are two different things
The strategic societal goals of reducing gang violence is a good thing.
The tactical plan to implement that goal is hindered by the embedded culture of the inner city gangs and the lack of any educational or economic path
to transition from that inner city gang culture.
Culture counts, mentoring the correct culture is the path forward. Traditional police work doesn't have this part in their playbook and that is the
change our society desires in the job.
Police union's wants NO part of that, so status quo it is as secretly desired by both political parties, but the masses are to wrapped up in their
anger to ever begin to see that.
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I agree 100%---------bingo!!!!!
Barry
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MrBillM
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No Fear Here
I'm simply ready to do what I've been ready to do (and doing) since teen years. Legally (more or less) shoot anyone who presents a deadly threat.
And, I encourage others to be ready to do the same.
Not that any encouragement seems to be necessary. Gun sales are breaking new records daily as citizens become aware that
THIS may be IT !
Armageddon !
We were caught by surprise in '65. We've now had plenty of warning.
It will be kill or be killed with none of that nonsense that the cops are going to be there to "Protect and Serve". I've had a gun come to
my aid a number of times in six decades and the cops none.
On the one hand, this accumulating crap is frustrating and depressing but, at this stage near the closing end, it's also exciting. Going out with a
bang (literally) and taking one or more along beats hell out of a miserable deterioration from (Cancer, Covid, Heart, or ......) disease. I've seen
too many rot away in agony to choose that.
Years back, there was an old geezer in Anaheim that made the news when, after numerous incidents, he blew away one of the kids who were
constantly trespassing over (and damaging) his lawn and landscaping. As he explained, he was fed up, dying from cancer and said "to hell with it,
what can they do to me".
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John Harper
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I've owned firearms for almost 55 years now and feel the same as lencho. It's exceptionally rare that anyone ever encounters a situation where a
firearm is needed. Having it come to your aid multiple times is disturbing. I think there's more to your story.
I stopped carrying in bear country, where I now bring bear spray, shown to be more effective from most information I've researched. I want the bear
to go away, not kill or wound it. YMMV.
John
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pacificobob
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i have had lots of guns starting at 12YO. never felt the need to "protect" myself with one. the story about some guy dying of cancer and shooting
people on his his lawn is tragic and sad.....far from an inspiring. please make an attempt to be careful of whom you chose to shoot.
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