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Bajaboy
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Quote: Originally posted by bike4mee  | If we drive up the road to guadalupe will there be
1. A place to camp
2. safe place to leave truck camper while we hike to cave paintings
3. Local guides to hire
4. Should we set this up before driving up the road
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Yes, there is a place to camp. I didn't lock my truck while down in the canyon for three days.
If you plan on going down into the canyon you need to set this up in advance. I'm happy to share my guide/friend's whatsapp number if want.
[Edited on 10-19-2021 by Bajaboy]
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"I made a smoked marlin pasta salad." wow - I'm impressed. Looks like the kids had the time of their lives. So enjoyed your photos.
I went with a group from Ensenada - we carpooled in one van - 10 of us! Anyway, we camped the evening before, and set up IN the road near one of the
ranchos. If you're just a small group, could probably camp on the rancho of your guide. When we finally came up from the canyon at the end of the
trip, an enterprising guy had a cooler of cold cervezas - $2 ea.
Is getting permit still done in the small INAH office in San Ignacio? You are assigned a guide. Then you go up the cerro into the village of San
Francisco, and check in. Your guide will be contacted and you can make arrangements with him at that time. The guide needs to see how much gear you
have in order to know how many mules he needs. If you want to hike instead of ride, you still need mules for gear and one for evacuation purposes.
Depending on how long the preparations take, you might be heading into the canyon the next day.
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David K
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In 2019, permits and getting guides was all taken care of at the Hostel Buenaventura, 1 km. before the village of San Francisco. There is a 2-way
radio that connects to the homes and ranchos in the area. Guides serve on rotation so money is evenly distributed, we were told.
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can you stay at the Hostel Buenaventura?
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Bajaboy
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It was closed I believe due to Covid. Normally we stay there the night prior and have Yadira make up fried chicken in a disca...fantastic!
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | In 2019, permits and getting guides was all taken care of at the Hostel Buenaventura, 1 km. before the village of San Francisco. There is a 2-way
radio that connects to the homes and ranchos in the area. Guides serve on rotation so money is evenly distributed, we were told.
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That is how they handle guides to Cueva Raton. If you want to go into the canyon, you can pick your lead guide but the assistant guides are done on
rotation as well.
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David K
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | In 2019, permits and getting guides was all taken care of at the Hostel Buenaventura, 1 km. before the village of San Francisco. There is a 2-way
radio that connects to the homes and ranchos in the area. Guides serve on rotation so money is evenly distributed, we were told.
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That is how they handle guides to Cueva Raton. If you want to go into the canyon, you can pick your lead guide but the assistant guides are done on
rotation as well. |
Where do you get the permits, then? The guide at his ranch sells them (like for San Borjitas)?
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Here is their contact info:
The website url is dead.
Here is other info. Note that Hostel is spelled Hostal...
https://www.sierradesanfrancisco.inah.gob.mx/hospedaje.php
https://mapcarta.com/HOSTAL_BUENAVENTURA_3196024
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Trudi Angel (Saddling South muleback tours) just posted photos from San Francisco de la Sierra on her Facebook page:
"A fantastic first-trip-of-the-season, with incredible views and beautiful people, as always. More pics and maybe a video coming soon!"
https://www.facebook.com/saddling.south.7
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | In 2019, permits and getting guides was all taken care of at the Hostel Buenaventura, 1 km. before the village of San Francisco. There is a 2-way
radio that connects to the homes and ranchos in the area. Guides serve on rotation so money is evenly distributed, we were told.
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That is how they handle guides to Cueva Raton. If you want to go into the canyon, you can pick your lead guide but the assistant guides are done on
rotation as well. |
Where do you get the permits, then? The guide at his ranch sells them (like for San Borjitas)? |
Yes, you get the permits at the hostel/restaurant at St. Teresa. Chico and Yadira live there. I have hired Chico three times now and would recommend
him. He can be contacted via Whatsapp at 52 615 103 3490
They now have wifi via repeaters as well and I noticed a power line going up to one of the hills.
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Thanks Zac... Any new website to replace the one that is offline? www.sierrasanfrancisco.com or www.sierrasanfrancisco.com.mx do not work.
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Bajaboy
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It's a big metal pan that they use to fry food in...think of an oversized wok. Yadira fries the chicken for a long time over mesquite in the
disca....fantastico!
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy | | Quote: Originally posted by David K | | In 2019, permits and getting guides was all taken care of at the Hostel Buenaventura, 1 km. before the village of San Francisco. There is a 2-way
radio that connects to the homes and ranchos in the area. Guides serve on rotation so money is evenly distributed, we were told.
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That is how they handle guides to Cueva Raton. If you want to go into the canyon, you can pick your lead guide but the assistant guides are done on
rotation as well. |
Where do you get the permits, then? The guide at his ranch sells them (like for San Borjitas)? |
Yes, you get the permits at the hostel/restaurant at St. Teresa. Chico and Yadira live there. I have hired Chico three times now and would recommend
him. He can be contacted via Whatsapp at 52 615 103 3490
They now have wifi via repeaters as well and I noticed a power line going up to one of the hills. |
Chico IS the man! 
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy |
It's a big metal pan that they use to fry food in...think of an oversized wok. Yadira fries the chicken for a long time over mesquite in the
disca....fantastico!
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That chicken was delish! I will say that the whole time I watched her work the coals and adjust the temperature I was wondering how the carnitas out
of that disca would taste. 
Next time!
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I was happy to work with Trudi coordinating with the ranchers earlier this year and financing purchase of feed for a few months when the ranchers were
having trouble keeping their cattle alive due to lack of feed. The lack of rain caused a bad situation for them. Thankfully the rain came and got
things back on track. Several others helped out also. Well worth keeping their traditional lifestyle going.
[Edited on 10-21-2021 by LancairDriver]
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: Originally posted by elgatoloco | | Quote: Originally posted by Bajaboy |
It's a big metal pan that they use to fry food in...think of an oversized wok. Yadira fries the chicken for a long time over mesquite in the
disca....fantastico!
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That chicken was delish! I will say that the whole time I watched her work the coals and adjust the temperature I was wondering how the carnitas out
of that disca would taste.
Next time! |
We asked Chico and Angel, our guides, their favorite way to eat goat. They both said "disca". Time for me to try some. When you coming down?
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| Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver |
I was happy to work with Trudi coordinating with the ranchers earlier this year and financing purchase of feed for a few months when the ranchers were
having trouble keeping their cattle alive due to lack of feed. The lack of rain caused a bad situation for them. Thankfully the rain came and got
things back on track. Several others helped out also. Well worth keeping their traditional lifestyle going.
[Edited on 10-21-2021 by LancairDriver] |
Very cool... I spoke with her over the phone a few years ago when she was visiting with our very own Nomad mule-lady, Baja Bucko (Teddi). I also know
of the situation at Rancho San Francisco and Santa Marta (Martha) during the 'Covid killing' of tourism that many were assisting with. Andy Schouten
of https://www.makeacommitment.org/ was also helping bring food donations to the mountain people of Baja.
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mule trip
My wife and I made the trip three years ago with Trudy and Saddling South (which I strongly recommend) as we live in Loreto. The most amazing trip of
my life which I won't do again...
The guides were totally amazing, the food fabulous but it was 90 and the small mexican saddles with stirrups that didn't fit my long legs made it
tough. That said a truly cosmic experience, my wife would go every week if she could.
I encourage everyone who can see this, it's a lifetime experience! The hows,
whys, and whens of these paintings will boggle your mind. Some of the pics might look a little like aliens.....
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Hostel Buenaventura - now on My List. Thanks for the info.
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Bajaboy
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One of our son's school assignments was to write about his trip to Sierra San Francisco. He just finished and posted it. Let me know what you
think....I'm pretty impressed...he's 13.
http://bajaboyadventures.blogspot.com/2021/10/a-trip-to-sier...
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