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Mark & Olivia; Playa Buenaventura

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Woooosh - 3-24-2012 at 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I have no comment on what Munoz posted, but when it comes to Fulano and his Photoshopping skills, and the wild things he makes up often out of thin air.

I wouldn't believe Fulano if he said the sky is blue and he had a picture of a blue sky. The insane nut just doesn't have any credibility with me, and I know many Nomad members feel the same as I do.

Now it may be the sky is really blue, but since Fulano spins, tells half-truths, and flat out lies about other "Nomad" members. How can you even trust this dubious source from a hate forum he runs like a cult leader, and even has cult followers. ( It's a tiny cult of maybe 5 or 6 guys)

I'm sorry but Fulano is not a credible source, and anything the nut puts out shouldn't be taken seriously, but I think most Nomad members already know that.

Fulano just is not a credible source and you should have always have a real reliable credible source to turn to instead of Fulano and his anti-Mexico agenda.

Now this is an interesting predicament, isn't it? Many on this thread have openly demonized both Raphael and Fulano and trust neither the words or documents they post. It'll be interesting who among the haters and cluckers flip-flops first after the investigation Fulano did. Will Joe believe it? Will the cluckers embrace it?. If they were to be consistent, they would say Fulano's expose carries no more weight than Raphael's posted Land titles. But I hear the clucks already...

XPBres was apparently just squatting on the national land, but she didn't know it. Had she been a Mexican and knew she was squatting, she could have applied for a "prescripcion positiva" and been the land owner- instead of a ripped-off renter. If it had converted to Federal Zone back then, she could have had the concession. She could have been driving the bus instead of having been thrown under it.

Mexican real estate... the onlyway to win, is not to play.

Why do people read re-posts of what Fulano has posted when they can just go to his site and see the originals. His site has more viewers than this one now. ???

[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]

Woooosh - 3-24-2012 at 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch
Could you come up with something more original than "cluckers"?
Seriously, how well did you know the blowhard who came up with that?
You're going to align yourself with those of the bi-polar set.

A serious bummer for those that lost out. Hard to manage from a distance and a cultural divide.

I'm a big fan of renting and, until, I live full-time in Mexico for a number of years will I even contemplate putting in more than I can walk from.

don't forget the integrity divide...

Burbs - 3-24-2012 at 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by XPBRes
Entertaining you say, I agree this is a fascinating story. You on this board have as much or more information than we ever had. I would hope all of you could see the dilemma a few Americans had. We fell in love with a beautiful location. It was to be a new beginning to our future dreams.

Mike was a great salesman and all of us believed in him and his good work ethic. We had 10 years without a thought that it was going to be anything but a great place to live out our lives. It was said that Mike is dead, I don't think so, I have heard that he has a place in Guaymas-San Carlos.

As much as I don't think Mark has been wrong about some of his statements: should have stayed, stuck it out and fought back. When we started Mike had a small house, restaurant and a few palapas. The renters made that beach without Mark. We stuck it out for 15 years, he hasn't been there that long yet and comes across as a squatter and nothing more.

Now I ask you nomads knowing all you do could you have made a decision about this that would have given you a good outcome. If we had stayed and fought we would have Munoz beating down our door. We stop paying Olivia and she sues us for breaking a lease. It took us over a year to make decision; maybe it was a wrong one if you believe Mark.

From what I just read on these last pages it shows that neither one of them had a right to make a lease or allow us to build. I am just as confused and sad as I was 10 years ago.

My only goal here was to share with nomads that it’s not that easy to figure this stuff out. Most of us make choices based on experience and not emotion. I think that in this case we fell in love with a location and trusted people that may not have had our best interest.

Mark can continue to bash me I will never stop sharing my thoughts and knowledge about this.

Ted, sure do not intend to bash you. But quit whining and do something.
Come on back. You can have your house.

Woooosh - 3-24-2012 at 06:47 PM

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don't forget the integrity divide...

Is cluckers a clique of some kind? I just though it rhymed with a word you can't post?
:saint:

Woooosh - 3-24-2012 at 08:54 PM

please post the quote in the linked document that says Mark and Olivia are the rightful owners, as you claimed. :saint:

[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]

Woooosh - 3-25-2012 at 10:34 AM

Those are just local newspaper articles. Where in the LEGAL document fulano and you posted does it say Mark and Olivia actually own anything there? They charged people rent, they evicted people from their home, they took over the nicest house and posted it on FaceBook as their "new house". But where does it say they owned anything that gave them that right? It doesn't.

Your assertion that people should shun a lawyer for taking unpopular cases and radical legal strategies would mean Johnnie Cochran should be shunned, apologetic and never have another client after getting OJ off for murder.

Cool your jets for now Gnukid and wait for Cypress' psychic wife to tell us when the end to this will come. It won't be soon. Get Mark and Olivia to heal XPBres first by giving them back their house they have no right to. (And that IS in the legal document). Not all Nomads are good or trustworthy just because they joined this message board.

[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]

ELINVESTIG8R - 3-25-2012 at 10:45 AM

Rafael Muñoz Martinez'

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Originally posted by gnukid

Now back to our own community, we have some issues, there remains the question of what is Whoosh's (Craig) and Elvinstr8's (David) roll in this with Rafael and within our community. Are they part of the con? They have been heavily invested in affecting our opinion, intimidation and have added to the confusion and reduced our sense of stability. They can deal with their personal issues whether it is with Rafael or Olivia or any BCS officials who may be investigating their role, however, as part of a healing process for our community, they do owe everyone an apology and an explanation.

Furthermore, over this thread it does appear to me, the casual reader, that Munoz has conspired to mislead the community here on a number of issues, respective to the articles above in order to intimidate others from visiting the Play Buenaventura location and that he conspired with Whoosh (Craig) and Elvinstr8 (David) among others. The result has been a destabilization of social and economic security for residents, the true land owner and our community. They should both apologize to this community and to the residents of Mulege, the state of Baja California Sur and especially Olivia

Kid,

As usual, you definitely are a misinformed pinhead. You falsely accuse me of having entered into a conspiracy with Rafael Muñoz Martinez. When you say conspiracy in the vane you say it here, this denotes criminal activity! I will let Whoooosh and others defend themselves as I know they can, and besides, I do not want to put words into their mouths.

There never was an agreement between Rafael and me to commit a crime. I said that I supported the documents he provided as proof he owned Playa Buenaventura as they all pointed to him as being the owner.

I asked Mark and Olivia to post official paperwork so we could see that what they say is true and correct as Rafael has done. I said that I would like to believe they are good people as people here say they are and that I wanted to believe it because when I look at their pictures and see their smiles they look like good people. I truly wanted to believe they are good people.

I then asked, if Rafael’s documentary evidence was falsified, and if so, how? I asked if anyone could debunk them to determine who is not telling the truth. I opined that outside governmental investigative agencies from Mexico City needed to intervene to conduct an unbiased investigation to determine the truth. I said it did not take a rocket scientist to see that someone is not telling the truth.

I said that based on the preponderance of documentary evidence provided by Rafael on this forum and until proven to be fabricated I must stand with him regarding his documentation.

I said that if Rafael was later deemed not to have ownership of property at Playa Buenaventura I will humbly ask for forgiveness publicly in this forum from the rightful owner(s). Well, as we found out it did not take outside governmental investigative agency to debunk Rafael’s documents.

It was Fulano who debunked them with his outstanding on-line investigative expertise.

Below, is what he uncovered:

http://www.sra.gob.mx/sraweb/datastore/transparencia/resoluciones/Resolucion_CI_0001500003509_RR_978_09.pdf

When Fulano uncovered the truth that Rafael was in fact not the owner I withdrew my support of his documents. I even posted the outcome of Fulano’s investigation on this thread.

For you to call me a criminal goes beyond the pale. Stick to your U.S. Government 911 conspiracy you nincompoop!

Once the true owners are determined as they have yet to be, I will apologize to them as promised.

I believe I have taken down all of my writings and gifs supporting Rafael Muñoz Martinez' documents. If not, please let me know so I can. Also, if you quoted me with something I said in support of Rafael's documents and/or did a gif to indicate the same, please delete it for me. Thank you.

Cypress - 3-25-2012 at 10:56 AM

Wooosh, What? You're the self-appointed arbitrator of Baja property disputes? All because you don't want your ocean view spoiled. Pretty transparent. Doesn't take a psychic to see thru that one. My gut feeling, not a psychic, is you're backing a loser. You probably haven't ever been down to Buenaventura or met Mark and Olivia, but that's OK. You're entitled to your opinion. Just wonder what you're basing it on. :biggrin:

Woooosh - 3-25-2012 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Cypress
Wooosh, What? You're the self-appointed arbitrator of Baja property disputes? All because you don't want your ocean view spoiled. Pretty transparent. Doesn't take a psychic to see thru that one. My gut feeling, not a psychic, is you're backing a loser. You probably haven't ever been down to Buenaventura or met Mark and Olivia, but that's OK. You're entitled to your opinion. Just wonder what you're basing it on. :biggrin:

I'm just going to go back waiting for the dust to settle.

Why you demonize an ocean view? You'd have to be an idiot to let someone illegally seize land and build a condo tower in the Federal Zone in front of you. Living in baja is all about the 24/7/365 connection to the ocean- not living in the shadow of a tower. I'm a conservationist of the beach for the people without apology. I am also unapologetic for keeping USA investors from buying that property when it was illegally offered for sale as having a legal land title.

Cypress - 3-25-2012 at 11:20 AM

So now I'm demonizing ocean views? :biggrin:

No. But if you don't want your view, be it ocean, lake, mountain or anything else obstructed, you better own the property. And not attempt to dictate to the owners what they can do with "their" property. :yes:

Woooosh - 3-25-2012 at 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
So now I'm demonizing ocean views? :biggrin:

or in the case of M&O, don't claim what is not yours and then charge rent and seize it for non-payment of same, right?

In our case we are only defending a current, legal and valid Federal Zone Concession. If you don't want the battle, don't squat on an existing concession and try to sell it and create fraudulent documents for it like our Nomad "Angel" did with her 3 year "Prescipcion Positiva" when it takes a minimum of 5. Raphael and his team have been instrumental in our legal defense of the concession and his thread "Baja Real Estate Advice" details the nature and full scope of our business partnership with him.

Cypress - 3-25-2012 at 03:02 PM

Wooooosh, You dum dum dudes are relentless.

JoeJustJoe - 3-25-2012 at 03:14 PM

Woooosh do you really want to start up your legal case against Ms Ortiz and try the legal case in front of "Nomad" jurors?

OK I'm game if that's what you really want to do. To tell your the truth I have better things to do, but if you start up. I'll be there as an investigative reporter of course, or poser lawyer this time.

Like I said before I question Woooosh's objectivity and I question his sanity when he said somewhere above that Fulano's hate forum gets more views that "Baja Nomad!" That's something only a Fulano cult follower would believe. Woooosh why do you suppose the very popular Fulano hate forum with so many viewers only has about five active members who posts things on that site?

But back to Baja real estate. Here is Woooosh's quote telling us that Raphael offered Woooosh a brand new condo for free? Hey Woooosh I'll sell you or better yet..... I'll give you the Brooklyn bridge for free with no strings attached.

Woooosh is very naive and has a conflict of interest here. In Wooosh's case it's all about the beach front ocean view. He should just admit that.

The defense rests it's case:

From page 35 on this thread:
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Free hotel night from Raphael? You missed by a mile. He offered us a brand new condo building for free actually. Still may take him up on it if it works to our mutual advantage. I hate to see that building just sit there empty and deteriorate. (btw: Raphael saved US investors from a $5 Million real estate scam by presenting a legal, stamped SRA payment receipt for the land under that condo tower. The seller claimed a clear land title with title insurance. Raphael went toe to toe with Grupo Aries and they ran away and abandoned the building last July. So I'd say when Raphael is right, he is right in a big way. It was impressive to me because so few Mexicans would or have acted to protect US investors here in Rosarito Beach. None in fact, just him. )

[Edited on 3-25-2012 by JoeJustJoe]

Cypress - 3-25-2012 at 03:51 PM

Wooosh is defending his un-obstructed view of the Pacific Ocean.

Woooosh - 3-25-2012 at 04:19 PM

Yes, Cypress and JJJ it's true. And here's a legal point for you two. Mexicans who hold the title to oceanfront property have the legal right to a concession to protect their view. Their LEGAL right. They are first in line for it if they apply, and if they don't apply it's their own fault. We were proactive and applied when the first illegal condo tower went up out of three planned, surrounded by the ocean. If you guys have a problem with that- talk to the Mexican gov't. You gonna give up your right to bear arms in the USA? Didn't think so.

If you want to talk about MY specific case, you are on the wrong thread. Go to OFF TOPIC and I will engage your silliness. All the facts have already been covered on the Baja Real Estate Thread and there you contribute nothing to the legal questions being asked. You've clogged up both threads when neither of you seem to know the basic real estate laws of Mexico.

I started an OFF-TOPIC Thread: Woooosh vs JJJ et al: Baja Real Estate.

[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]

wessongroup - 3-25-2012 at 04:34 PM

Cool will check it out... now THIS should be fun .. :biggrin:

Cypress - 3-25-2012 at 04:43 PM

Wooosh, Off topic?

Is that where you want to take this? The basic real estate laws of Mexico? :biggrin:

Woooosh - 3-25-2012 at 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
Wooosh, Off topic?

Is that where you want to take this? The basic real estate laws of Mexico? :biggrin:

Many people posted this was not court or an appropriate place to post evidence. I don't agree, it's all educational and a hot topic. I'm willing to put all the evidence and innuendo out there and let the Off Topic dark side be the jury. You have to be "Over 18" to log on and that is also the password. No holding back over there and the underbelly of Baja Real Estate will indeed be exposed. Do you think Angel will continue to speak through the hole of JoeJustJoe?

:!:

JoeJustJoe - 3-26-2012 at 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Nobody is demonizing an ocean view. What a few of us want you to do is come clean and admit your real estate fight is all about YOUR precious ocean view.

You Woooosh tried to frame this is that you are the defender of Rosarito Beach beach for the Mexican handicap, the dogs, and for the Mexican people. This is hogwash. Woooosh you're like any other rich white American fighting a boring fight over an ocean view in a beach community along the California coast, except in your case. You're taking your battle to the Baja coast, and I doubt you're rich.

I don't even care if you defend Raphael your lawyer who is doing work for you, and possible business partner. I just want "Nomads" member to know that you have a possible conflict of interest here. It's all about transparency Woooosh.

Woooosh have fun in the "OT" area. I may or may not post in that thread you started. But whenever you attack Tila Ortiz in public and she isn't here to defend herself. You might hear from JoeJustJoe anywhere that attack occurs.

I understand your real estate fight is still in the courts, and even you Woooosh admitted in page 26 of the "Beenaventura" thread that "PROFEPA" is still investigating.

Woooosh - 3-26-2012 at 10:26 AM

I have cut and pasted the above post (and responded to it) in the OFF TOPIC forum.

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 10:31 AM

Burb
I just caught you telling a public lie to Nomads.
You just said that my title is false. But my title is legally no longer in doubt.

Why?? Because Olivia denounced me before the Federal Police, telling them that I falsified my title and I was using a false document; two different and heavy federal offenses; The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de la Reforma Agraria (SRA) and signed by the Mexico’s President; They asked the issuing authority for a copy and The SRA sent an official certified copy of my title and file to the Federal Police and then, at that point the Federal Police legally knew the Olivia’s accusations were false but following legal procedure, then they asked Olivia to provide any legal proof she may have to prove her claims, she was legally notified and she did not provide any but any legal proof, only her word; then the Federal Police dropped the charges against me as groundless and closed the file, sending notice to the Santa Rosalia Public Registry that my title was blameless and a valid one.

THIS MEAN, THAT THIS IS AN INVESTIGATED CAUSE, THAT OLIVIA ACCEPTED THE RULING AND DID NOTHING AND AS A LEGAL CONSEQUENCE, IT IS A JUDGED FACT, IN OTHER WORDS, A LEGAL TRUE SAYING THAT MY TITLE IS ORIGINAL, ISSUED BY THE PROPER AUTHORITY AND HAS FULL LEGAL POWER AGAINST OLIVIA. :light:

Here, I just demonstrated that Burbs, alias Nark or Mark Jerome Burbey is a public liar trying to confuse public opinion named Nomads.
Case closed. :yes:

As always, I provide the legal proof of my writings.

I wonder why nobody ask the same to Nark alias Burby or Olivia Alias La Vaquera

David K - 3-26-2012 at 10:35 AM

Does the president of your country always sign property documents? How does he have time to run Mexico if he must sign all legal documents?

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 10:47 AM

Burb
I just caught you telling a public lie to Nomads.
You just said that my title is false. But my title is legally no longer in doubt.

Why?? Because Olivia denounced me before the Federal Police, telling them that I falsified my title and I was using a false document; two different and heavy federal offenses; The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de la Reforma Agraria (SRA) and signed by the Mexico’s President; They asked the issuing authority for a copy and The SRA sent an official certified copy of my title and file to the Federal Police and then, at that point the Federal Police legally knew the Olivia’s accusations were false but following legal procedure, then they asked Olivia to provide any legal proof she may have to prove her claims, she was legally notified and she did not provide any but any legal proof, only her word; then the Federal Police dropped the charges against me as groundless and closed the file, sending notice to the Santa Rosalia Public Registry that my title was blameless and a valid one.

THIS MEAN, THAT THIS IS AN INVESTIGATED CAUSE, THAT OLIVIA ACCEPTED THE RULING AND DID NOTHING AND AS A LEGAL CONSEQUENCE, IT IS A JUDGED FACT, IN OTHER WORDS, A LEGAL TRUE SAYING THAT MY TITLE IS ORIGINAL, ISSUED BY THE PROPER AUTHORITY AND HAS FULL LEGAL POWER AGAINST OLIVIA.

Here, I just demonstrated that Burbs, alias Nark or Mark Jerome Burbey is a public liar trying to confuse public opinion named Nomads.
Case closed.

Also, I wonder, why nobldy ask Nark or Olivia for any kind of proof and just give their word a true status??? :?:

[Edited on 3-26-2012 by ramuma53]

David K - 3-26-2012 at 10:49 AM

You are repeating yourself.

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 10:57 AM

David K
You question naive facts, but I can answer them anyway.

Mexico's President in fact does not sign the titles, but he authorize the SRA State Secretary to sign them in his name and that is the signature you find on my title, but it is the Mexico's Presidentr signature and authorization as required by law.

David K - 3-26-2012 at 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by ramuma53
David K
You question naive facts, but I can answer them anyway.

Mexico's President in fact does not sign the titles, but he authorize the SRA State Secretary to sign them in his name and that is the signature you find on my title, but it is the Mexico's Presidentr signature and authorization as required by law.

What you said:
"The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de la Reforma Agraria (SRA) and signed by the Mexico’s President;"

Now you are saying, a few minues later:
"Mexico's President in fact does not sign the titles..."

Thanks for the clarification... as I am sure the president of Mexico has a lot on his mind and helping you put Mark & Olivia out of business is not one of his tasks.

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 11:15 AM

David K
As a La Vaquera and Nark advocate you are doing a poor job, because you are not being objective and your intention is showing clearly, because this is not a futile exercise, it is to educate people about what can happen in Mexico, What to expect when you own Real Estate in Mexico and how to solve those problems if in fact you decide to buy Real Estate in Mexico.

This thread is not to decide who win, it is to show the process and how to differentiate crooks from good intentioned people and also how to dedifferentiate crooks advocates intentions from legal facts.

mtgoat666 - 3-26-2012 at 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ramuma53
Burb
I just caught you telling a public lie to Nomads.
You just said that my title is false. But my title is legally no longer in doubt.

Why?? Because Olivia denounced me before the Federal Police, telling them that I falsified my title and I was using a false document; two different and heavy federal offenses; The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de la Reforma Agraria (SRA) and signed by the Mexico’s President; They asked the issuing authority for a copy and The SRA sent an official certified copy of my title and file to the Federal Police and then, at that point the Federal Police legally knew the Olivia’s accusations were false but following legal procedure, then they asked Olivia to provide any legal proof she may have to prove her claims, she was legally notified and she did not provide any but any legal proof, only her word; then the Federal Police dropped the charges against me as groundless and closed the file, sending notice to the Santa Rosalia Public Registry that my title was blameless and a valid one.

THIS MEAN, THAT THIS IS AN INVESTIGATED CAUSE, THAT OLIVIA ACCEPTED THE RULING AND DID NOTHING AND AS A LEGAL CONSEQUENCE, IT IS A JUDGED FACT, IN OTHER WORDS, A LEGAL TRUE SAYING THAT MY TITLE IS ORIGINAL, ISSUED BY THE PROPER AUTHORITY AND HAS FULL LEGAL POWER AGAINST OLIVIA.

Here, I just demonstrated that Burbs, alias Nark or Mark Jerome Burbey is a public liar trying to confuse public opinion named Nomads.
Case closed.

you proved NOTHING!
i don't believe anything you post! your history of grandiose belligerence and your history of telling lies destroyed your integrity! no one believes you! (well, woooosh believes you,... but only because you are involved in his own real estate mess)
i think only cowards use to guns to settle disputes!

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 01:15 PM

Si se puede explicar esa carta en BajaNomads
Ese es un juicio que se ventilo ante el IFAI en la cual la SRA negó la información de mi expediente, pero al termino de ese juicio, el IFAI obligo a la SRA a entregar copia certificada de mi expediente, terminado con el asunto de falsedad.

Por lo anterior la PGR archivo en definitiva la averiguación previa en mi contra.

Pueden seguir buscando formas de mal informar a Nomads, pero recuerden que yo tengo la razón y por lo tanto siempre los podre rebatir, asi que no tienen esperanza de robar el terreno, solo están perdiendo su dinero en corrupción, pero la corrupción se combate legalmente y por eso han perdido todo.

Creen que ganaron algo con recibir las 3 casas de manera irregular? Están equivocados y es solo cuestión de un juicio de nulidad del acta que les entrego, asi que disfruten del poco tiempo que les dio esta aberración jurídica.

De: Tio Foncho [mailto:tiofoncho4u@gmail.com]
Enviado el: lunes, 26 de marzo de 2012 01:24 p.m.
Para: director@munoz-industries.com
Asunto: Playa Buenaventura

¿Por qué no se puede explicar esta carta en BajaNomads?

http://www.sra.gob.mx/sraweb/datastore/transparencia/resoluc...

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 01:26 PM

mtgoat666

That is your main problem, you use no reason and see no proof where everybody can, but most Nomads do and you are very well identified as a no reason Nark and La Vaquera advocate and that mean narcs advocate, turtle killers advocate, liars advocate.
My friend, to be able to convince somebody you need to show proof and documents as I do, I do not ask Nomads to be believed as a faith act, I show legal proof while your advocacy does not show anything, only commission advocates to try to discredit legal documents with words, but words will never convince anybody while documents show legal proof and can be verified by anybody who care.

Why don’t you ask Nark (Mark Jerome Burbey or Burby now) or La Vaquera (Maria Olivia Higuera Aguiilar) to show any but any document that show them as property owners; ask them to show the document they used to convince the Estate District Attorney that they own a piece of land.

They can’t, they own nothing and the only cause the District Attorney did what he did is by breaking the law in benefit of an organized crime member.

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 01:28 PM

Like this

[Edited on 3-26-2012 by ramuma53]

ramuma53 - 3-26-2012 at 09:50 PM

Concerning Wooosh
I have to deny that I am in business with him, but I would have no objections in doing it, because he is a honest person having some legal problems very similar to the ones I am having and of course we consult each other about our similar problems and how to face them, but no we are not in business together.

Woooosh - 3-26-2012 at 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by ramuma53
Concerning Wooosh
I have to deny that I am in business with him, but I would have no objections in doing it, because he is a honest person having some legal problems very similar to the ones I am having and of course we consult each other about our similar problems and how to face them, but no we are not in business together.

I have never had to hire Raphael, we have mutual interests in Rosarito and our relationship is exactly as he states. I consider him a partner in the Rancho La Costa Azul project in Rosarito because we share mutual goals and are working together to achieve them.

On his "Baja Real Estate Advice" thread, Raphael suggested his Federal Zone Expert, Eng. Daniel Martinez Chavira- might be interested in defending our Federal Zone concession from a challenge by an aggressive squatter. By co-incidence he had created the concession map for us in 2005. I had also met him two summers ago when he was surveying by my house for the Projecto Norte (Rosarito Malecon). We hired him over a year ago.

Raphael and Nomads have stopped $5.6 Million USD in Rosarito Beach real estate fraud specifically targeting US/Canadian investors. Those were direct challenges to claims of clear land titles, title insurance or escrituas- when none existed. No one stopped investors from losing $30 Million at Trump Baja, or anywhere else that I know of. It is Raphaels willingness to teach us what the Mexican real estate laws are and what a real Mexican land title looks like. He is the only one doing this in English, for free, and right here on this board. I have seen him answer dozens of Nomads legal questions about specific projects- never saying he has the ultimate answer, only that his insight might be helpful for investors to determine the risk.

More important to me is the legitimate owner of the Rosarito coastline, Rancho La Costa Azul supports the Rosarito Malecon project and my beach preservation and access efforts. In my Federal Zone dispute, Ranch La Costa Azul provided me with the document to prove if any private property still existed around our concession, it was land they had already paid for in 1993 and had the SRA receipt and stamped map for. We presented those documents to PROFEPA and ZOFEMAT in the defense of our concession. In Nov/2011 PROFEPA decided to sidestep the Rancho La Costa Azul claim and simply declare all the area west of the street either Federal or Marine Zone. We were offered the ability to lease as much land from Rancho La Costa Azul as we needed for our project until the Malecon goes in, for free. It is a generous offer by Raphael's team and we are still evaluating it. That's the Raphael I know, and we work well together- but not for each other.

[Edited on 3-27-2012 by Woooosh]

chuckie - 3-27-2012 at 06:52 AM

I talked to Olivia a couple of days ago at the grocery store. I didnt ask her for her papers, tho....none of my business. I guess if she wanted to plaster them all over this site, she most likely would. No decision is going to be made here. Most likely when and if any decision IS made, none of us will even know about it...

JoeJustJoe - 3-27-2012 at 07:45 AM

On page 26 on this thread. Woooosh says he received a letter from the Director General of PROFEPA, and they are still investigating. Ms Ortiz has legally challenged Wooosh's "concession." Ms Ortiz has charged that Wooosh and Alonzo fraudulently obtained their beach "concession.

Wooosh from this post seems upset, and blames some type of so-called " "Viva la Mexico" attitude for his setbacks and Woooosh continues in many threads to bash the Mexican culture, and claims 'all" Mexicans have some type of "passive-aggressive attitude. Woooosh has even accused Ms Oritz, and myself JoeJustJoe with this same passive-aggressive attitude! I wonder if Woooosh believes that Raphael has this same passive-aggressive culture and inbred attitude?

Of course at the end of this rant Woooosh wrote below. He wants us to believe his land battle is ONLY to protect beach access for the disabled in Rosarito.

Yeah right!
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Woooosh from page 26 from this thread:

Yes Wiley, my negative outlook is based only on my personal experience with the "system" the past four years. I got another letter from the Director General of PROFEPA yesterday- same chit... they are still investigating. Investigating what exactly? We have a legal and valid concession to protect the beach, yet a squatter with a "prescription positiva" has fenced half of it and declared it her private property with the support of all her friends in local law enforcement. Why and how would I believe the system is better for anyone else after what we have experienced the past four years.

The biggest problem I have is all these authorities (PROFEPA, ZOFEMAT, SEMARNAT, PGJE) have a "Viva la Mexico" attitude but none of them respect a valid land title being held by a Mexican citizen enough to protect and defend it. Who protects the legal rights of the good people in the right?

I believe Mexican authorities are tentative to act- because they don't want to step on the toes of anyone trying to help "a friend" who has more power than they do. They all claim to love Mexico, but won't protect it from theft.

No one could have documented a case better than we have- with letters, photos and even videos viewed by over 5000 people. Yes we may win in the end- but this battle has changed my opinion of Mexico. In the USA I never had a court official lie to my face or suggest a bribe. It happened her in Rosarito Beach though. Even the ZOFEMAT office suggested I pay some money to "move things along". Our family does not pay and we find it repulsive- because it prevents Mexico from progressing.

Luckily our land battle is only to protect beach access for the disabled in Rosarito. We aren't fighting for land under our house or anything like that which this thread is about. We just wanted to do something nice for the community- and the underbelly of Mexican power and their shenanigans came to our doorstep- we did not go looking for it. No good deed goes unpunished. The only way to win is not to play. After four years of fighting- even if we win- we will have lost the respect we had for Mexican systems going into this. jmho.

ramuma53 - 3-27-2012 at 08:47 AM

JoeJustJoe
Wooosh has similar problems with corruption, but we are talking about two of the most corrupt estates in Mexico, Baja North and South Baja; it not an all Mexico generalization.

To denounce corruption in Mexico is not against Mexico, it is an act to try to correct corruption in Mexico; corruption need anonymity and silence; it disappear when corruption acts are denounced and people are aware of it.

I am Mexican, I am not American, but my family is American, so we have to live in both worlds and try to make the best of them, my businesses are in Mexico so I have to work in Mexico and correct Mexico’s problems, but my customers are Americans and they need a secure place to spend their golden years; we are in relationship we cannot change, we are neighbors and we need to live with each other and work with each other.
You may say, I do not care about Mexico, I would not go to Mexico or buy Real Estate in Mexico, but then why are you here reading this?

We of course sometimes desperate, because instead of getting better, it seems that it is going worst; I was trying to protect the turtles by denouncing a turtle killer and seller and I got authority aggression and constitutional rights violations; of course the system does not want to change, but the turtles will disappear if we don’t stop selling the turtles a s soup.

Our attitude is not passive aggressive, it is active and that is what causes us problems with authority who want the status quo to just continue to profit from selling turtle soup; it is not only Nark or La Vaquera business; they get illegal money and give it to public officials for protection and they create and or maintain a corrupt system, but that system con not prosper and grow to infinity, because it create chaos, insecurity and extinction for protected species.
The system as it is cannot go forever as the Chicago USA situation was not able to grow and continue forever; somebody had to stop it and that is Mexico’s case now; the question is who want to do it???????????? Well I am trying and Wooosh certainly is trying.

You do not believe that Woooosh is doing it just to protect the beach?? Why not, there we have a building invading not only the beach but now it is in the ocean and that is illegal, breaking the beach continuity; nobody else is complaining and he is doing it; why do you attack him and not the building invading the beach????? Why do you attack me instead of the guys cooking the sea turtles and selling them as soup??????????????

You know drugs are killing our young and making trash out of them; why do you support the ones in the drug business?????????????

ramuma53 - 3-27-2012 at 09:14 AM

Chukie
You certainly sound like Eduardo Villa Arellano, but your English is better.
Olivia Higuera Aguilar alias La Vaquera, does not plaster her property papers all over the place because she has none.
It is clear here that she only has a rent contract with the Ejido La Purisima and as unavoidable consequence, her rented land must be inside Ejido La Purisima and since it has been proved that Ejido La Purisima is not overlapped with my land, it is a legal true that her rented land is not inside my property but that simple fact does not stop her from wanting to steal my property.
The fact that she has a restaurant named El Sargazo in Buenmaventura beach does not make her the owner, she has that restaurant inside Federal Zone, that is not my property but Federal property and having a Federal Zone Concession does not make her the land owner, she is in fact only renting to the Federal Government; she is only a renter of places, she own nothing and has no property papers at all.

You may say it does not concern you or that you will never know who win, but I tell you that it concern you because you live in Baja and what happen to one can happen to anyone in Baja and nobody would want to have an Olivia and Nark couple as neighbors trying to steal your property without any right. Then it may help you to know how to deal with that kind of problem in Baja, because as you see here, it is not at all uncommon.

You will certainly know here, because we are making the whole problem public so other know how the Mexican authority sometimes help crooks to steal Real Estate in Baja, just to maintain the illegal trade, protected species and drugs.
Some may say, well I learned that I should not oppose criminals, but you will learn here that if you act, you will prevail and certainly you can prevail in Mexico with the law on your side and that is what we are showing here.

This is a not yet finished story, because we are making the story today and we only think we can achieve a legal result or it may happen that the dark side prevails, but I am willing to bet that I will prevail because I have the legality on my side.

XPBRes - 3-27-2012 at 07:06 PM

Sr. Munoz is it true that one of the documents that you have posted claims;

That it is a letter from a judge in the Agrarian Court to a judge in a Federal Court. The letter is dated April 21, 2010 and the Agrarian Court judge is telling the Federal Court judge that he should dismiss Olivia's case for possession of the home owned by Ted and Cheryle Clinite because she does not have any legal interest in it.

If this is true could you please tell me what the outcome of that letter is.

Mark has told us that he does not want the house and that we should come back and occupy it.

[Edited on 3-28-2012 by XPBRes]

chuckie - 3-27-2012 at 07:49 PM

Ramuma, I never see you in the grocery store, or I would treat you the same way....How often do you get into Sauls?......

Woooosh - 3-27-2012 at 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by XPBRes
Sr. Munoz is it true that one of the documents that you have posted claims;

That it is a letter from a judge in the Agrarian Court to a judge in a Federal Court. The letter is dated April 21, 2010 and the Agrarian Court judge is telling the Federal Court judge that he should dismiss Olivia's case for possession of the home owned by Ted and Cheryle Clinite because she does not have any legal interest in it.

If this is true could you please tell me what the outcome of that letter is.

Mark has told told us that he does not want the house and that we should come back and occupy it.

Wouldn't that be a great ending?! You were the one who said this thread provided you more information that you had in ten years of actually living it. I think the document confirmed the Ejido boundary is no longer in dispute. The Ejido maps/docs and Raphael's SRA map used the same points from what I saw. It's never that simple though, there will be a few more legal steps. It is very generous of Mark to offer this to you before the litigious dust settles. That's very rare anywhere, let alone down here.
:yes:

roundtuit - 3-27-2012 at 09:31 PM

Chuckie, I have never seen him at his Motel greeting any tourist to his fine lodging either. Must be a figment of my imagination May be he goes to El Candiles incognito for the Thursday French Dip special and a draft beer :lol:

ramuma53 - 3-27-2012 at 09:42 PM

XPBRes

No, what the official letter say as I provided the copy is that the Federal Court should dismiss my claim for Federal law protection against the Agrarian Magistrate, because he has no intention to take my possession away and my title is a valid and legal title.

Then if the Agrarian Magistrate gave the possession to Olivia of any of my houses or any property inside my land lot, he would have been lying to the Federal Judge, something that would land him in jail at once under a heavy federal offense.

That mean, the Agrarian Magistrate under no circumstances would order my possession taken away from me, to give to Olivia or any person and the opposite would be a federal offense committed by the agrarian Judge.

Then as a forced legal consequence, Olivia did not receive any of my houses from the Agrarian Magistrate; she may have received something outside my property but never inside.

ramuma53 - 3-27-2012 at 09:46 PM

chuckie
I was there this past December 2011 and also at the Major office, paying my taxes; maybe not very often at the grocery store, but very often at Los Equipales Restaurant.

ramuma53 - 3-27-2012 at 09:49 PM

roundtuit
The fact that you do not see me at my hotel does not mean that I am not there, but that you do not go very often to my hotel. :lol:

ramuma53 - 3-27-2012 at 10:02 PM

Wooosh
You are very right, the paper say that the Ejido boundary is not overlapped with my land and to corroborate that, I have another document, where the Ejido itself sign and stamp its seal on the approval for my lot measurement.

Then as a legal consequence, I have no quarrel with the Ejido La Purisima, something that they themselves accepted when they dropped their sue against me.

Also if I have no legal limits problems with the Ejido La Purisima and if Olivia has a rent contract with the Ejido La Purisima, any land the Ejido rent to her, must be outside my land lot and she is wrong here trying to apropiate part of my property against any legal reason.

What really happen is that Olivia is trying to confuse authority in to thinking she owns part of my property and lately even my hotel by saying that my property is inside the Ejido La Purisima and that what she rented from the Ejido is part of my property; something that every agrarian authority deny.

She is also trying to say that my title is false, but she know for certain that it is a legal and valid one, because she accused me to the Federal Police, the Federal Police investigated and then asked her to provide any proof that my title is false and she failed to provide them and the case was closed definitively and I cannot be prosecuted again for the same cause. For her, my title is legal and valid and she cannot claim any other way. :tumble:

The fact that the Este District Attorney ignored all this facts, only tell the corruption created by Olivia and Nark created by money coming from drug trafficking and selling turtle soup on the side. :fire:

[Edited on 3-28-2012 by ramuma53]

ramuma53 - 3-28-2012 at 09:59 PM

Pescador
We are not armed against old ladies with pepper spray, we are armed against drug dealers landing during the night with heavy weapons and destroying hotel property to avoid being discovered to the near by military posts.

You are going to need bigger guns

bajaguy - 3-28-2012 at 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by ramuma53
Pescador
We are not armed against old ladies with pepper spray, we are armed against drug dealers landing during the night with heavy weapons and destroying hotel property to avoid being discovered to the near by military posts.

If you are armed against drug dealers with heavy weapons, I'm afraid that you will need more than one shotgun with birdshot and one pistol............however, I'm sure your mileage WILL vary..........

tripledigitken - 3-29-2012 at 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by ramuma53
roundtuit
......but that you do not go very often to my hotel. :lol:

No one goes very often to your hotel!

Maybe you should ask yourself why that is? Clue, it's not "the drug runners" operating the Bar next door, they get customers.

Ken

mtgoat666 - 3-29-2012 at 06:00 AM

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more lies from ramsanus! what else is new?

Cypress - 3-29-2012 at 06:02 AM

Hotel? I attempted to spend some time at that hotel a while back. All the rooms were vacant. Sorta spooky. The folks managing the place acted odd. The whole experience gave me the creeps. Had to spend some time at Mark and Olivia's place to calm my nerves. :yes:

mtgoat666 - 3-29-2012 at 06:08 AM

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Originally posted by BajaNomad

ramsanus:
i think this chica is only person solidly linked to drug smuggling. do you employ a lot of drug smugglers?

the hotel staff

mtgoat666 - 3-29-2012 at 06:11 AM

our hotel staff eagerly await your arrival!!!!!!!!

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the hotel staff welcomes you with open "arms"!!!!!

mtgoat666 - 3-29-2012 at 06:16 AM

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ramuma53 - 3-29-2012 at 08:56 AM

tripledigitken
No those are only their customers

ramuma53 - 3-29-2012 at 09:02 AM

mtgoat666
They are standing at the Military post showing what they caught and I hope you know who the guy standing beside Maria Elizabeth is, because he is working with the Federal Police and he is no drug smuggler, you can find him at the Federal Police office in Santa Rosalia if you want to ask him yourself about if he is a drug smuggler.

You can try to manipulate images as you like, but that does not change the fact that Olivia your friend has absolutely no property papers.

Why don’t you show any but any property document, because this thread subject is the property ownership and I have shown my documents publicly.

ramuma53 - 3-29-2012 at 09:06 AM

mtgoat666
Efectively, that is part of the hotel staff and you are talking about honest workers and they were not jailed for any crime, they are in detatention while we show the property papers that the District attorney hided.

This is not the last word, this will crear and the workers will be free and in the mean while they are receiving 3 times their paycheck.

Also, only 2 were charged and the Judge dropped the charges, he is only waiting for the legal proof about the property and that is on the way already

ramuma53 - 3-29-2012 at 09:14 AM

mtgoat666

Concerning the photo that has been shown several times by your like, you as the drug smugglers advocate, please explain what Olivia was doing during the night IN MY HOTEL armed with pepper spray, an illegal weapon in Mexico.

She was confronted with completely legal fire weapons that were used with extreme and beyond the case carefulness; otherwise Olivia and Nark would be some dead drug smugglers.

Those weapons are allowed to be used as defense weapons and they certainly are; they cannot be used to attack heavy weapons and they are not designed for that purpose, only to discourage the intromission in to MY HOTEL by drug smugglers and that is exactly the way that they were used.

It is exactly as if you caught an illegaly armed thieff in your house, you confront him with legal arms and then the whole police force come to the thief aid, puting you in jail for invading your own house just on the simple word of the thief. :?:

tripledigitken - 3-29-2012 at 09:48 AM

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Originally posted by ramuma53
tripledigitken
No those are only their customers

Not in my case, senior. Are you accusing all who frequent there as being drug dealers? Careful sir, that bit of libel may come back to haunt you.

Ken

David K - 3-29-2012 at 10:26 AM

right... and I have some land in Florida to sell you! :lol:

Woooosh - 3-29-2012 at 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by David K
right... and I have some land in Florida to sell you! :lol:

Oh. Do you have the title? Of course you do, it's the USA and you can't legally advertise and sell land if you didn't own it and have the title. Sadly, not so in Mexico. Why are you promoting Florida real estate over Baja? You can't hide bankruptcy assets in Florida. Where's Diver been?

:saint:

mtgoat666 - 3-29-2012 at 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by lencho

Quote:

Originally posted by ramuma53
They are standing at the Military post showing what they caught and I hope you know who the guy standing beside Maria Elizabeth is...

I'm confused. Why is Maria Elizabeth in that picture? Are you saying she was working with the police during the drug bust?

usually in mexico drug bust photos for the press, the perps have exposed faces and LE wears masks. that's what i have noticed,... just saying,...
who has link to original source of photo??? joejoe, we need some research from you!!!!

Woooosh - 3-29-2012 at 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666

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Originally posted by lencho

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Originally posted by ramuma53
They are standing at the Military post showing what they caught and I hope you know who the guy standing beside Maria Elizabeth is...

I'm confused. Why is Maria Elizabeth in that picture? Are you saying she was working with the police during the drug bust?

JJJ=Anonymous poster with anonymous sources. That's the person whose documents you trust? puhlease... I'd ask Fulano.

ramuma53 - 4-2-2012 at 03:02 PM

tripledigitken
I am accusing nobody, a lot of Nomads stop there to eat a hamburger or for a drink, they see a normal restaurant with normal people, but they do it at business hours not at 3 Am in the morning and the drug business start at night and the unloading at 3 to 4 AM; have you been there at that time??????

What most of you see, is façade maintained to fool most of the people, but we are there 365.25/7/24 and that is what bothers them.

They have to cross my property to access the highway with their loads and that is what I object, because I am not in that business and I do not want to be; I do not accept money gifts for looking the other way and that is what disturb them; I see the patrol cars stop at the restaurant the next day of every unloading and they feel unsafe and open; that is their other business and they do not want to be exposed.

The Americans who lived there and were evicted by Olivia, know about the other business and I know because we caught some of them supposedly running at 3 AM on the highway and also caught the signal light where they were supposedly running. Simply, no American run at 3 AM on the highway alone near Buenaventura to exercise.

They can also tell you how Olivia and Michael George, the real Olivia’s husband, from nothing, started to have 3 big boats and a Cessna plane to go to Sinaloa; they were there when they operated the rent a young lady business; they know the real dark business behind Olivia and Michael George and now Olivia and Nark.

They can also tell you how Olivia defrauded them and others. My question is why they do not speak????????
They are also Nomads and have writhen here; why they never mention those golden years; I know because of Roberto and Franca Meloni and that is the reason why Roberto sold me the building back; he just didn’t want to be involved with Olivia anymore.

[Edited on 4-2-2012 by ramuma53]

[Edited on 4-2-2012 by ramuma53]

David K - 4-2-2012 at 03:10 PM

Just get over it... you aren't believable to anyone here but Elinvestig8r and he has never been to meet Mark and Olivia to judge their characters. Nomads live along Bahia Concepcion and there is no 3 am motorboats going in or out of the 25 mile long bay to Buenaventura.

Why do you want to take over Buenaventura completely when you can't even run a motel of your own there? Having their restaurant next to your motel is GOOD for your business... People like convenience of a bar/ restaurant by their motel. Mulege is too far away, afterall to go for a bite or a drink easily.

ramuma53 - 4-2-2012 at 03:14 PM

lencho
She is one of the main withneesses on the drug unloading and Navy inteligence asked her to show them many places, but the guy who work for them is the other guy Eduardo Villa Arellano, who you can find today if you want at the PGR office in Santa Rosalia.

ramuma53 - 4-2-2012 at 03:19 PM

Olivia and Nark published that photo and for your information, the photo was taken at the Loreto Army post 2 years ago and was taken down by orders of the Regional Army general, because it was being used in a wrong way; they were trying to advertise how drugs are captured, not the criminals, because it would be illegal.

If you have a criminal record for that lady, please show it here like I have shown Olivia and Nark's record.

[Edited on 4-2-2012 by ramuma53]

[Edited on 4-2-2012 by ramuma53]

David K - 4-2-2012 at 03:22 PM

and yet, Mark and Olivia today are running their restaurant, serving tourists, and your employees are in jail and your motel is deserted...???

ramuma53 - 4-2-2012 at 03:31 PM

David K
Just look at it in a few days, the one who laugh the last is the one who laugh the better.

Federal Protection against the illegal acts committed by the Estate District attorney has been granted and you will start to see legal effects by the end of next week.

In a couple of week you will see a lot of Army and Federal Police there to see if the Estate District attorney come back to help her friend.

You will be welcomed of course :tumble:

[Edited on 4-2-2012 by ramuma53]

David K - 4-2-2012 at 03:46 PM

OK... :wow:

latina - 4-2-2012 at 04:21 PM

ramuna53: That is not a criminal record. It is a letter to you acknowledging your endless complaints against Mark Burbey and apparently your constant presence in their offices. It is not an order for apprehension, only a letter that suggests to me that you spend a lot of time making complaints about Mark in order to try and get him out of your way.
Aren't you ever going to tire of pontificating about the imaginary drug boats, the criminal District Attorney, the imminent arrests and how superior you are? Are you afraid to come to BCS in case you are arrested for libel and slander against the authorities? There must be some reason you have not visited your employees in Santa Rosalia jail....after all, seeing how they were following your orders, I'm sure they would appreciate the support.

roundtuit - 4-2-2012 at 05:32 PM

ramuna53, When all this big change takes place at the motel, please let all us nomads that live in the surrounding areas a chance to see the BIG CHANGE. If you come to witness this I will buy you a beer in your NEW restaurant. I'm sure half of Mulege will show up more this gorgeous ocassion :bounce:

dtbushpilot - 4-2-2012 at 05:56 PM

ramuma53, perhaps you could offer a Nomad discount for the grand re-opening. Is the hotel pet friendly?....dt

norte - 4-2-2012 at 06:05 PM

Boy is the Chicken coup active tonight.... Just what is your interest in this hen house fight?

ramuma53 - 4-2-2012 at 06:37 PM

Latina or Maria Olivia Higuera Aguilar or La Vaquera in criminal words

Don't lie, that is not a complaint letter, it is an official report from the local District attorney to Mexican immigration officer that Nark or Mark Jerome Burbey is being prosecuted for those crimes, being:

Armed robbery with violence
Entering in to other people property
Damage to other people property

Concerning to you Vaquera
You have been convicted for selling a protected species in your restaurant, you are just waiting your jail sentence and time to serve it.

You have been convicted for fraud against Mr. & Mrs. Christ, ordered to repay the money and you have never complied with the order and very estrange, you are not in jail.

You are being prosecuted for injuries with intent to kill to James Rusell in your restaurant where you threw him in to the sea thinking he was dead and rescued by my employees; he heard you yelling Kill him fast Kill him, he is alive. Your employee said he was guilty to try to protect you, but you are not yet out of the woods because people recognized you as yelling kill him.

You are a drug dealer and serve as base for landing drugs, charging USD$5,000 for each drug boat that land at your restaurant.

Both of your brothers were killed in the drug wars in Mexicali and at that time you were working at the CFE in Mexicali B.C. also.

[Edited on 4-3-2012 by ramuma53]

ramuma53 - 4-2-2012 at 06:47 PM

In other words Vaquera
You are a convicted criminal several times.
You are a drug dealer with organized crime connections
You have never owned any land
You are a fraud
You are a killer

You canot denny any of those charges and if you do it, I will show here the proof that you are really what you are.

ramuma53 - 4-2-2012 at 06:49 PM

On the other side Vaquera, prove here with documents:

That I do not own my land.
That You own any peace of land.

That you are not a convicted criminal
that Nark is not being prosecuted for those crimes.
that you won any case against me or my land.

[Edited on 4-3-2012 by ramuma53]

dtbushpilot - 4-2-2012 at 07:16 PM

OK, so is the hotel pet friendly or not? I don't want to show up late in the day expecting a room and have to drive back to Mulege......dt

Cypress - 4-3-2012 at 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by norte
Boy is the Chicken coup active tonight.... Just what is your interest in this hen house fight?

And somebody left the"loonie bin" unlocked. My interest? Might want to return to Buenaventura some day. Maybe the hotel will be under new management? :biggrin:

Pescador - 4-3-2012 at 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by Cypress

Quote:

Originally posted by norte
Boy is the Chicken coup active tonight.... Just what is your interest in this hen house fight?

And somebody left the"loonie bin" unlocked. My interest? Might want to return to Buenaventura some day. Maybe the hotel will be under new management? :biggrin:

Hey, if El Mano Negro can stock Olivia's Kitchen with "Turtle" and the beach with "Drug Runners", why could we not put a few bluegill, crappie, and bream in the estuary so that you can bring the new fiberglass pole and fish.

Cypress - 4-3-2012 at 07:30 AM

Pescador, :lol:

toneart - 4-3-2012 at 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by dtbushpilot
OK, so is the hotel pet friendly or not? I don't want to show up late in the day expecting a room and have to drive back to Mulege......dt

Yes! It has definitely gone to the dogs! :lol:

rts551 - 4-3-2012 at 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by gnukid
It's nice to see the BCS authority at all levels doing their job to reduce property crimes, maintain access to beaches, stop invaders and protect the rightful land owners whether foreign or Mexican, as well to prosecute conspirators wherever they are. Congratulations to Olivia, Mark and family for enduring and succeeding in this case.

[Edited on 4-3-2012 by gnukid]

Isn't the legal consensus that they also don't have a right to the area. I thought I read where there presently is no legal owner or did I get it wrong?

David K - 4-3-2012 at 03:33 PM

Hooray for the good guys! Mark and Olivia... people that have endured crazy hardships and harassment... and still see to the needs of Baja travelers seeking a beautiful place to relax for a drink or a meal.

ramuma53 - 4-3-2012 at 08:44 PM

dtbushpilot
My new empolyees will be at the hotel in a couple of days, they will clean the hotel and see what Olivia and Nark stole then in no more than a week, they will have it up and running and then you can bring your pet safely.

ramuma53 - 4-4-2012 at 05:22 AM

David Kier
I wonder why you very clearly and unsreasonably, support people who sell turtle soup in a restaurant, belong to organized crime and is clearly trying to steal private property while selling drugs.

You can see that La Vaquera simply can not support her actions and also can not denny any of my aseverations; then why you without any reason, keep coming and coming as an advocate to crime?????????????????????

You can see here, that when La Vaquera con not answer with documents something, she and Nark just unleash a bunch of advocates to try to discredit the person, not the information.

Up to here, absolutely no legal argument has been shown here that support Olivias claims, while I have proved beyound doubt that I own the hotel with official documents already investigated by the Federal police.

Burbs - 4-4-2012 at 09:37 AM

Ramsanus, we do not need to prove anything here. Only you do.
I do owe you a BIG thank you for disproving yourself in the public eye. For exposing Rafael Munoz Martinez as to what and who he is. For this, I congratulate you and your boisterous ways. It has helped all to understand just what a stupid a#! we have had to deal with. Most could/would not believe us unless they could see with their own eyes just what you write. Thank you for exposing yourself!
Just keep asking myself why you keep doing these things and I can only come up with one reason. That being when the authorities catch up with you, you may plead insanity, or a mental illness properly named paranoid schizophrenic.
Maybe this can keep you out of the slammer//////////

\\\\\\\\\\.

dtbushpilot - 4-4-2012 at 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by ramuma53
dtbushpilot
My new empolyees will be at the hotel in a couple of days, they will clean the hotel and see what Olivia and Nark stole then in no more than a week, they will have it up and running and then you can bring your pet safely.

Thank you ramuma53, I'll check it out on my way south in a week or 2.....dt

David K - 4-4-2012 at 03:21 PM

Yah, that will be a hoot!

ramuma53 - 4-11-2012 at 08:19 AM

Nomads
As I promised, I have a new set of employees in my hotel working since last week.

The Judge has just dropped all charges on my people and will be free in a couple of days, as soon as he receives the last of authority information.

They will return to Buenaventura without charges and having being illegally detained for 45 days without a legal cause and because the Estate District attorney invented crimes on them, crimes that were not accepted by the criminal judge, who found them groundless and the procedure a human rights violation.

ramuma53 - 4-11-2012 at 08:21 AM

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Nomads

Also, I just received some very disturbing news that confirms what I have been saying all along.

When the people in charge of giving justice, sell themselves to the criminals, the criminals are able to act without fear of being prosecuted and they start to escalate on their crimes, based on the knowledge that they are paying the police and they can commit any crime; that start a slide down fall where the crimes committed by the criminal become bolder and bolder because now the police have to protect him against everything; they have became partners in crime, no longer criminal and police, they are a unity now and the criminal believe that he can perpetrate any crime while he believe the police is obligated by his money to protect him from prosecution.

This is happening to La Vaquera and Nark.
On my return from vacation I was informed that during the long weekend, Mark Jerome Burbey alias Nark, sexually attacked a 15 year old girl from central Mexico on vacation in Baja and who rented a room from Olivia and Nark.

It was confirmed by the Mulege Police and they informed me that he is being prosecuted, but the Estate District attorney sent one of his personal advisers to try to discredit the victim, but was unable because she had hired some Los Cabos attorney, who was a past district attorney.

National Press is waiting for the details, but to protect the victim, she was moved to La Paz on her mother and father in law protective custody.

Also in the waiting is a woman public manifestation against the illegal and cynical protection the Estate District attorney is providing to the child molester and attacker Mark Jerome Burbey, now a proved SEXUAL PREDATOR. :mad:

Forensic studies demonstrated that the child was sexually molested and she identified Mark Jerome Burbey as the attacker and Maria Olivia Higuera Aguilar La Vaquera as the helping hand.

The police tried to apprehend Mark Jerome Burbey as soon as the child sexual molestation was demonstrated, but the Estate District attorney prevented them from apprehend him as the law obligue.

The police who helped Nark and La Vaquera on her illegal intent to appropriate my hotel, told me they will not help them on the sexual child molestation, but they cannot do anything against their chief the Estate District attorney, but they will denounce if needed.

I will provide verifiable information in the next days, as soon as the information become public and the victim protected, because the Estate police is harassing her to try to protect the criminal.
:mad:

[Edited on 4-11-2012 by ramuma53]

mtgoat666 - 4-11-2012 at 08:38 AM

ramsanus:
your previous history of lying makes me wonder: how much did you pay the girl to fabricate the allegation?

norte - 4-11-2012 at 08:45 AM

This is a pretty big allegation, mr goat. My guess you stay NOB (with other smart people) so as not to get arrested for defamation.

ramuma53 - 4-11-2012 at 09:02 AM

mtgoat666
Nobody know who the child is and your manifestation just show who you are, because nobody can pay enough to a 15 year old kid to be sexually asaulted and only people like yourself are able to take that lightly and attack the victim to prtect the sexual predator.

Please think where that fact put you in the animal scale. :mad:

[Edited on 4-11-2012 by ramuma53]

Cypress - 4-11-2012 at 09:08 AM

Another chapter begins.

ramuma53 - 4-11-2012 at 09:10 AM

Norte
This is public news now, only the personal information is being withheld to protect the children victim and it will explode in a few days all over the national news, because it involves an American fellow; an American who accepted to be tried as a Mexican and not to ask for American help in writing.

Why did he do that??? to avoid being deported for all the other criminal acts he is being prosecuted as I demonstrated.

I contacted the child’s attorney and he confirmed the crime but he did not want to go public until the child is out of the Estate and in a protective custody, but he will prosecute all the way.

The incredible fact is that while the crime was demonstrated by forensics and she and her mother fingered Nark and Olivia, the Estate District attorney refused to apprehend the criminal and sexual predator Nark Jerome Burbey.

greengoes - 4-11-2012 at 09:15 AM

ramuma53 - 4-11-2012 at 09:16 AM

Cypress

If you consider a Sexual predator attack on a 15 year old girl another chapter, you are as wrong as Mgato666.

This is not another chapter, is a serial criminal committing a series of crimes, starting with:
Armed robbery, damage to property, injuries with intent to kill, intent of property robbery and now sexual child molestation.

The question is how long the list is going to be allowed to grow by the Baja Estate District attorney.

ramuma53 - 4-11-2012 at 09:16 AM

Cypress

If you consider a Sexual predator attack on a 15 year old girl another chapter, you are as wrong as Mgato666.

This is not another chapter, is a serial criminal committing a series of crimes, starting with:
Armed robbery, damage to property, selling turtle soup at their restaurant El Sargazxo, injuries with intent to kill, intent of property robbery and now sexual child molestation.

The question is how long the list is going to be allowed to grow by the Baja Estate District attorney.

[Edited on 4-11-2012 by ramuma53]

Trueheart - 4-11-2012 at 09:16 AM

Mark, would you care to deny this allegation?

ramuma53 - 4-11-2012 at 09:17 AM

greengoes

And you are right, but you know that when I communicate something here, I have the legal proof to sustain it and I will show it here in detail.

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