BajaNomad - Possible ECR spur trail

Possible ECR spur trail

Pages: 1 2

Fatboy - 2-18-2025 at 09:48 AM

I do not have the coordinates but is on the edge of the large wash about a mile or two from Rancho Nuevo.

If you 'start' at Rancho Nuevo and follow the road south from there until it 'T's at a large wash it is right down in the wash from there.

4x4abc - 2-18-2025 at 12:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy

I do not have the coordinates but is on the edge of the large wash about a mile or two from Rancho Nuevo.

If you 'start' at Rancho Nuevo and follow the road south from there until it 'T's at a large wash it is right down in the wash from there.

past rancho Esperanza Dos?

geoffff - 2-18-2025 at 12:48 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy

Not sure if this will work from OnX

That OnX GPX file is empty. (Note that it's only 350 bytes long.) It has all the GPX wrapper stuff, but no actual data.

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<gpx version="1.1" creator="onXmaps backcountry android" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/gpx.xsd http://onxmaps.com/"
	xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1"
	xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
	xmlns:onx="http://wwww.onxmaps.com/"/>

Fatboy - 2-18-2025 at 12:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by geoffff

Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy

Not sure if this will work from OnX

That OnX GPX file is empty. (Note that it's only 350 bytes long.) It has all the GPX wrapper stuff, but no actual data.

Code:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<gpx version="1.1" creator="onXmaps backcountry android" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1 http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1/gpx.xsd http://onxmaps.com/"
	xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1"
	xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
	xmlns:onx="http://wwww.onxmaps.com/"/>

I think that file is for the 'game' trail, which I think I posted as a KML on a later post....

Fatboy - 2-18-2025 at 12:59 PM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy

past rancho Esperanza Dos?

I don't think....

It is near 28.25797n 113.45258w

4x4abc - 2-18-2025 at 01:33 PM

gracias!

More from Kevin of CaminoRealBaja.com

David K - 2-19-2025 at 01:00 PM

I asked for clarification about the kiln and waterhole [with my notes and ready to plug in numbers]:

The waterhole is at N28degrees 13.5064minutes
by W113d 21.5534m [ 28°13.5064', -113°21.5534' ]
You will see trees and stone corrals on Google Earth. We will be shifting a few of the waypoints in this area to match what we have found.

The kiln is at N28d 15.8920m by W113d 26.8598m [ 28°15.8920', -113°26.8598' ]
It is the same kiln in Crosby’s book.

[I can't find any kiln photos in The King's Higway or the other books...?]

Fatboy - 2-19-2025 at 01:10 PM

Crosby spends a paragraph or two talking about the Kiln, but no pictures....

I posted a picture in Failed ECR Hike post, but for some reason all those pictures are gone....

cupcake - 2-19-2025 at 08:56 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy

Crosby spends a paragraph or two talking about the Kiln, but no pictures....

I posted a picture in Failed ECR Hike post, but for some reason all those pictures are gone....

John, Are you certain the photos you posted actually were ever visible on the website? When resizing photos so that BajaNomad can except them, I have found it necessary to make sure the image size is below 342kb and also that both the width and height of the image are below 1600 (whichever is the larger, width or height, just set it to below 1600 and the other measurement will automatically be taken care of at the same time). I have found resizing a jpg easy to do by right clicking on the image and selecting 'resize image', then making the adjustments as necessary (when saving it, change the name so that the original higher resolution image is not overwritten and lost).

[Edited on 2-20-2025 by cupcake]

Fatboy - 2-19-2025 at 09:56 PM

Well, it was a couple years ago, but I believe so....

Here is the kiln...

Here is a picture of the trail I was referring to

26 short trail.jpg - 338kB

Here is a cleared spot up on the mesa top

25 other sleeping spot.jpg - 334kB

4x4abc - 2-19-2025 at 11:13 PM

what was the kiln used for?

4x4abc - 2-19-2025 at 11:16 PM

Edie took a picture on her trip

cupcake - 2-20-2025 at 09:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy

Well, it was a couple years ago, but I believe so....

If the photos were there and then later disappeared, perhaps it could mean that the website photo size requirements changed, for smaller photos, and this caused the automatic deletion of previously posted photos that did not meet the new size requirement. If this was the case though, I would expect more photos to have disappeared and the event to have been previously discussed on the forum.

[Edited on 2-20-2025 by cupcake]

David K - 2-20-2025 at 09:24 AM

Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc

what was the kiln used for?

Being pretty far from any mission, it wouldn't be for making lime. How about for the roasting of agaves for food?

Fatboy - 2-20-2025 at 09:34 AM

Crosby says it was for lime.....maybe there is a mission nearby?

What is odd is it doesn't show signs of use in the pit itself. Some of the rocks stacked on edge looks like they were exposed to heat, though.

cupcake - 2-20-2025 at 10:38 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Fatboy

Crosby says it was for lime.....maybe there is a mission nearby?

What is odd is it doesn't show signs of use in the pit itself. Some of the rocks stacked on edge looks like they were exposed to heat, though.

In your photo, I see what looks like it could be evidence of fire on the stacked rocks, but I don't see that same look on the rock wall below the stacked rocks. Maybe the stacked rocks could have been exposed to fire before they were put in place at their current location.

There are a number of lime kiln images online from the Spanish colonial era. They all seem to show strong evidence of fire, which I don't see in the images of the artifact in this thread.
A link to a couple of lime kiln images:
https://www.nps.gov/places/lime-kiln.htm

[Edited on 2-20-2025 by cupcake]

Pages: 1 2