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Dave - 6-26-2006 at 10:44 PM

What are you guys getting all self-righteous about? They found a property that was too much to handle. They are trying to get investors. If you have a problem with that then...How would YOU do it differently?

soulpatch - 6-26-2006 at 10:55 PM

BBBBBBlowhard.

Dave - 6-26-2006 at 11:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Baja Bernie
How about dropping it in memory of JR


I'm sure that's exactly what JR would want. ;D

Bob and Susan - 6-27-2006 at 04:19 AM

from the website...
"We have substantial assets in North America"

Why doesn't pilar purchase the property and then sell the investment.
There is currently NO risk for pilar...
They could walk away and leave investors hanging.
Stuff happens even if they have VERY GOOD intentions.

from the website....
"We are setting up the "form" of ownership"

Mexico is VERY clear what kind of ownership foriengers can have.
Is there a Mexican Corp in place?...i don't see it.

from the website....
"We are opposed to subdividing the property (at first). Subdividing property in Mexico is very time consuming and expensive. Also, once property is subdivided the government agencies are involved in all improvements (e.g. roads, utilities, wells) which again is very time consuming and expensive. It is far more advantageous to share one property with CC&Rs until the property is fully developed and then, if desired, subdivide. To give a simple example: if a road is constructed on private land and exists for five years before the property is subdivided then when the property is subdivided the road is adopted an official road without paying fees or acquiring permits."

Did you EVER get 10 people to think the SAME:lol:
Offical roads to get to you property IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
Problems WILL come up later.
Just because its "time consuming and expensive" is not an excuse for "doing it correctly"

from the website....
"The plan is to control the ownership of lots by partnership shares with each 10% ownership share entitled to one beachfront lot and the rows of lots behind that lot. So, for example, if there are 10 oceanfront rows and 7 east-west rows then the investor would have the entire 5 to 6 lot row starting at the ocean and extending east & west. This would be the starting point. Working together the partners could exchange lots to form blocks of lots (if they wish). Actually it is very simple and supports rapid development"

With out deeded or trust land you have NO control....
Each lot 50 feet wide...measure your house and side yard today...
The place WILL be PACKED...think ahead.

Where is the water?
Electricty?
Septic?
Approved Permits for the Mexican plan for the property
Mexican Enviromental Impact Report done?
Concession?
OLd underlaying Deeds? (Punta Banta)

They want investors to pay $28,000 for their piece of the dirt...risky is NOT the word

Baja Bernie - 6-27-2006 at 06:37 AM

I'm sure JR would say, "Put the Lady back in the chicken coup and forget it," If you really want to get involved then help the "humans."

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 07:45 AM

Hola - in response to your questions - our next trip to the property is July 22nd. We are picking up folks from the San Diego Airport and heading to Ensenada for breakfast with the attorney. From there we visit the property and meet with the Engineer, Architect and Emilio (hopefully, our caretaker). We then head back to Ensenada and spend the night at El Cid. There are about a dozen people going so far, same as the Jun 9th trip. Thanks for your interest and your comments about the posts on this web... enjoy, Maria Del Pilar

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 07:57 AM

Hey Bob & Susan -- I'm impressed.. for you to spend that much time on something you don't even care about.. shows you are either very bored or very scarced... lol I saw a lot of opinions (you are the King of that!) No knowlege.. and, to your credit.. no lies stated as facts.. Very well done.
Enjoy, Maria Del Pilar - wish you great happiness living in my country!

My gosh, that is one very long post...

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 08:20 AM

Pilar2006 are you not a U.S. citizen?

bajamigo - 6-27-2006 at 08:33 AM

No, she's not a US citizen. ************. Bob and Susan gave a very fair and balanced analysis of the issues involved in this "investment,' and in typical fashion, Pilar pillories them. I can't believe how easily she yields to the to temptation to attack. Yessir, a first-class investment opportunity.

[Edited on 6-27-2006 by BajaNomad]

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 09:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajamigo
No, she's not a US citizen. She's an idiot. Bob and Susan gave a very fair and balanced analysis of the issues involved in this "investment,' and in typical fashion, Pilar pillories them. I can't believe how easily she yields to the to temptation to attack. Yessir, a first-class investment opportunity.


she is doing that on purpose, you can tell she likes to fight more than she likes to sell lots.:lol:

bajalou - 6-27-2006 at 10:10 AM

Pilar2006
It would be nice if you would address the points made by Bob & Susan. When you san "No knowledge" that is true - and that's why I would like to see you clarify it. So we CAN have som knowledge with which to make some assessment and decisions.

Cypress - 6-27-2006 at 10:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajalou
Pilar2006
It would be nice if you would address the points made by Bob & Susan. When you san "No knowledge" that is true - and that's why I would like to see you clarify it. So we CAN have som knowledge with which to make some assessment and decisions.

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 10:37 AM

Hola Bajamigo (lol) - thanks for the nice comment. You are another who speaks with little to no knowledge - not a US citizen. lol. Sorry if the truth about Bob & Susan offends you.

Below is a direct and honest quote from Bill & Susan telling me what to do and how to do it (masters of ordering other people around) AND this is a direct quote.. you can find it on this thread!

don't try to sell it telling people that "things will happen soon" like an international airport...it just won't happen

OK, Mr "Bob and Susan gave a very fair and balanced analysis" find any post by myself or anyone else stating that "things will happen soon" You find the quote! Tell me, is that is an outright lie or just a self serving misquote.

Now consider this from lencho. "...they were careful of their demeanor that they not be thought to have opinions on what they heard for like most men skilled at their work they were scornful of any least suggestion of knowing anything not learned at first hand." --Cormac McCarthy, All the Pretty Horses.

See if you can understand it! *********************
*********************************************

[Edited on 6-27-2006 by BajaNomad]

Cypress - 6-27-2006 at 10:40 AM

Pilar has stired-up a hornet nest and has come out swinging! Don't have a dog in this race. Enjoying the back and forth exchanges. Being a redneck from down south, can't help but enjoy a good peeing contest. Heck, Pilar will probably jump on me for being a red neck. She's a combative lady.

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 10:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
Hola Bajamigo (lol) - thanks for the nice comment. You are another who speaks with little to no knowledge - not a US citizen. lol. Sorry if the truth about Bob & Susan offends you.

Below is a direct and honest quote from Bill & Susan telling me what to do and how to do it (masters of ordering other people around) AND this is a direct quote.. you can find it on this thread!

don't try to sell it telling people that "things will happen soon" like an international airport...it just won't happen

OK, Mr "Bob and Susan gave a very fair and balanced analysis" find any post by myself or anyone else stating that "things will happen soon" You find the quote! Tell me, is that is an outright lie or just a self serving misquote.

Now consider this from lencho. "...they were careful of their demeanor that they not be thought to have opinions on what they heard for like most men skilled at their work they were scornful of any least suggestion of knowing anything not learned at first hand." --Cormac McCarthy, All the Pretty Horses.

See if you can understand it! *********************
*********************************************


you just sold another one:lol::lol::P

[Edited on 6-27-2006 by BajaNomad]

comitan - 6-27-2006 at 10:45 AM

Well I'm with Lou I would like to see the points made by Bob and Susan answered. Rather than fiestily beating around the bush.

Paula - 6-27-2006 at 11:04 AM

Creo que debamos usar mas lenguas aqu?. No estoy bastante confundido.:lol::lol::lol:

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 11:35 AM

Hola Cypress -
(((There is no risk to Pilar.. tell me what this is based on?)))
Now that is a down right lie.. as only Bob & Susan know. You see, somehow they got into the private webpage of the partners of Playa de Arena and quoted the deposits. So they know this is a lie. However, back handedly they are right.. because to partnership has voted for Title Insurance.

((("Why doesn't Pilar purchase the property and then sell the investment.")))
And be another big developer, lol, and charge the big bucks, and set up the 51% corporations, and get kickbacks from all the home owners for services. Nah, I'll leave that to Bob & Susan! And again this is a silly question.. if they would read the posts they would have noticed this question has already been answered.


(((Mexico is VERY clear what kind of ownership foreigners can have. Is there a Mexican Corp in place?...i don't see it.)))
Now this is the worst of all comments! Can you figure out why? Forming a CORPORATION for residential property is ILLEGAL and many North Americans are going to pay the price for trying to get around the law! I sure hope the properties they are advertising aren't sold as a corporation!

(((Did you EVER get 10 people to think the SAME)))
- this makes sense.. anyone know thinks he can order everyone around like Bob & Susan could never figure out how people can work together (without having to bend over and kiss their feet!) We have 20 people working together with 120% energy. When we disagree we do so respectfully and then vote. Vote, wow, a new concept for Bob & Susan.. and one that, sad to say, is dying out.

(((Offical roads to get to you property IS VERY IMPORTANT!!! Problems WILL come up later. Just because its "time consuming and expensive" is not an excuse for "doing it correctly")))

No one understands what he is trying to say, sorry! Roads, Mexico.. isn't this one of the easier topics...

For them to talk about a Deed is funny. A while back my husband discussed "Titulo" on this website (you can verify with Doug). He had a very pleasant exchange with Bob & Susan. Based on the conversation.. Bob & Susan went back through their massive amount of paperwork and actually found they had a Titulo. Thanks to my husband they now know they have TITLE.

The remaining comments are just plain silly! Sounds like a big developer talking! However, I will answer: This is being worked out by a group of people who can think for themselves, know how to use professional assistance and work well with others. Many are professionals who don't need someone telling them what to do. They have been working on the items below and many, many more.

(((Where is the water? Electricity? Septic? Approved Permits for the Mexican plan for the property Mexican Environmental Impact Report done? Concession? Old underplaying Deeds? (Punta Banta))))

(((No we don't want investors to pay $28,000 for a piece of dirt.))) The investors have been to the property and immediately made their deposits to the Custodial Account (another new term?) On July 22nd another group of 12 or more people will stand on "dirt" and meet their neighbors and most likely fall in love with the property. What is exciting is that some of the first group wants to come down and meet the people of the second group -- it's called bonding, and we do tend to party a little too much! The sad part, is there is only room for 8 of them.

(((...risky is NOT the word)))
risky is dealing with a person who bought property without knowing what a Titulo is and didn't even know if they have one! Now, that is far more than Risky!

You need to check Bob & Susan's website. They are backing developments to the south. The thought of 20 North Americans and/or Mexicans coming together to create their own community and not paying the developer's bid bucks worry them. And it should, because this is now a worldwide trend.

We have been approached by other middle class Americans familiar with Baja Sur who are asking us to help them create our concept in their area.. so, anyone making the big bucks off the gringos coming to Baja should worry - not about us.. heck we are the little fish.. but about the concept.

This is how the Big Full Service Stock Brokerage Companies acted when the Discount Brokerage Companies were formed. A lot of half truths, mud slings, denial and insults - all of which didn't work!
Hope this answered your questions... got research to do.. thanks, Maria Del Pilar.

pilar's battle

Cypress - 6-27-2006 at 12:26 PM

Pilar, Take a few deep breaths! It's gonna work-out just fine. Things are gonna be OK! You'll be alright. Keep 'on swinging! Nothing like a good knock-down-drag-out to get folks attention!

Paula - 6-27-2006 at 01:09 PM

Larry,

:lol::lol::lol::P ?S? s?! Son suficientes.

Qu? malo es mi espa?ol. Lenguas or lenguajes?

And I so wanted to impress Pilar...

bajalou - 6-27-2006 at 02:14 PM

Well, thanks for the effort - Nothing much was answered with specifics - still just generalizations.

Who cares about Bob and Susan's projects? We were talking of yours.

The questions raised should be answered for anyone investing anywhere in the world.

Thanks anyway

[Edited on 6-27-2006 by bajalou]

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 02:29 PM

Is that bajalou from ****SAN FELIPE****
and thank you for the effort..even if you didn't raise any questions.
Sincerely, Maria Del Pilar

Right place, wrong person

Hook - 6-27-2006 at 04:11 PM

I guess I fall into the minority opinion who feel that Pilar has every right to pitch her commercial venture on this, the appropriate board.

Pilar, I suggest that the first thing your group of investors do when they have some dollars in hand is to go out and hire SOMEONE else to market the venture besides you. :yes:

[Edited on 6-27-2006 by Hook]

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 05:03 PM

I guess I'm out of the game every time I make a post on this thread it gets deleted right away .:no::no::no::no:

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 05:25 PM

Oh Hook, do not really think I'm marketing the venture? Think about it. We have already set up one group of twenty investors. We only have one other property which will take a year to close and we have only 8 slots and 12 people going down to look at the property July 22nd. This is about concept, not selling! I don't like the developers who pretend it be Nomads with no self interests! So I get to expose the developers and talk about my concept.. too cool!

Bruce - I asked hubby to read the posts and he refused. He did say he would answer you....

Darrell05: Thank you for inviting me Mr Leech. I see you are in Mulege. I love water and Mulege provides so many wonderful options. Several years ago I did extensive research on Mulege and was very awestruck. We were headed your way but when I gazed upon the bay at Bahia de Los Angeles I couldn't leave until it was time to head home. That has to be the most gorgeous bay in the world! The trip really changed my feelings about Baja.

Pilar asked me to read the posts. Seven pages, not on your life! And for one parcel of land? My little website doesn't get that many emails in a month! I hope all of you listing properties on this site get top dollar and those buying property on this site find the place of their dreams. I have experienced extremely great fortune though real estate and the stock market. I support Pilar's Mexico concept but it is very infinitesimal compared to my other responsibilities.

I must apologize to Doug because I read a million posts on this site for everyone I write. I'm more of a researcher than a writer. I think this website is spectacular and has a wealth of knowledge. I'm not weighing in on the sparring, but I would like say this - Maria Del Pilar, fourth generation Mexican, is not the type of person to throw the first stone and she's also not the type to back down. She is loaded with sarcasm but I've learned there is always truth behind every sarcastic comment.

Fill every minute with excitement and adventure for you will never get that minute back. Sincerely, Darrell :-) headed to Guadalajara

bancoduo - 6-27-2006 at 05:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bruce R Leech
I guess I'm out of the game every time I make a post on this thread it gets deleted right away .:no::no::no::no:
Me too. I think we got hit with a eco-hammer!:no::no::no::no:

The Sculpin - 6-27-2006 at 05:35 PM

Ho Hum.....

This post us SUCH a waste of time......

Well, here goes...my opinion, which is fact by the way, is that the only thing this discussion needs now is a little more tequila. That being said, I will now go enjoy some more tequilla.

Thank you.

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 05:35 PM

well bancoduo I guess she won after all and she even got Doug to clean up the whole thread before she showed it to her Hubey. poor guy.

see how long this one lasts.

bancoduo - 6-27-2006 at 05:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
Oh Hook, do not really think I'm marketing the venture? Think about it. We have already set up one group of twenty investors. We only have one other property which will take a year to close and we have only 8 slots and 12 people going down to look at the property July 22nd. This is about concept, not selling! I don't like the developers who pretend it be Nomads with no self interests! So I get to expose the developers and talk about my concept.. too cool!

Bruce - I asked hubby to read the posts and he refused. He did say he would answer you....

Darrell05: Thank you for inviting me Mr Leech. I see you are in Mulege. I love water and Mulege provides so many wonderful options. Several years ago I did extensive research on Mulege and was very awestruck. We were headed your way but when I gazed upon the bay at Bahia de Los Angeles I couldn't leave until it was time to head home. That has to be the most gorgeous bay in the world! The trip really changed my feelings about Baja.

Pilar asked me to read the posts. Seven pages, not on your life! And for one parcel of land? My little website doesn't get that many emails in a month! I hope all of you listing properties on this site get top dollar and those buying property on this site find the place of their dreams. I have experienced extremely great fortune though real estate and the stock market. I support Pilar's Mexico concept but it is very infinitesimal compared to my other responsibilities.

I must apologize to Doug because I read a million posts on this site for everyone I write. I'm more of a researcher than a writer. I think this website is spectacular and has a wealth of knowledge. I'm not weighing in on the sparring, but I would like say this - Maria Del Pilar, fourth generation Mexican, is not the type of person to throw the first stone and she's also not the type to back down. She is loaded with sarcasm but I've learned there is always truth behind every sarcastic comment.

Fill every minute with excitement and adventure for you will never get that minute back. Sincerely, Darrell :-) headed to Guadalajara
She said you were in Africa:?:No need to respond; I'm just trailer trash

[Edited on 6-28-2006 by bancoduo]

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 05:51 PM

bancoduo - poor guy! write this down.. Derek is a member of our group (now that's Derek with a k) and he's in Aficia. (or Afikia to you) Darrell, my husband, (that is with an two Ls) is on his way to Guadalajara. And you I'm sure are on your way to the bathroom!

Again your post has nothing to do with "Baja Real Estate Available." When our group comes down we got to stop by *******************. Respectfully, Maria Del Pilar

[Edited on 6-28-2006 by BajaNomad]

bancoduo - 6-27-2006 at 06:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The Sculpin
Ho Hum.....

This post us SUCH a waste of time......

Well, here goes...my opinion, which is fact by the way, is that the only thing this discussion needs now is a little more tequila. That being said, I will now go enjoy some more tequilla.

Thank you.
Your right! I'm going out buy a bottle of tequila with 3L's. While I am in a drunken stooper can somebody do some research and find out who is in Afrika. :?::?:

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 06:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
bancoduo - poor guy! write this down.. Derek is a member of our group (now that's Derek with a k) and he's in Aficia. (or Afikia to you) Darrell, my husband, (that is with an two Ls) is on his way to Guadalajara. And you I'm sure are on your way to the bathroom!

Again your post has nothing to do with "Baja Real Estate Available." When our group comes down we got to stop by *********************. Respectfully, Maria Del Pilar

Maria Del Pilar is that what you call Respectfully:lol::o:no:

[Edited on 6-28-2006 by BajaNomad]

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 07:08 PM

I offer great respect where great respect is given.. I know, I know -- How dare that Mexican woman think us macho men need to show respect!

and again you break the Baja Nomad Rules. Your comments waste space, aren't directed towards the topic and could be considered harassment. But not by me, I think you're a joke. Respectfully, Maria Del Pilar

Al G - 6-27-2006 at 07:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
bancoduo - poor guy! write this down.. Derek is a member of our group (now that's Derek with a k) and he's in Aficia. (or Afikia to you) Darrell, my husband, (that is with an two Ls) is on his way to Guadalajara. And you I'm sure are on your way to the bathroom!



[Edited on 6-28-2006 by BajaNomad]

I apologize, and want to tell you, most of the members of Baja Nomads are really nice people and truly mean well. I know I need to read all posts, but after 5 pages(been at the NASCAR races) I am truly surprised someone didn't tell you Banoduo is 12 years old at best, read some of his early post. He got his post count by saying stupid things at stupid times. It is best not read or answer his goofy statements. Bruce is a really great guy and don't understand his posts. Need to read more before I stick my foot in my mouth. My guess is, he tried to help and was misunderstood. I'll read more, but don't give up, I know you will be a great Nomad.
Albert

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 07:30 PM

Al - please help with this one... bancoduo has posted numerous silly comments all off the topic. When this reached the point of harassment I started sending his comments to the moderator, yet he is still here. Why? Is there something I don't know?
Respectfully, Maria Del Pilar

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 07:32 PM

Rancho El Tecolote For Sale Mulege BCS Rancho El Tecolote is ideally suited for a person that loves nature, doesn?t want close neighbors, and desires not to be too far from town. For the more ambitious person, it could be a Luxury Guest Ranch!!! for the less ambitious person it will be a nightmare
The well pumps the water into a 15,000 gallon pila or reservoir that doubles as a swimming pool. Wow, your friends and neighbors can swim in your drinking water -- how exciting
..no electricity but is only a couple of posts away from the main lines servicing Mulege. Wow, the owner drops $200,000 into improvements and forgot he didn't have electric. that only costs $8,500. is he a heavy drinker? at least they can't say his lights are on but no one is home.
The clear title for Rancho El Tecolote is held with a Mexican Corporation in which the owner holds 100% of the stock. opps .. you forgot to tell them something .. didn't you.. shame
You can purchase the ranch, either with or without the corporation at no extra cost. Guess this says it all - the corporation is worthless Rancho El Tecolote is being offered for $150,000.00 Dollars FIRM.(Firm, Mexico, Firm - lol) The seller has invested over $200,000 dollars in this project. You will get a lot (a lot of what) for your money!!!
This is my favorite part: Like the owner, this is your chance to make big money like the original owner. Put in $200,000 to get out $150,000, and don't forget your time invested.

Paula - 6-27-2006 at 07:38 PM

gracias, Larry

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 08:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Al G
Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
bancoduo - poor guy! write this down.. Derek is a member of our group (now that's Derek with a k) and he's in Aficia. (or Afikia to you) Darrell, my husband, (that is with an two Ls) is on his way to Guadalajara. And you I'm sure are on your way to the bathroom!



[Edited on 6-28-2006 by BajaNomad]

I apologize, and want to tell you, most of the members of Baja Nomads are really nice people and truly mean well. I know I need to read all posts, but after 5 pages(been at the NASCAR races) I am truly surprised someone didn't tell you Banoduo is 12 years old at best, read some of his early post. He got his post count by saying stupid things at stupid times. It is best not read or answer his goofy statements. Bruce is a really great guy and don't understand his posts. Need to read more before I stick my foot in my mouth. My guess is, he tried to help and was misunderstood. I'll read more, but don't give up, I know you will be a great Nomad.
Albert


Albert it will be imposable for you to understand this thread because every thing is out of context. there have been so many posts deleted and so much editing that it is just a peace of swiss cheese.

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 08:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
Rancho El Tecolote For Sale Mulege BCS Rancho El Tecolote is ideally suited for a person that loves nature, doesn?t want close neighbors, and desires not to be too far from town. For the more ambitious person, it could be a Luxury Guest Ranch!!! for the less ambitious person it will be a nightmare
The well pumps the water into a 15,000 gallon pila or reservoir that doubles as a swimming pool. Wow, your friends and neighbors can swim in your drinking water -- how exciting
..no electricity but is only a couple of posts away from the main lines servicing Mulege. Wow, the owner drops $200,000 into improvements and forgot he didn't have electric. that only costs $8,500. is he a heavy drinker? at least they can't say his lights are on but no one is home.
The clear title for Rancho El Tecolote is held with a Mexican Corporation in which the owner holds 100% of the stock. opps .. you forgot to tell them something .. didn't you.. shame
You can purchase the ranch, either with or without the corporation at no extra cost. Guess this says it all - the corporation is worthless Rancho El Tecolote is being offered for $150,000.00 Dollars FIRM.(Firm, Mexico, Firm - lol) The seller has invested over $200,000 dollars in this project. You will get a lot (a lot of what) for your money!!!
This is my favorite part: Like the owner, this is your chance to make big money like the original owner. Put in $200,000 to get out $150,000, and don't forget your time invested.


Pilar2006 you know I never attacked your project. I only came back on you personally after you stabbed me in the back for trying to help you. it is hard to tell now because you have hit the report post button so many times. now you are copying and pasting off of my web site . with out my permission. all of this shows your real character. I think you need help Pilar2006



Pilar2006 I don't push the report button I want every one to see what kind of evil person you really are

Al G - 6-27-2006 at 08:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
Al - please help with this one... bancoduo has posted numerous silly comments all off the topic. When this reached the point of harassment I started sending his comments to the moderator, yet he is still here. Why? Is there something I don't know?
Respectfully, Maria Del Pilar

If there was was a limit to "How many stupid things you can say" He (Bancoduo)would not be a Nomad, but this is a liberal board and thanks to Doug one of the best. It is his right of censorship and I think his job is tough and do not envy him.
Got to read more!
Your view of Bob and Susan may be off base. They, like you help Mexican owners advertise and accept no monetary thanks.

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 08:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pilar2006
Rancho El Tecolote For Sale Mulege BCS Rancho El Tecolote is ideally suited for a person that loves nature, doesn?t want close neighbors, and desires not to be too far from town. For the more ambitious person, it could be a Luxury Guest Ranch!!! for the less ambitious person it will be a nightmare
The well pumps the water into a 15,000 gallon pila or reservoir that doubles as a swimming pool. Wow, your friends and neighbors can swim in your drinking water -- how exciting
..no electricity but is only a couple of posts away from the main lines servicing Mulege. Wow, the owner drops $200,000 into improvements and forgot he didn't have electric. that only costs $8,500. is he a heavy drinker? at least they can't say his lights are on but no one is home.
The clear title for Rancho El Tecolote is held with a Mexican Corporation in which the owner holds 100% of the stock. opps .. you forgot to tell them something .. didn't you.. shame
You can purchase the ranch, either with or without the corporation at no extra cost. Guess this says it all - the corporation is worthless Rancho El Tecolote is being offered for $150,000.00 Dollars FIRM.(Firm, Mexico, Firm - lol) The seller has invested over $200,000 dollars in this project. You will get a lot (a lot of what) for your money!!!
This is my favorite part: Like the owner, this is your chance to make big money like the original owner. Put in $200,000 to get out $150,000, and don't forget your time invested.



Pilar2006 go back and read if you can all of my posts and show you where Attacked your project. I never did because I don't know anything about it. after you stabbed me in the back after trying to help you get off on a good foot here I returned the attack on you personally not on your business. you seem to have a real problem keeping facts strait and also who is helping and who is hearting you.

you have shown me and allot of others buy attacking my Ranch that I have for sale in such a underhanded and devious way just what you are all about. I cant for the world of me figure out how you think this is ever going to make people like or trust you. I really feel sorry for you and your husband starting out on your venture and having to deal with your attitude when it comes to dealing with people. I don't expect this will stay posted very long because you are going to hit the report post again and it will be gone.

good luck in your business and I hope I never meet you.
Bruce

jimgrms - 6-27-2006 at 09:00 PM

and i always thought car salesmen were pains i give up pilar no go sell go sell your commune to the suckers from podunk

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 09:02 PM

Bruce - I came here to introduce an idea and post a property. I didn't come here to fight but when your folks started started throwing mud - I wasn't about to back down! As they tried to offend me I exposed their untrue, half true, misleading and self servicing statements.

Then you came up with
"Pilar2006 I can see you have an attitude problem here." Go back and see if you can figure out why I had an attitude problem! Start with the second post.. and to think members tried to justify the Spam Can Man!

This section is about "Baja Real Estate Available" which is exactly why I'm here. The real question is why are the others here. One would expect Sellers and Buying to be in this section.

If the good folks who made posts having nothing to do with REAL ESTATE in this section had made REAL ESTATE posts in the General Discussion Area they would have been kicked out of this website. So why aren't the abuser of this area subject to the same punishment?

Larry, you are lucky I'm not moderator cause I would delete every comment not related to Real Estate. Boy, we'd be back at Page 1 - where we should be!

Gracias, Maria Del Pilar

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 09:04 PM

good luck in your business and I hope I never meet you.
Bruce
Bruce R Leech
Mulege Baja
Visit our webpage in Mulege.....

and good luck to you Bruce on your business and I hope my cousins never meet you.

Bruce R Leech - 6-27-2006 at 09:07 PM

Disclaimer I have not deleted or altered any post that I have made on this thread .

bancoduo - 6-27-2006 at 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Al G
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Originally posted by Pilar2006
Al - please help with this one... bancoduo has posted numerous silly comments all off the topic. When this reached the point of harassment I started sending his comments to the moderator, yet he is still here. Why? Is there something I don't know?
Respectfully, Maria Del Pilar

If there was was a limit to "How many stupid things you can say" He (Bancoduo)would not be a Nomad, but this is a liberal board and thanks to Doug one of the best. It is his right of censorship and I think his job is tough and do not envy him.
Got to read more!
Your view of Bob and Susan may be off base. They, like you help Mexican owners advertise and accept no monetary thanks.
Why don't we deal with this off topic.:moon::moon:

Paula - 6-27-2006 at 09:16 PM

Doug, I completely agree with Lencho.
You do a great job with this board, and I thank you.
But in trying to be fair to Pilar, you have allowed her to offend and malign long time members both professionally and personally.
I hope that if this thread continues you will let the chips fall where they may. The senior members can hold their own, and this woman deserves no aid. Locking the thread is certainly a reasonable option.

Pilar2006 - 6-27-2006 at 09:18 PM

Bruce -
I just reviewed your property like Bob & Susan did mine. The big difference is I didn't use untrue, half true or self serving statements.

I used only facts.. they are all your words. I didn't change one of your words!

When you didn't stand up for me I figured it was only fair for me to do the same to you folks! If you are going to set the rules for us new folks then you better be ready to live by them or boot out anyone who don't kiss your feet.

David K - 6-27-2006 at 09:25 PM

Any thread that requires Doug to use his precious time to edit out things that are not allowed, like personal attacks, etc. should go. Go to 'off topic' maybe, but off the 'Baja' forums.

Doug provides Baja Nomad for FREE and he shouldn't have to baby sit us if we can't be nice to each other.

If you don't have anything nice to say, then turn on your TV!

Anything posted in the classified ads section, like this thread started out as has nothing to do with an opinion that needs to be argued. Something is for sale, if you don't want to buy it then move on... Responces to ads should be limited to questions about the item for sale IF you are interested in it...

Again, this forum is called: Baja Real Estate Available

It is not a discussion forum. Is it really that hard to understand?

I know, I know... b'tching about what others do is fun for some of you, but it all should be deleted or moved off an ads forum, IMHO. ;)

[Edited on 6-28-2006 by David K]

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