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Young kids work the harvests of Baja California

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Baja Bernie - 3-9-2007 at 05:03 PM

Don't even use the same finger for the 'a' and the 'e' so I have not excuse.

Skeet/Loreto - 3-9-2007 at 05:05 PM

Dennis: Let me try to explain in my ole Cowboy way.

Your words indicate a closed Mind!

It seems to be saying"This is the cause of the Problem , This is to blame and anyone who does not see it my way is Wrong!

Could you even imagine that someone who is completely opposite to your Ideas could might actually have a Valid Point????

Leave the Kids alone. Let them Work, Learn, make mistakes, have success with out you telling them your Opinion that the Stores are ripping them off.

You are beginning to sound like Pat Robertson and Jerry Farwell.

Skeet

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 05:08 PM

Skeet ----

Yeah........... I see your point with an open mind and completely understand it. I even appreciate that you would take the time to convey it.

I just don't agree with you.

MrsFDT - 3-9-2007 at 05:20 PM

:wow:

Wow, Garsh.... Shucks :dudette:

Thank you. Ill have some splainin to do when ftd reads that.....

I think it's wonderful to see the flow of passion and "intelligent" articulate conversation. After all what would life be if we all harbored the same opinions?

We dont,...... therefore there is occational clash. Dont you think clash has such a lovely color? So red, and passionate."dont get any on me, though" Clash can sometimes cause side affects and may occationally stain.

It doesnt really matter who thinks what or if we agree or not. It just is...... from whomevers' perspective. Sometimes we convince ,somtimes we are convinced and sometimes there is red.. Man, I love that color... matches my insides.

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 05:27 PM

What are you talking about?

David K - 3-9-2007 at 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
What are you talking about?

She is responding to what Bernie had to say about her, a few posts up.

Using the 'quote' feature (like I did here) will help make clear which Nomad one is responding to in a thread like this.

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 05:35 PM

How do you use that feature? Jeezo, there's no end to how I could annoy people if I could mix and match their comments like Lencho does.

Tell me how David, please.

Yeah! David

Baja Bernie - 3-9-2007 at 05:42 PM

Step by step on the 'quote' thing...........sometimes I get it correct but mostly it only confuses when I try to employ it.......Do you suppose I should try and tip it???? :biggrin:

"Quote" feature-------????

Barry A. - 3-9-2007 at 05:43 PM

I have never learned how to do that either, or at least I have not learned how to "edit" somebody's quote and then repost it in my response.

big Mystery!!!!

Dennis

Baja Bernie - 3-9-2007 at 06:07 PM

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The exchange of ideas has progressed in a basically positive track even though it did not really follow my beginning thread. I learned a long time ago that thinking with ‘feelings’ can be a very positive thing…………this, along with so many other ‘feeling’ things was taught to me by my Mexican friends. I am fairly sure that the majority of you have been exposed to the same approach from your years in Baja. That is what I have attempted to do here.

Guess with your last post I will have to delete this comment by me.

See it just do not work, the quote thing, for me.......

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 06:42 PM

Aw c'mon Bernie ---

If you spent as much effort on being retired as you do being literal, you would have a lot more fun.

Osprey - 3-9-2007 at 07:07 PM

Aw c'mon Dennis---

If you spent as much time and effort being constructive as you do being mean spirited and argumentive you would have a lot more fun.

David K - 3-9-2007 at 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
How do you use that feature? Jeezo, there's no end to how I could annoy people if I could mix and match their comments like Lencho does.

Tell me how David, please.

Because you said 'please'...

When you are reading a post or reply, just above the box area the text is in are some 'buttons' on the top of the box is 'edit', 'quote', and 'report'.

Press 'Quote'! (Edit allows you to change or delete anything YOU posted, and Report is to send a message to the moderators that something should be looked at or removed).

David----yeah, but-------

Barry A. - 3-9-2007 at 07:24 PM

----when you hit "quote" it quotes EVERYTHING. I see people quoting just portions of what previous posters "post". How do they do that???? :?:

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 07:25 PM

Thanks David -----

Still dont get it but I'll work on it.

David K - 3-9-2007 at 07:38 PM

Dennis... you are reading this right now... look just above and slightly to the right of these words you are reading... See the word 'quote' in a darkend button, just above where you are reading this?

When you want to quote any post in a thread, just push that button.

Barry, you can take your mouse and remove anything from the quoted post, which is in a box above where you type your responce.

[Edited on 3-10-2007 by David K]

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
Dennis... you are reading this right now... look just above and slightly to the right of these words you are reading... See the word 'quote' in a darkend button, just above where you are reading this?

When you want to quote any post in a thread, just push that button.

Barry, you can take your mouse and remove anything from the quoted post, which is in a box above where you type your responce.

[Edited on 3-10-2007 by David K]

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 07:44 PM

OK ----------

Im getting close. Thanks David

fdt - 3-9-2007 at 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
I know that I have just fallen in love with another mans wife Sorry fdt……..I just could not help my self

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Originally posted by David K
I would like to hear from a Mexican national Baja Nomad
Ferna ???

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Originally posted by DENNIS
David ---

I agree. We need the full perspective.

Originally posted by MrsFDT

As an American woman and mother, living in Tijuana, Im infronted with this issue everytime I go buy groceries.

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Originally posted by David K
Thank you Mrs. Ferna... Dennis, are you reading this?

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Yeah, I read it.

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Originally posted by fdt
She's born and raised USofA. :yes:

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Fdt -----

you are the Mexican. As for your wife, how long could a person live in Tijuana without thinking?

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Originally posted by DENNIS
I don't have a clear understanding of Mexico. Oh God, do I agree with that.

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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
I just could not help my self

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Originally posted by MrsFDT
Ill have some splainin to do when ftd reads that.....

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Originally posted by DENNIS
What are you talking about?

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Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Pretty clear to me
(Betta late than never. :rolleyes

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Originally posted by bajaguy
It seemed to me that they were bagging groceries after school

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Originally posted by lencho
Oh, oh-- looks like we may have a fact here.
--Larry

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Originally posted by lencho
I'm considering only the well-being of the snot-nosed kids.
Sacriligious to anybody with any conscience --Larry

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Originally posted by DENNIS
C'mon Larry..............

You know you twisted that out of shape.

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto

For Love
For Hate
For Safety-

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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
I just could not help my self

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Originally posted by DENNIS
You shouldn't.

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Originally posted by jerry
sold dennis some sour grapes?? :lol:

:lol

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
This is a great thread. Keep it going!!

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Originally posted by jorgie
behave

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Shut up jorgie

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Originally posted by jerry
well dennis no need for us greengo to screw it up

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Originally posted by jerry
well dennis no need for us greengo to screw it up

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Originally posted by jorgie
behave

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Shut up

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Originally posted by lencho
I think we all are making certain assumptions in this discussion
with immediate condemnation,
however, because my personal observation is that the kids seem cheerful, healthy and motivated

How am I going to tell the kids about this new soap opera :lol:

OKay David

Baja Bernie - 3-9-2007 at 08:03 PM

Got that but how do you post your comments OUTSIDE the quote box?

DENNIS - 3-9-2007 at 08:19 PM

Yeah ----- how?

Looks like fdt has it down.

David K - 3-9-2007 at 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Got that but how do you post your comments OUTSIDE the quote box?

This easy Bernie... The quoted part (in the box) is at the top of where you add your comments... Just start adding your comments below the quoted text... the words between

Quote:

and

here let me add a spaces so it doesn't make a quote box: [ quote ] and [ quote/ ]

DENNIS - 3-10-2007 at 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K

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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Got that but how do you post your comments OUTSIDE the quote box?

This easy Bernie... The quoted part (in the box) is at the top of where you add your comments... Just start adding your comments below the quoted text... the words between

Quote:

and

here let me add a spaces so it doesn't make a quote box: [ quote ] and [ quote/ ]

Like this?

David K - 3-10-2007 at 09:33 AM

Dennis: YOU DID IT!!! :yes:

DENNIS - 3-10-2007 at 11:59 AM

David ---

Yeah, thanks a lot. That was a big challenge for me. Hope Bernie and Barry got it as well. Thanks again.

DENNIS - 3-10-2007 at 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Dennis: YOU DID IT!!! :yes:

This is a practice run.

Barry A. - 3-10-2007 at 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

Hope Bernie and Barry got it as well.

Yes, Dennis, I think I do have it now. We will see. Thanks David.

DENNIS - 3-10-2007 at 12:56 PM

Barry ---

Just like we've been doing it all our lives. I knew it had to be simple.

David K - 3-10-2007 at 02:07 PM

Welcome to the 21st Century guys! :biggrin:

DENNIS - 3-10-2007 at 02:46 PM

Now, if I could figure out the foto thing. I suppose I should buy a digital camera for starters. Looking at a Leica D-Lux.

DENNIS - 3-10-2007 at 02:57 PM

Or maybe the V-Lux if I want to build up some credit card debt.

Lencho

Baja Bernie - 3-10-2007 at 07:10 PM

That was disgusting the first time it was posted............Why post it again?

[Edited on 3-11-2007 by Baja Bernie]

Natalie Ann - 3-10-2007 at 09:59 PM

On two recent threads, suggestive posts about girls 8 years old or younger... smacks of pedophelia. Perhaps the poster needs a time out.

Baja Bernie - 3-11-2007 at 09:10 AM

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For the very reason you state. People should have to live with what they post here, and it's all too easy to post something, later delete it and act as if it never happened. Sometimes quoting an objectionable post keeps folks honest... though in this case it looks like the mods decided to try to turn back history and have deleted both posts. I personally disagree with such moves, as it reduces the ability of the community to police itself , by hiding the dark side of folks who step over the line... Though we don't seem to do a very good job of self-policing, so perhaps censorship IS occasionally necessary in this place. Yuck.

--Larry

Larry,
I agree with all of your above statements. Thanks

Doubt that I would get into the area of throwing the Pedophile word around. Pretty heavy based on a few stupid words.

Barry A. - 3-11-2007 at 10:27 AM

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Doubt that I would get into the area of throwing the Pedophile word around. Pretty heavy based on a few stupid words.

Heavy, yes-- seems to be a witch hunt in the States lately. I suspect due to the priest component. Or maybe that's a result rather than cause.

As to those stupid words, much as I stretch, I can't figure it; every reason I can come up with for writing something like that, feels weird. Shrug...

--Larry

"Witch Hunt" perhaps, but ANY CRIME against "kids" is unacceptable and should result in serious jail time, in my opinion ON THE FIRST OFFENSE!!!!!!

David K - 3-11-2007 at 10:29 AM

Sometimes things are posted in the 'heat of the moment', since moderators can't be here 24/7 to watch us (nor should be), people should erase heated or stupid comments.

This should be a happy place and the sooner a negative comment about somebody is removed, the better.... Why keep the hate?

Now, let's talk about BAJA!!!

Barry A. - 3-11-2007 at 11:03 AM

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Yeah, we know how effective prison is as a long-term solution.

How about sending them to Iraq, segregated into a special division which receives intensive psycological councilling?

--Larry

Lecho----Leave them in jail-----I am willing to------it is a price we have to pay to keep them "off the street"-----I don't believe they can be cured.

Baja Bernie - 3-11-2007 at 12:24 PM

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Lecho----Leave them in jail-----I am willing to------it is a price we have to pay to keep them "off the street"-----I don't believe they can be cured.

Barry A

I agree and I don't believe ( I know) they cannot be cured.......BUT................I still stand by my quote below

"Doubt that I would get into the area of throwing the Pedophile word around. Pretty heavy based on a few stupid words."
Bernie

Barry A. - 3-11-2007 at 12:41 PM

Bernie------after revisiting this, you are right------I must admit that I too, like Lecho, was puzzled by the comments------but to make that "leap" to petophile???? That probably is a bit much.

I will back away, and let this "thread" get back on track.

Natalie Ann - 3-11-2007 at 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
I still stand by my quote below

"Doubt that I would get into the area of throwing the Pedophile word around. Pretty heavy based on a few stupid words."
Bernie

I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
The End.

Nena

Barry A. - 3-11-2007 at 12:49 PM

The "emotion" that Nena displays here I agree with. But to make that enormous "leap" to pedophile from a few words, no matter how bazaar, seems to me to be a bit much.

We really have no idea-----------------do we?

therefore, seems inappropriate, but we all sure know where some of us stand on this issue, don't we? :light:

Bajafun777 - 3-11-2007 at 02:04 PM

Look Mexico has a ways to go on getting all kids into a school setting and keeping them there. We have the same problem about kids not going to school but just not on such a big scale. We keep making more laws and services to families to keep them in school. Mexico tries to do this with DIF which is similar to our Department of Social Services here in California. Mexico kids that miss school do so out of the necessity to eat remember the need to ge back to the basics. Unfortunately, most of these parents are also uneducated and trying to make the basics happen to feed the entire family. The U.S. got out of that old deal of haviing a lot of kids to work the farm or streets do whatever job was there to bring in the money. Baja will keep getting more kids educated as their economy gets better and things are happening in Baja. I really like what David K said focus on why we all want to be down in Mexico every chance we get. Kids are Kids no matter what side of the border they are and it takes an economy that lets their parents not be forced to use the kids to feed the kids. Later----Bajafun777

bancoduo - 3-11-2007 at 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Bajafun777
Look Mexico has a ways to go on getting all kids into a school setting and keeping them there. We have the same problem about kids not going to school but just not on such a big scale. We keep making more laws and services to families to keep them in school. Mexico tries to do this with DIF which is similar to our Department of Social Services here in California. Mexico kids that miss school do so out of the necessity to eat remember the need to ge back to the basics. Unfortunately, most of these parents are also uneducated and trying to make the basics happen to feed the entire family. The U.S. got out of that old deal of haviing a lot of kids to work the farm or streets do whatever job was there to bring in the money. Baja will keep getting more kids educated as their economy gets better and things are happening in Baja. I really like what David K said focus on why we all want to be down in Mexico every chance we get. Kids are Kids no matter what side of the border they are and it takes an economy that lets their parents not be forced to use the kids to feed the kids. Later----Bajafun777

Mexico will be going nowhere as long as it has to deal with high birth-rates and over-population. Too much "MACHISMO" :no:

Barry A. - 3-11-2007 at 05:22 PM

Lecho-----Yep!!!

------but when it comes to any arguement from now on, I always win because I have 4 more "posts" than you, and are a stronger "super Nomad". :lol:

Es Verdad??

fdt - 3-11-2007 at 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Lecho-----Yep!!!

------but when it comes to any arguement from now on, I always win because I have 4 more "posts" than you, and are a stronger "super Nomad". :lol:

Es Verdad??

And you are to both protect me as a young one from the clan since I have less than half your posts.

Barry A. - 3-11-2007 at 07:33 PM

-----ftd----

I will protect you--------from any lecherous women out there-------just let me know which ones are bothering you, and I will respond and distract them----------that is what any good senior NOMAD would do, I am sure.

And I think I can speak for Lencho on this one, also.

------and, we work undercover, so no one will "know".

Do not dispair, young'un--------------we are ready!!!!!!!!!! and willing!!!!

Waaaaaa Hooooooo!!!!!!! and ooooooh Yahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

(my God, I am sick)

Fin?

Baja Bernie - 3-12-2007 at 08:32 AM

I just went back and reviewed this post (by me) that started out with a concern with an eight year old child being killed by a farm tractor.

Almost immediately it changed directions and became a rant about tips and grocery stores in Baja.

From there it made a couple of figure eights, veered one-eighty (for a second) back to concern for kids laboring on a farm, then it made several left turns, and a right or two. Then it really hit a low spot with a disgusting suggestion—thankfully it was not well received at all. Then a word, about the hottest one in the English language (at this point in time), was tossed into the mix.

Anyway, I believe that overall it turned out to be a most interesting post and I think that it has set a ‘record’ for the most deviations off topic.

For my money a prize should be presented to Mrs. fdt for her ability to hit several nails directly on the head with one slam of the hammer.

Oh! Yes, the Constitution does say that you may not hire kids under 14 and that I believe it why they only receive tips.

I still feel strongly that Mexican law should be utilized to put those folks in prison who hire kids under 14 to work, particularly in such dangerous areas such as farming—never heard of a kid bagging groceries kicking the bucket.

I also 'know' that people who sexually abuse children should be done away with because they are beyond curing or caring!!!! But only after they are found guilty in a court of law.

My diez pesos!

Wink and nod

Dave - 3-12-2007 at 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Oh! Yes, the Constitution does say that you may not hire kids under 14 and that I believe it why they only receive tips...

For my money a prize should be presented to Mrs. fdt for her ability to hit several nails directly on the head with one slam of the hammer.

I agree :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by Mrs. FDT

I am glad that I live in a place where the society is not blinded and bogged by petty rules. Rules that in some places have a citizen so strapped down he doesnt even have the freedom to build what he likes on his own property. (HOA, but again thats another story)

I would encourage my son to bag groceries for tips only and thank the store chain for allowing me the opportunity to help train and shape my son in a real life situation, So he can be better prepared for what lies ahead in his life.

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