BajaNomad - SD plates, CA driver license

SD plates, CA driver license

Pages: 1 2

wornout - 9-11-2008 at 08:34 PM

Since we have gone from a question about SD Plates and CDL, to pollution, I think it is time to set the record straight and focus on the real problem. COWS, yes, those loving 4 legged creatures.

From this website: http://articles.latimes.com/2007/oct/15/opinion/ed-methane15

I submit the following to set the record straight:

"""All told, livestock are responsible for 18% of greenhouse-gas emissions worldwide, according to the U.N. – more than all the planes, trains and automobiles on the planet. And it’s going to get a lot worse."""

So, to stay on topic, if I take my SD cow to Baja and travel on a California Freeway in the process, will I have to get Betsy smogged?

DENNIS - 9-11-2008 at 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oxxo

Absolutely stimulating prose! The depth of vocabulary is....overwhelming.

Allow me to add those little smiley heads so we can continue to keep the fun in this game.

DENNIS - 9-11-2008 at 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wornout

So, to stay on topic, if I take my SD cow to Baja and travel on a California Freeway in the process, will I have to get Betsy smogged?

I hope not. She wouldn't like that at all. They take this big probe and jamb it way up the exhaust........well, you know.

oxxo - 9-11-2008 at 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS :spingrin:

G'nite folks.

I thought you went to bed! Turn out the lights and sleep it off.

I'll snuff out the campfire before I turn in.

DENNIS - 9-11-2008 at 09:17 PM

G'nite.

amir - 9-11-2008 at 10:28 PM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
zzzzzzzzzzzz

Hey! Who put out the campfire??? :fire:

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[edited to adjust the zees]

[Edited on 9-12-2008 by amir]

David K - 9-12-2008 at 07:55 AM

Do chickens fart?

I mean, if we make the enviros happy and stop eating cows and drinking their milk... then is switching to chicken okay with them???

Oh, and how does one 'milk a chicken'??? :?:

CaboRon - 9-12-2008 at 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by David K
Do chickens fart?

I mean, if we make the enviros happy and stop eating cows and drinking their milk... then is switching to chicken okay with them???

Oh, and how does one 'milk a chicken'??? :?:

Pretty much like you are milking this thread :lol:

DENNIS - 9-12-2008 at 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CaboRon
Pretty much like you are milking this thread :lol:

David will have to admit...That was pretty funny. :lol:

Buy Samurai !

MrBillM - 9-12-2008 at 09:22 AM

"Sez ME". The only vehicles dat me does keeps and drives in Baja Norte. No smog - No Sweat.

When I last smogged a Samurai that I was concerned about, I was surprised that it's figures were about one-quarter the allowable limits. The Smog guy said that he'd never seen a Samurai still running that didn't meet the allowances.

SO, you might be pumping crap out the tailpipe, but you have the self-satisfaction of knowing you are within the Blessed Grace of the Communist People's Republic of Californication.

Drive Legal. If not Clean.

El Jefe - 9-12-2008 at 10:21 AM

Ask a simple question.…..

It wasn’t that difficult, and thanks to those of you who provided useful insight. But now that my character has been impugned and my avatar abused, I will end my participation on this particular thread. .

But not before a final word on the folly above. Seems to me that pedantic posts like many displayed on this thread do little to improve the dialog. They do have the tendency to scare people away from posting. Happens far to often on this site. An innocent question leads to a lecture from on high. Happens far to often in America. Polarized opinions do not lead to sensible compromise.

The question was not about smog testing. However, there is no doubt that smog control laws have been very successful in reducing the high levels of pollution that we used to endure. For example, the Ontario/Riverside basin where I finished high school had horrible smog in the late 60’s. I’ll never forget gasping and hacking all through our two-a-day football practices in August. Now the skies are much clearer even though there are more cars on the roads. Good. And as a society we need to continue our efforts to live as greenly as possible. Our 100% solar powered home in BCS helps.

Testing of vehicles no doubt helped reduce smog. Perhaps testing still does help a little bit in the case of the few gross polluters on the road. But most of the improvement happening today I’ll bet is due to cleaner exhaust and mileage efficiency standards for newer cars. The old smoke belchers have long ago met their destinies in the junk yards. I haven’t had a car fail a smog test in over 25 years. And I’m quite sure our 2000 Jeep grand Cherokee would pass with flying colors. I’m just not willing to drive it on a 2000 mile round trip just to prove the point. That would be silly and wasteful. Last year the nice lady at the California DMV granted me the waiver, but stated in no uncertain terms that the next time I would have to get it smogged if I wanted to continue to register it in CA. Maybe she was blowing smoke, but I did not want to risk being out of date with my registration if I tried for another waiver and got denied. So, on to South Dakota.

Next car purchase will be in Mexico. Problem solved. Oh, and that won’t be for a while. I don’t turn over cars as frequently most folks do. That would be wasteful too. Our throw-away society is a whole different issue we could beat up on this board.

Let’s let this thread die.

oxxo - 9-12-2008 at 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Jefe
But most of the improvement happening today I’ll bet is due to cleaner exhaust and mileage efficiency standards for newer cars. The old smoke belchers have long ago met their destinies in the junk yards. I haven’t had a car fail a smog test in over 25 years. And I’m quite sure our 2000 Jeep grand Cherokee would pass with flying colors. I’m just not willing to drive it on a 2000 mile round trip just to prove the point. That would be silly and wasteful. Last year the nice lady at the California DMV granted me the waiver, but stated in no uncertain terms that the next time I would have to get it smogged if I wanted to continue to register it in CA. Maybe she was blowing smoke, but I did not want to risk being out of date with my registration if I tried for another waiver and got denied. So, on to South Dakota.

Self justification. It's a good idea for everybody else, but I shouldn't have to do it.

Quote:

Next car purchase will be in Mexico. Problem solved.

No, problem not solved. It just moves the problem to Mexico.

Yeah, let's let this thread die.

CaboRon - 9-12-2008 at 11:13 AM

Seems to be a part of the culture of Mexico ...

And god forbid we should try and change the Mexicans :lol:

?????

bajaguy - 9-12-2008 at 11:28 AM

Just wondering.........Does anyone know what type of emission control or inspection/maintenance program Mexico has in place for motor vehicles to either clean up or reduce carbon monoxide, hydrocarbon or particulate emissions from motor vehicles either country wide or in specific areas????

DENNIS - 9-12-2008 at 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bajaguy
Just wondering.........Does anyone know what type of emission control or inspection/maintenance program Mexico has in place for motor vehicles to either clean up or reduce carbon monoxide, hydrocarbon or particulate emissions from motor vehicles either country wide or in specific areas????

I have heard way back when that they had some kind of program in DF. I don't know......just what I heard. Of all places, that would be a good place to start. I've also heard that the air quality is so bad, birds can't live outside.
I've heard a lot of things I can't verify but, that won't ever keep me from giving my opinion. :tumble:

bajaguy - 9-12-2008 at 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DENNIS

I've heard a lot of things I can't verify but, that won't ever keep me from giving my opinion. :tumble:

Always welcome, Dennis!!!

DENNIS - 9-12-2008 at 11:49 AM

Thank you, Terry.

CaboRon - 9-12-2008 at 12:20 PM

Quote:

Hel*, They don't even require mufflers :lol:

Another Wrinkle to the address Q ? FYI.

MrBillM - 9-23-2008 at 01:17 PM

Picking up mail at my High Desert P.O. box, I found a (form) notice from the Postal Service that I needed to verify my registration information promptly OR my box would be closed.

Taking it in, I was told that I had to fill out a new form and provide TWO different Government-issued (Fed or State) methods of verification which showed the physical address I was claiming to rent that P.O. Box. No Utility bills, no Insurance Company cards. Only Passport, Vehicle Registration, Driver's license, etc. Looking at my latest CADL, I was surprised to note that it no longer lists the physical address, only the mailing, so I didn't have two with me. Went back today and took care of it with my Passport and registration.

When I mentioned that I'd had that box for THIRTY years (1978) and had proven my physical address before, The Postmistress (?) showed me the notice from the Postal Service requiring it of Every Box holder. No Exceptions.

It MAY be other postmasters will interpret the requirement differently, there is no question that the above is the requirement.

Interestingly, the only place on my passport that shows my Physical U.S. address is where I wrote it in on the info page, but that was OK with USPS.

gnukid - 9-23-2008 at 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CaboRon

Quote:

Hel*, They don't even require mufflers :lol:

Ron

Nearly every city in Mexico you enter has signs posted at the city edge stating mufflers required by law and also signs which say don't use gearing to slow down (because of the noise).

Por emplo:

NO FRENE CON MOTOR

CONCEDA CAMBIO DE CIERRE SU ESCAPE

NO UTILIZAR FRENO CON MOTOR

I don't know what satisfies the legal requirement, but it seems to be related to sound level.

[Edited on 9-23-2008 by gnukid]

CaboRon - 9-23-2008 at 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gnukid

Quote:

Originally posted by CaboRon

Quote:

Hel*, They don't even require mufflers :lol:

The signs mean nothing if there is no enforcement
:lol:

And I am sure the local police are not issued decible meters
:lol:

[Edited on 9-23-2008 by CaboRon]

gnukid - 9-23-2008 at 03:40 PM

Ron

There is enforcement. Any vehicle that passes the transpeninsular highway through cities will be stopped quickly if they pass making excessive noise from their exhaust.

It seems you might enjoy a little vacation and get out of the house and check out Baja!

Pero por favor viejito, no maneje cansado y si toma no maneje!

comitan - 9-23-2008 at 04:01 PM

Ron

You are very negative of law enforcement in Mexico, today there were police out pulling many people over and checking registration. This was a major force of officers.

bajaguy - 9-23-2008 at 08:32 PM

NO FRENE CON MOTOR.....in trucker talk it means no Jake brakes................

Pages: 1 2